I can't use my Sportsbook Mobile App in Las Vegas?

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  • Jeff247
    SBR Rookie
    • 01-16-22
    • 6

    #1
    I can't use my Sportsbook Mobile App in Las Vegas?
    I live in New York and a registered user of DraftKings, Fanduel and Caesars mobile Sportsbook App. I have used all 3 since legalized/allowed in NY starting Feb 8, 2022.

    So why can't I use these same 3 apps when I visit Las Vegas where it's legal? I'm a registered user with deposits in all three and with GPS they know where I am when placing bets. So what's the problem? I know there are states where it's not allowed.

    Any good explanation?

    Thank you.
  • teacher10
    SBR MVP
    • 08-28-18
    • 1821

    #2
    Funny thing. I’m at EWR waiting for my flight to Vegas. No reason why it’s not allowed but I had the same thing happen to me in October with my NJ BetMGM account and I wasn’t able to bet in Vegas. I actually prefer ticket counter so I have a hard copy as a souvenir.
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    • toughone
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-01-13
      • 715

      #3
      different gaming control boards...just like you cant use it in pennsylvania and jersey..
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      • Jeff247
        SBR Rookie
        • 01-16-22
        • 6

        #4
        Thanks for the reply. I can squander away my hard earned money by phone in NY but have to stand in line to do it in Vegas? Some lobby group or corrupt politicians must be behind it! I hate waiting in lines and afraid of losing a hard copy! If I wake up with a bet I want to place it and not get dressed and drive into town!! Thanks for your reply.
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        • hankcream
          SBR MVP
          • 06-30-10
          • 2048

          #5
          They have separate apps in Nevada, just go to the app store and download the Caesers Nevada app, you should be able to transfer funds between them.
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          • Renegades
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-12-11
            • 5290

            #6
            Originally posted by hankcream
            They have separate apps in Nevada, just go to the app store and download the Caesers Nevada app, you should be able to transfer funds between them.
            Fanduel transfers the funds automatically when switching states as long as you are in a state where its legal
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            • Brock Landers
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 06-30-08
              • 45359

              #7
              That's why I'll never leave offshore

              Never need to worry about the state I'm in
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              • pilebuck13
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-15-15
                • 17918

                #8
                Originally posted by Jeff247
                Thanks for the reply. I can squander away my hard earned money by phone in NY but have to stand in line to do it in Vegas? Some lobby group or corrupt politicians must be behind it! I hate waiting in lines and afraid of losing a hard copy! If I wake up with a bet I want to place it and not get dressed and drive into town!! Thanks for your reply.
                Yah major pain I went to the book yesterday way after my first half bet was over but they wouldn’t cash my ticket tell full game was over lol….. bunch of clowns I understand the reasoning behind it. Get people to hang around the casino longer
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                • stackz125
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-03-16
                  • 6191

                  #9
                  You can create a mobile account for vegas casinos.

                  So if you bet at thr westgate they have an app that you can bet from and cash out from at the counter.
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                  • Regul8er
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-06-07
                    • 10666

                    #10
                    I keep seeing people continuing to advocate for offshore. Its a dying breed, a dinosaur if you will. Collect your money from offshore while you can before its too late. You have been warned.
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                    • teacher10
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-28-18
                      • 1821

                      #11
                      Are you sure you’re able to transfer money from one state to another state?
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                      • RockBottom
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-03-08
                        • 1448

                        #12
                        Originally posted by teacher10
                        Are you sure you’re able to transfer money from one state to another state?
                        You don't have to transfer money. The location services will show if youre in a legal state or not. If you want to use a VPN, it will not allow you to.
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                        • Brock Landers
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 06-30-08
                          • 45359

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Regul8er
                          I keep seeing people continuing to advocate for offshore. Its a dying breed, a dinosaur if you will. Collect your money from offshore while you can before its too late. You have been warned.
                          LOL

                          Ok
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            You always need one offshore account
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                            • stevenash
                              Moderator
                              • 01-17-11
                              • 65598

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jjgold
                              You always need one offshore account
                              Yep, I have to leave the state if I want to bet UConn with a US book.
                              And UConn is good again.
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                              • Jeff247
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 01-16-22
                                • 6

                                #16
                                I spoke to the Sportsbook at Wynn yesterday and they said you either have to take your money with you or use it next time you're in Vegas. I'll be able to get a Wynn app and use it while in Vegas but that's the only place. That's true with all the Vegas books.
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                                • Jeff247
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 01-16-22
                                  • 6

                                  #17
                                  I'll be in Vegas for March Madness and will have to get a mobile app for use only in Vegas. That's true off all the books. I called the Wynn book and they said you have to take you funds with you when you leave or wait til you return to Vegas to use.

