MLB putting runners on 2nd base again

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  • Brock Landers
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 06-30-08
    • 45359

    #1
    MLB putting runners on 2nd base again
    I thought that horseshit was over.

    Ghost runners will remain in 2022.

    A major league source confirmed a report from the New York Post that MLB and the MLB Players Association have reached agreement for the 2022 season to reinstitute a runner on second base at the start of all extra innings, beginning with the 10th. While the rule has to be approved by a vote of MLB owners, it’s expected to pass.

    Red Sox manager Alex Cora said MLB canvassed managers and front offices in recent days about whether to resurrect the rule, which was not part of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement. Amidst concerns about players’ physical preparedness for the 2022 season following a compressed spring training, the runner — which has accelerated the conclusion of extra-innings games — was reinstated for next season.

    Additionally, according to the Post, teams will be able to carry expanded rosters of 28 players through May 1 in an effort to diminish early-season, workload-related injury concerns. The rosters will return to the normal 26 for the bulk of the season.

    MLB and the Players Association also agreed to a Shohei Ohtani-inspired change: In games where the starting pitcher is also the designated hitter, the player will be allowed to remain in the game as a D.H. even after he exits the contest as a pitcher. The “Shohei Rule” will be in effect for the entire five-year term of the recently negotiated CBA.
  • Orbison
    SBR MVP
    • 09-07-20
    • 4691

    #2
    apparently this will be the last season for it though

    i forget, does the rule only apply to regular season games or postseason too?
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    • Brock Landers
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 06-30-08
      • 45359

      #3
      Originally posted by Orbison
      apparently this will be the last season for it though

      i forget, does the rule only apply to regular season games or postseason too?
      Regular season only
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        What a dumb rule
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        • newton0038
          SBR MVP
          • 03-07-07
          • 2389

          #5
          Players want it in regular season to shorten the possible 5 or 6 hour games.
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          • slayer14
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 08-12-13
            • 22014

            #6
            kills a lot of under bets this rules
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            • DrunkHorseplayer
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 05-15-10
              • 7719

              #7
              Unfortunately, this decision is a no-brainer; look for it to become permanent.
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              • Da Manster!
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-13-07
                • 17720

                #8
                Originally posted by slayer14
                kills a lot of under bets this rules
                which is exactly the reason why I bet overs 90% of the time!...I crushed MLB totals last year...finished (+77 units or $7,700)...on several occasions, my picks went over because of that rule...I fukkin' love it!
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                • MinnesotaFats
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-18-10
                  • 14758

                  #9
                  7 inning DHeaders or not?
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                  • Brock Landers
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 06-30-08
                    • 45359

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                    7 inning DHeaders or not?
                    Hell no
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                    • Regul8er
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-06-07
                      • 10666

                      #11
                      Can we stop calling this the ghost runner rule!! Having a man start on 2nd is not a ghost runner. Anyone who played backyard or sandlot ball growing up knows what a ghost runner is, and this is not it.
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                      • pavyracer
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 04-12-07
                        • 82839

                        #12
                        It's a good rule. No one wants to stay up all night on a weekday for the game to finish at 3 am because they played 7 extra innings.
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                        • mtneer1212
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-22-08
                          • 4993

                          #13
                          There is no reason for a 16 inning game in July that kills teams for weeks....... I like this rule, but for regular season only.
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                          • TheMoneyShot
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 02-14-07
                            • 28672

                            #14
                            Terrible rule. It's like we must add things to shorten the game??? That's not baseball. It changes the entire rhythm of the game adding a runner on 2nd in EI.

                            I still don't agree with the Shootout in the NHL either. Play 5:00 OT and if it ends in a Tie. So be it.
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                            • Brock Landers
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 06-30-08
                              • 45359

                              #15
                              It was fine for 125 years

                              It needs to be vanquished to the nether regions forever
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                              • pavyracer
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-12-07
                                • 82839

                                #16
                                Managers don't like it. If you paid attention before this rule came in they would have the outfielders pitch because they didn't want to blow the bullpen on a long series. No one wants to see outfielders pitching in MLB.
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                                • GoBlue23
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-04-10
                                  • 1302

                                  #17
                                  Dumb
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                                  • Kermit
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                                    • 09-27-10
                                    • 32555

                                    #18
                                    I love it. Great for overs and alt overs.
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                                    • Enkhbat
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-18-11
                                      • 3145

                                      #19
                                      Good move u dont want 17, 18 innings do you
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                                      • risKingDigits
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 12-22-21
                                        • 467

                                        #20
                                        getting to second base is my lifelong goal
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                                        • thetrinity
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-25-11
                                          • 22430

                                          #21
                                          Anyone ever go to a game that lasted 15 innings? They suck. Alcohol is cutoff after the 7th anyways. You have to keep this rule with the options rule that’s in place now
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                                          • Mr KLC
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                                            • 12-19-07
                                            • 31097

                                            #22
                                            With the shortened spring training, they are probably doing this to save some potential injuries from happening due to overwork.
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                                            • thetrinity
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-25-11
                                              • 22430

                                              #23
                                              Yes the short spring training is another reason for this year. I don’t see how you can extend games essentially and then limit options on a player. They have to keep this rule around with the limit on options
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                                              • thetrinity
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-25-11
                                                • 22430

                                                #24
                                                The DH need to be 9 innings though. Glad that changed. It’s not pony league. I hate when they call games and don’t get finished before 9 innings personally.
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                                                • Kermit
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                                                  • 09-27-10
                                                  • 32555

                                                  #25
                                                  The only real issue is stats that players technically should have with a guy already starting on 2nd base.
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                                                  • Da Manster!
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-13-07
                                                    • 17720

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Kermit
                                                    I love it. Great for overs and alt overs.
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                                                    • Orbison
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-07-20
                                                      • 4691

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Kermit
                                                      The only real issue is stats that players technically should have with a guy already starting on 2nd base.
                                                      for pitchers, i'm pretty sure that runner doesn't count as en earned run. for hitters, i believe it counts as an RBI though. so i guess it favors both sides
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                                                      • Da Manster!
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 07-13-07
                                                        • 17720

                                                        #28
                                                        I'm glad with the universal DH...all DH or no DH...
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                                                        • Mike Huntertz
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 08-19-09
                                                          • 11207

                                                          #29
                                                          Some times new things are better than tradition?
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                                                          • Kermit
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                                                            • 09-27-10
                                                            • 32555

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Orbison
                                                            for pitchers, i'm pretty sure that runner doesn't count as en earned run. for hitters, i believe it counts as an RBI though. so i guess it favors both sides
                                                            That is what I meant.
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                                                            • Orbison
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-07-20
                                                              • 4691

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Kermit
                                                              That is what I meant.
                                                              i don't think that runner should count for or against any pitching or hitting stat, make it a true ghost for stats purposes
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                                                              • Wrongside
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-26-15
                                                                • 3579

                                                                #32
                                                                Books love it.
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                                                                • DrunkHorseplayer
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 05-15-10
                                                                  • 7719

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Orbison
                                                                  i don't think that runner should count for or against any pitching or hitting stat, make it a true ghost for stats purposes
                                                                  It doesn't count against a pitcher's ERA.
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                                                                  • Orbison
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-07-20
                                                                    • 4691

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                                                    It doesn't count against a pitcher's ERA.
                                                                    i know it doesn't, i'm saying hitters shouldn't benefit from it though
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