Neteller did it! Just took a way peer to peer

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  • punchmaster
    SBR Sharp
    • 09-29-05
    • 322

    #1
    Neteller did it! Just took a way peer to peer


    Just went into my account and it was now UNCERTIFIED, taking away peer to peer ability. My canadian friend was just finishing the certification process so I could transfer. Mutherfukkers!!!!!!!!!!!
  • PeterWellington
    SBR Rookie
    • 12-20-06
    • 49

    #2
    This is totally ******.
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    • azkid
      SBR Rookie
      • 01-27-07
      • 46

      #3
      everything will be ok

      I still remain optimistic. Neteller is trying to do everything in their power to help us but they are probably legitimately overwhelmed. Imagine all the thousands of people who are calling them daily and all the crap they're dealing with from the US government. If they really wanted to screw people over they never would have allowed people to withdraw money via the atm card or p2p in the first place. They also would be freezing foreigners' funds too. Don't worry, everything will be just fine. YAY!
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      • azkid
        SBR Rookie
        • 01-27-07
        • 46

        #4
        p2p gone forever

        Neteller says p2p will no longer be an option for US customers....



        Hey, no big deal! Actually this is a good thing. Rather than getting fleeced by some weirdo will will take 5% of your cash to perform the transfer (or even worse, possibly get scammed completely), you will receive all of your money without anyone taking a cut when Neteller's withdrawal options are get back online. Hey, it's for your own good. This is the greatest thing ever! Don't complain, you should be THANKING Neteller!!! Hip hip hooray! I can't wait to take out my 8K once this mess gets cleared up.
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        • TLD
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 12-10-05
          • 671

          #5
          Oh, for heaven’s sake, shut up already.
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          • JC
            SBR Sharp
            • 08-23-05
            • 481

            #6
            Assholes!

            You know it's one thing when a US based company goes over and above the call of duty to comply, but what the hell do they care?

            They should take the position that once one of our customers does a peer to peer, it's not their concern or business what happens with the money next. They could have let themselves become the monetary equivalent of those non-centralized music sharing networks that sprouted up after Napster, I think Kazaa was one of them. In effect, every foreigner would be a new node.

            Assholes!
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            • CA_Bettor06
              SBR Hustler
              • 02-03-06
              • 59

              #7
              I spoke to Neteller and they said they disabled peer to peer by Uncertifying the US accounts because too many US bettors were using it to fund gambling accounts. If the US bettors would have just stayed away from gambling sites and just take their money out then Neteller wouldn't have done this. They also said they are still having problems with EFT and check processors not wanting to process our payouts. Neteller is not using our money bargaining chip, the US Gov is somehow preventing the payouts by telling the processors it's illegal to do business with Neteller. I don't think the US Gov cares whether gamblers get their money back. They are treating us like drug addicts. If we get our money back we would just gamble it away. I'm sure they view this predicament as our punishment for engaging in online gambling. Can anyone point to any public statement by the US Gov denying that they are involved in freezing Neteller payouts? Why don't they have a press conference to address our concerns? They don't care, that's why.
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              • Bill Dozer
                www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                • 07-12-05
                • 10894

                #8
                This one hurts. I know some books were getting ready to take peer-to-peer. It looks like lawyers are calling the shots now.

                Why can't I perform Peer-to-Peer transfers anymore?
                In order to ensure that US members do not use NETELLER with the intent to gamble online, NETELLER is no longer offering its Peer-to-Peer service in the US.
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                • tblues2005
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 07-30-06
                  • 9235

                  #9
                  Don't you think that there could be a way this would work with a different company possibly. I think someone out there could do a peer to peer deal that would work. Does anyone else offer that like ATMOnline or anyone else?
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                  • Bill Dozer
                    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                    • 07-12-05
                    • 10894

                    #10
                    "If the US bettors would have just stayed away from gambling sites and just take their money out then Neteller wouldn't have done this."

                    Most people don't know anyone they can trust but could have withdrawn through a different method.

                    Anyone try to attach a non-US bank account yet?
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                    • David
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 08-11-05
                      • 875

                      #11
                      Why can't they issue US customers foreign checks?
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                      • Bill Dozer
                        www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                        • 07-12-05
                        • 10894

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JC
                        Assholes!

                        You know it's one thing when a US based company goes over and above the call of duty to comply, but what the hell do they care?

                        They should take the position that once one of our customers does a peer to peer, it's not their concern or business what happens with the money next. They could have let themselves become the monetary equivalent of those non-centralized music sharing networks that sprouted up after Napster, I think Kazaa was one of them. In effect, every foreigner would be a new node.

                        Assholes!
                        They were one more step removed from US cits gambling and still couldn't let players get out.
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                        • Dark Horse
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-14-05
                          • 13764

                          #13
                          Spineless bunch at Neteller. They're obviously acting out of fear. Why are so many people buying into fear these days?

