Really, isn't it time to approach legal authorities concerning these modern day Books

[ABEHONEST]

I think this is worthy of it's own thread:
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This: Why, after a legit 40 minutes of CB, do we have to go further with "your wagers?"
Just another damn edge the Book has on the typical [sucker] gambler.
Me, I am normally a dog and under bettor so you can see what any OT does for me. Killed many parlays and straight wagers, too.

Remember the old days? 70 years ago, it seems, where 5ct lines could be found? Also, we were able to see some 8ct lines, too. So what the %$*())$##@@ happened?
Who governs these greedy Books, who, this year, have fattened up their purses so bulging, they are liable to explode sky-high and kill off half their employees.

And the other, which doesn't relate to all gamblers: Charging you for being a [losing ] member of their gambling society. Meaning, charges for just about everything they offer you. And almost all, still give you those killer 10-cents lines to play with. And it's an insult to attempt to use a -15 cent-line, then try to charge you an additional 15 cents for another 1/2 point. Wow! Crazy and unbelievable!

It's past time to call the Govenor, or, who the hell it was that turned these vicious Books onto our feeble, the many, half-hooked or fully-hooked, sports gamblers.

We, the brave and daring, only have so many to compete with against these unscrupled, and seemingly, unrestricted Books?

We need some %#$@&*()& gambling adjustments, asap. Now, who do we approach to see that this gets done?

[teecee]

I played 3 overs the other day and every damn one went to OT. What are the odds of that happening again? Very lucky to say the least.

[d2bets]

I think this is worthy of it's own thread:
________________________________________ ________________________________________ ____________

This: Why, after a legit 40 minutes of CB, do we have to go further with "your wagers?"
Just another damn edge the Book has on the typical [sucker] gambler.
Me, I am normally a dog and under bettor so you can see what any OT does for me. Killed many parlays and straight wagers, too.

Remember the old days? 70 years ago, it seems, where 5ct lines could be found? Also, we were able to see some 8ct lines, too. So what the %$*())$##@@ happened?
Who governs these greedy Books, who, this year, have fattened up their purses so bulging, they are liable to explode sky-high and kill off half their employees.

And the other, which doesn't relate to all gamblers: Charging you for being a [losing ] member of their gambling society. Meaning, charges for just about everything they offer you. And almost all, still give you those killer 10-cents lines to play with. And it's an insult to attempt to use a -15 cent-line, then try to charge you an additional 15 cents for another 1/2 point. Wow! Crazy and unbelievable!

It's past time to call the Govenor, or, who the hell it was that turned these vicious Books onto our feeble, the many, half-hooked or fully-hooked, sports gamblers.

We, the brave and daring, only have so many to compete with against these unscrupled, and seemingly, unrestricted Books?

We need some %#$@&*()& gambling adjustments, asap. Now, who do we approach to see that this gets done?

What specifically is your gripe? What are you asking to happen? Demand 5 cent lines? C'mon man.

[gauchojake]

I just read Abe's posts in the voice of Andy Rooney or Abe Simpson and it usually makes more sense.

[ABEHONEST]

I played 3 overs the other day and every damn one went to OT. What are the odds of that happening again? Very lucky to say the least.

Yes, I know. Overtimes by the galore these days.

[jjgold]

I think eventually some of the USA juice should get tighter juice because people are gonna start to become smart and look elsewhere maybe far away places

[ABEHONEST]

What specifically is your gripe? What are you asking to happen? Demand 5 cent lines? C'mon man.

I thought I stated pretty darn clear? If you are a regular player, having fun and not losing regularly [like most], then you may be one with no gripes?
I am speaking for the majority, not the minority.

The games are too tough, the lines are too tough, the odds are too tough.
The expensives in order to play, are normally too tough.

*And add again: That long free-throw worth a fat 3 points, on average, is a Bookie's dream come true.
I call it Mr. Luck and he is deadly.
You cannot handicap luck.

[stevenash]

I just read Abe's posts in the voice of Andy Rooney or Abe Simpson and it usually makes more sense.

"Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville, I needed a new heel for my shoe.

[ABEHONEST]

Nash, I'm just happy to see you cashing in winners, routinely.

[d2bets]

I thought I stated pretty darn clear? If you are a regular player, having fun and not losing regularly [like most], then you may be one with no gripes?
I am speaking for the majority, not the minority.

The games are too tough, the lines are too tough, the odds are too tough.
The expensives in order to play, are normally too tough.

*And add again: That long free-throw worth a fat 3 points, on average, is a Bookie's dream come true.
I call it Mr. Luck and he is deadly.
You cannot handicap luck.

If you think it's too tough, look inward. Actually, it's easier than ever. The tough part is player limiting. That's the gripe. If we can get regulators to disallow specific player limiting, then we're cooking.

