UNDERS are hitting at 60% in MLB this year

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  • Rich Boy
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-01-09
    • 9714

    #1
    UNDERS are hitting at 60% in MLB this year
    Blindly betting unders is working well early in the season.


    Data from Covers
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    That’s rare
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82839

      #3
      Only 5% of the season has been played so far. It's a small sample.

      Could be due to the shortened spring training. Hitters are going to get hot soon.
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #4
        Originally posted by jjgold
        That’s rare
        Not really
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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #5
          The sample is still small but evidence is consistent with the growing public marketplace and the thirst for OVERs that will always be a part of the public portfolio.

          This can raise the lines a bit, and indeed we can run tests to see if they are elevated, leading to more UNDERs.

          There are other potential reasons as well, but again our sample size is not very big.

          Expect the markets to catchup.
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          • johnnyvegas13
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 05-21-15
            • 27897

            #6
            60% not really a lot and ya it will avg down
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            • OldBill
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 11-02-21
              • 6416

              #7
              depends on ball park and pitchers and wind direction also give batters a 10 mph + wind going out no matter how good the starters ERA is

              you get games like 10-9
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              • lakerboy
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-02-09
                • 94379

                #8
                It's cold
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                • hehfest
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-28-08
                  • 7934

                  #9
                  Noticing some teams using 6-7 starters out of the gate. They have fresh bullpens to start the year. And we can't blame the Russians for this too? But wait.....the Rus' are the ones that created that electronic pitcher catcher pitch selection so they don't get the signs mixed up. For example, if Johnny has short-term memory loss or just can't count that fast....he throws the wrong pitch a lot. The Russians solved this problem so blame the unders on them.
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                  • hehfest
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-28-08
                    • 7934

                    #10
                    After a really fast estimate, I think NHL totals for the year (as it is near end) are 130-140 games over the total. The strange thing is....they clearly don't really body check anymore, so why no adjustment by Vegas on these totals is beyond me. No checking = more scoring. Just what they want to draw attention to their game.

                    As a former player, and defenseman, I hit the player and let the puck go wherever it may. Now, they go for the puck only. Its just simple logic scoring would go up significantly from this.
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                    • cankid
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-22-08
                      • 7223

                      #11
                      April always seems to have decent number of unders to start the year
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                      • Itsamazing777
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-14-12
                        • 12602

                        #12
                        It's cold right now.
                        Perfectly normal
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          Always remember baseball is basically a bunch of overpaid hitters that’s can’t hit
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                          • KVB
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-29-14
                            • 74817

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            Always remember baseball is basically a bunch of overpaid hitters that’s can’t hit


                            Meanwhile the UFC is full of a bunch of underpaid hitters that can knock you the fukk out!
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              I think unders are gonna be a nice find all year pitchers are way ahead of hitters
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                              • EdV38
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 04-04-09
                                • 266

                                #16
                                If you think about it, it makes sense. Expanded rosters thanks to the shortened spring and all that roster expansion is going into relief pitchers right now. Let's see what happens after May 1.
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                                • StackinGreen
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-09-10
                                  • 12140

                                  #17
                                  Of course it'll even out, but I love unders and especially particular teams that I know are overbet from a total perspective. I'm off this week but have been on fire in bases. Let's go boys, keep it rollin'
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                                  • KVB
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 05-29-14
                                    • 74817

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by StackinGreen
                                    Of course it'll even out, but I love unders and especially particular teams that I know are overbet from a total perspective. I'm off this week but have been on fire in bases. Let's go boys, keep it rollin'
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                                    • stevenash
                                      Moderator
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 65592

                                      #19
                                      The extra inning ghost runner rule is the main reason for the unders.
                                      Took me a couple of months last season to figure that out.

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                                      • StackinGreen
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-09-10
                                        • 12140

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                        The extra inning ghost runner rule is the main reason for the unders.
                                        Took me a couple of months last season to figure that out.