                          Given the predominance of fear, my suggestion would be to scare the daylight out of Neteller.
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                          • CA_Bettor06
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 02-03-06
                            • 59

                            #14
                            I have a Canadian neteller account with a valid canadian address attached to a canadian checking account. But I started this process back in October, so I don't know if doing it now would raise red flags. But you really need to apply for a new Neteller account using a canadian address and phone number. You can't use an existing Neteller account and try to change the address or bank account.

                            The only way to get a Canadian checking account is to go to Canada with a passport and a credit card for ID.
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                            • David
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 08-11-05
                              • 875

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                              Anyone try to attach a non-US bank account yet?
                              They won't let you do it. All funds transfers to a bank account must match the currency of the country registered in your Neteller account. That's what they told me at least.
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                              • Bill Dozer
                                www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                • 07-12-05
                                • 10894

                                #16
                                If I had a large sum in my account I would be persistant in requesting they use my non-US account to pay me. Some players are pursuing this so we should all know more about that soon.
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                                • Scorpion
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-04-05
                                  • 7797

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by CA_Bettor06
                                  I have a Canadian neteller account with a valid canadian address attached to a canadian checking account. But I started this process back in October, so I don't know if doing it now would raise red flags. But you really need to apply for a new Neteller account using a canadian address and phone number. You can't use an existing Neteller account and try to change the address or bank account.

                                  The only way to get a Canadian checking account is to go to Canada with a passport and a credit card for ID.
                                  If you travel to canada how can you get a canadian ID or driver license?
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                                  • Scorpion
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-04-05
                                    • 7797

                                    #18
                                    When people start posting thier shit and the thread is 122 pages


                                    and they talk so openly about it neteller probably read that topic and had no choice. Its eems posters did P2P for hundreads of thousands. Poeple were actually making alot of money doing P2P for other posters and they were all transferring to poker sites

                                    fukking poker players fukked everything up
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                                    • Scorpion
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-04-05
                                      • 7797

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by CA_Bettor06
                                      I spoke to Neteller and they said they disabled peer to peer by Uncertifying the US accounts because too many US bettors were using it to fund gambling accounts. If the US bettors would have just stayed away from gambling sites and just take their money out then Neteller wouldn't have done this. .
                                      Why cant they just uncertify US accounts if they try to to a
                                      P2P? Just another step in stealing our funds by neteller
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                                      • bigloser
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 07-19-06
                                        • 787

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by JC
                                        Assholes!

                                        You know it's one thing when a US based company goes over and above the call of duty to comply, but what the hell do they care?

                                        They should take the position that once one of our customers does a peer to peer, it's not their concern or business what happens with the money next. They could have let themselves become the monetary equivalent of those non-centralized music sharing networks that sprouted up after Napster, I think Kazaa was one of them. In effect, every foreigner would be a new node.

                                        Assholes!
                                        Dont see WSEX paying
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                                        • louis
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 09-23-06
                                          • 763

                                          #21
                                          non-us bank account

                                          I am in the process of getting a non-us bank account.

                                          Neteller has told me that they can not cash out to a non-us bank account, but I am going to beg them to do it anyhow.

                                          The problem with moving to another country is that unless you actually do it, neteller could conclude you are trying to trick them and freeze your account.

                                          It is not easy to go to Canada and get official ids such as driver's licenses, unless you are willing to go there and lie to the Canadians, which is a criminal offense.
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                                          • louis
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-23-06
                                            • 763

                                            #22
                                            why can't they just send a foreign check to us???

                                            I am going to open up a non-us bank account - at a bank that neteller can do EFTs, but why should this even be necessary.

                                            Why can't they just send us a check in Euros, or in Canadian dollars???

                                            I would be more than happy to receive a check of my balance in Euros, or Can $. I'll take that check with me on my trip to open up the account.
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                                            • pags11
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-18-05
                                              • 12264

                                              #23
                                              I seriously can't believe this...
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                                              • patswin
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-05-06
                                                • 1794

                                                #24
                                                Man I feel lucky I got all of my funds out of there early this week. I feel like I dodged a bullet....
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                                                • capitalist pig
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-25-07
                                                  • 5001

                                                  #25
                                                  Well, all this sounds about right, I honestley feel they have no intention of paying anyone (US) anything at this point. Im not worrying about it anymore, just going to consider it a bad bet and move on. If by some miracle they eventually pay us, I will consider it like hitting the lottery.

                                                  On the bright side I did find a Greek Liquor seller on ebay that takes neteller, carries high $ booze from all over the world. Maybe its time to stock the bar, and just be done with it.

                                                  later
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                                                  • dickdoobie
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 02-02-07
                                                    • 1

                                                    #26
                                                    if you have a US bank account with neteller, consider your money gone. it is highly unlikely there will ever be ANY transaction between neteller and a US bank again.
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                                                    • JoshW
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 3431

                                                      #27
                                                      what can be said is bad news.
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                                                      • pags11
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-18-05
                                                        • 12264

                                                        #28
                                                        this is seriously one of the biggest rip-offs in the history of rip-offs...
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