[stevenash]

^@Abe
Yeah, but the books always get it back eventually.

Cute kid by the way.
Yours?

[ABEHONEST]

^@Abe
Yeah, but the books always get it back eventually.

Cute kid by the way.
Yours?

Yes, 75 years ago and he's smarter than a whip and learned to belly laugh at 6 days old.
I confess, it's actually my baby photo but everything else is 100% true.

Good luck, Nash, but tell me, how do you keep your head above water?
I used to know this, but now, I seem to have forgotten.

[ABEHONEST]

If you think it's too tough, look inward. Actually, it's easier than ever. The tough part is player limiting. That's the gripe. If we can get regulators to disallow specific player limiting, then we're cooking.

Thanks for someone who seems not to love the Books Of Today.

[stevenash]

^

Baseball, spot play dogs.

All other sports, simple money management, press when up, flat bet when on a cooler.

[ABEHONEST]

I think eventually some of the USA juice should get tighter juice because people are gonna start to become smart and look elsewhere maybe far away places

JJ, I am sure a lot of so-called smart people have went broke trying too win at sports gambling [basketball-football], the past few years. Especiallly, the gauntlet these Books have you running through today.
I don't see your point?
The players need more lean to chew on, not more bone to suckle on. Enough.

[d2bets]

^

Baseball, spot play dogs.

All other sports, simple money management, press when up, flat bet when on a cooler.

Huh? Silly. That's not how it works. Bet more when you have more edge, bet less with less edge. Or just bet max when you have any edge if your bankroll is big enough. Heater and cooler is imaginary.

[ABEHONEST]

^

Baseball, spot play dogs.

All other sports, simple money management, press when up, flat bet when on a cooler.

Sound tips, but, my opinion is, you must be very, very near to being a dedicated professional--bet JJ would agree-- to have any chance to win at sports gamblng today. Sitting behind a desk all day or having a large family, forget it.

I mean, spending gobs of study time, and especially, when seeking the very best point-line so to enhance your chances to win.
I am talkng hours and hours of dedication each day, or the very day you want to inter the gambling fray.

There is no other way! If there is, I don't even want to know because it's too late to retrain my brain.

My very good guess, guys like BG, for one, still, has not learned that there is no easy way [period!]?

[stevenash]

Huh? Silly. That's not how it works. Bet more when you have more edge, bet less with less edge. Or just bet max when you have any edge if your bankroll is big enough. Heater and cooler is imaginary.

Bettors tend to go on tilt when on a cooler, a losing streak clouds their judgement.
When I'm on a cooler, I take a breath, figure out what's going wrong, while doing so I go back to basics.

That's just me.
I do understand what you are saying.

[BuckyOne]

If you are paying high juice / it is your own fault. There is a reason some people have 20 outs. Pull the money out of your pocket and post it up. Somebody, that is being tight and has $200 in an app for that state is going to get screwed on juice and numbers.

[gauchojake]

I count juice in bees Nasher

[d2bets]

If you are paying high juice / it is your own fault. There is a reason some people have 20 outs. Pull the money out of your pocket and post it up. Somebody, that is being tight and has $200 in an app for that state is going to get screwed on juice and numbers.

Some states have lots of "apps". Can't figure out why anyone would not join them all, aside from being broke.

[ABEHONEST]

I've tried this before, joining a state Book, but seems the complications can drive you nuts? One question, though: Are they too similar to the offshores as to what they offer?
10 cents lines and lines all nearly the same?

I'll have to look again and see for myself but I do like other people's opinions first.

What are 2 major reason to go with them? I, especially, enjoy a better percentage chance of winning. Is that possible, or, do they offer the same-o-same-o?

[Pete0]

I think eventually some of the USA juice should get tighter juice because people are gonna start to become smart and look elsewhere maybe far away places

Coach, whats a good 2nd offshore out among these? Prefer Crypto btw

Betonline
BetUS
Heritage
Bovada

Opinions?

[stevenash]

Coach, whats a good 2nd offshore out among these? Prefer Crypto btw

Betonline
BetUS
Heritage
Bovada

Opinions?

I'm not JJ Pete, but Heritage is my go book.
I can't bet UConn here, so I go offshore to Heritage for my UConn action.

[d2bets]

I've tried this before, joining a state Book, but seems the complications can drive you nuts? One question, though: Are they too similar to the offshores as to what they offer?
10 cents lines and lines all nearly the same?

I'll have to look again and see for myself but I do like other people's opinions first.

What are 2 major reason to go with them? I, especially, enjoy a better percentage chance of winning. Is that possible, or, do they offer the same-o-same-o?

No break on juice, but no, most of it is not same-o same-o.

[OldBill]

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