                                        Yes, that silliness is still going this year, huh ... darn, seemed like I got hit last year far more times on unders (I probably bet those way more) than any bail out on overs with the stupid rule.
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                                        • KVB
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-29-14
                                          • 74817

                                          #21
                                          Stackin' I hope all is well.

                                          Good to see you around.

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                                          • Rich Boy
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 02-01-09
                                            • 9714

                                            #22
                                            Books seem to be adjusting, alot of 7.5 and 8 totals now
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                                            • Rich Boy
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 02-01-09
                                              • 9714

                                              #23
                                              Unders still dominating early
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                trends are your friends
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                                                • StackinGreen
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-09-10
                                                  • 12140

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                                  Stackin' I hope all is well.

                                                  Good to see you around.

                                                  Likewise! I'll be checkin' your posts of course. Maybe I'll see you in Vegas
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                                                  • jimminn
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-23-11
                                                    • 1176

                                                    #26
                                                    Betting never got easier . I am betting unders today and pick up the easy money. No thinking involved .
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                                                    • StackinGreen
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-09-10
                                                      • 12140

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jimminn
                                                      Betting never got easier . I am betting unders today and pick up the easy money. No thinking involved .
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                                                      • Bcatswin
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-21-10
                                                        • 13931

                                                        #28
                                                        Stack it up!
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                                                        • jimminn
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-23-11
                                                          • 1176

                                                          #29
                                                          It worked yesterday
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                                                          • StackinGreen
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 10-09-10
                                                            • 12140

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Bcatswin
                                                            Stack it up!
                                                            Yeah baby, be sure to check my MLB posts and weigh in! We'll have some fun especially if we keep winnin and I get viewpoints. I'm usually a great 1H baseball guy then man those lines get tight and it seems to get a lot harder, as is usual in the betting world.
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                                                            • KVB
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 05-29-14
                                                              • 74817

                                                              #31
                                                              Damn, I'm on OVERs in Balty/LAA and COL/DET.

                                                              Maybe we see a market shift, there are some early signs this is the case.

                                                              Then again, could be like favorites and dogs last year, two very separate, distinct longer term runs.

                                                              I'm usually ahead of the market (market results) just far enough to pick up a few losers before the winners come in and it becomes about value.

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                                                              • hehfest
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-28-08
                                                                • 7934

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by StackinGreen
                                                                Yes, that silliness is still going this year, huh ... darn, seemed like I got hit last year far more times on unders (I probably bet those way more) than any bail out on overs with the stupid rule.
                                                                Oh yeah. You (I, all of us) will lose far more unders on extra inning games then will win. 3-3 is the death nail. Total at 8 or 9. I lost one last year that was 1-1 (Upon recollection....which it may have been 2-2 with total of 8/9). Had the under and it got there in extras. They kept scoring one run and tying it. Full Tilt that night!
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                                                                • hehfest
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-28-08
                                                                  • 7934

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                                                  Damn, I'm on OVERs in Balty/LAA and COL/DET.

                                                                  Maybe we see a market shift, there are some early signs this is the case.

                                                                  Then again, could be like favorites and dogs last year, two very separate, distinct longer term runs.

                                                                  I'm usually ahead of the market (market results) just far enough to pick up a few losers before the winners come in and it becomes about value.


                                                                  The market never really shifted in the NHL this year. There were some very short periods of unders coming in for a few days then back to overs. The overs dominated all year. With 162 games, weather warming up, and hitters getting their timing......the overs will be coming.
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                                                                  • 19th Hole
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 03-22-09
                                                                    • 18953

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Playing:
                                                                    TWINS UNDER
                                                                    TIGERS UNDER
                                                                    D'Backs F5 Under
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                                                                    • KVB
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                                      • 74817

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by hehfest
                                                                      The market never really shifted in the NHL this year. There were some very short periods of unders coming in for a few days then back to overs. The overs dominated all year. With 162 games, weather warming up, and hitters getting their timing......the overs will be coming.
                                                                      Good looking out here.

                                                                      If I get a chance I'll get some metrics down.

                                                                      This is worth another thread by itself.

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