                                  I guess that's what I'll have to do. I use BetMGM, DraftKings, Caesars and FanDuel here in upstate NY. I'll narrow down to 2 soon but now using all the promotions each had to offer since mobile betting became available in NY on Feb 8. I'm spoiled by the apps. Had to drive 10 miles to the closest DraftKings at a casino to bet before this. Glad that's over with.
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65598

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Jeff247
                                    I'll be in Vegas for March Madness and will have to get a mobile app for use only in Vegas. That's true off all the books. I called the Wynn book and they said you have to take you funds with you when you leave or wait til you return to Vegas to use.

                                    I guess that's what I'll have to do. I use BetMGM, DraftKings, Caesars and FanDuel here in upstate NY. I'll narrow down to 2 soon but now using all the promotions each had to offer since mobile betting became available in NY on Feb 8. I'm spoiled by the apps. Had to drive 10 miles to the closest DraftKings at a casino to bet before this. Glad that's over with.
                                    Have fun, it'll be a mob scene.
                                    10 miles is nothing, I have to drive 45 minutes to Mohegan Sun.
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                                    • sweethook
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-21-07
                                      • 12667

                                      #19
                                      you need show a light bill ..
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                                      • Regul8er
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-06-07
                                        • 10666

                                        #20
                                        Offshore was a necessity in the past as we all know. Now we have multiple books in tons of states all over this country, locals all over the place. I get better numbers in the US these days then I could ever dream about getting offshore. Besides, I want my money where its safe, right here! Screw paying deposit fees, withdraw fees, waiting days or weeks to get paid. I want to get paid when I make a request, and that’s exactly what I get here.
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                                        • ABEHONEST
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-27-09
                                          • 9470

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Regul8er
                                          Offshore was a necessity in the past as we all know. Now we have multiple books in tons of states all over this country, locals all over the place. I get better numbers in the US these days then I could ever dream about getting offshore. Besides, I want my money where its safe, right here! Screw paying deposit fees, withdraw fees, waiting days or weeks to get paid. I want to get paid when I make a request, and that’s exactly what I get here.
                                          No deposit or withdrawal fees? Where have I been sleeping?
                                          And yes, you may have a strong point about foreign Books becoming too foreign someday?
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                                          • Brock Landers
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 06-30-08
                                            • 45359

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Regul8er
                                            Offshore was a necessity in the past as we all know. Now we have multiple books in tons of states all over this country, locals all over the place. I get better numbers in the US these days then I could ever dream about getting offshore. Besides, I want my money where its safe, right here! Screw paying deposit fees, withdraw fees, waiting days or weeks to get paid. I want to get paid when I make a request, and that’s exactly what I get here.
                                            You're not beating offshore in 90% of the cases.

                                            No fees to deposit or withdraw at BETONLINE, payment within minutes
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                                            • DontTailMe
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-24-19
                                              • 2897

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Regul8er
                                              Offshore was a necessity in the past as we all know. Now we have multiple books in tons of states all over this country, locals all over the place. I get better numbers in the US these days then I could ever dream about getting offshore. Besides, I want my money where its safe, right here! Screw paying deposit fees, withdraw fees, waiting days or weeks to get paid. I want to get paid when I make a request, and that’s exactly what I get here.
                                              There are at least a dozen offshore sportsbooks where this is not a problem and where they beat U.S. regulated books in speed of payment. It's not 2014 anymore.
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                                              • sackofdoorknobs
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 02-14-18
                                                • 11

                                                #24
                                                You need offshore if you want to bet on anything somewhat unconventional/controversial. Can't bet on election results outside of the Iowa model, for example, unless you do it offshore. Also, some of the more esoteric lines/markets, particularly 3rd world lower league or youth soccer, you pretty much can't find except offshore. I realize that most people are not betting Algerian 2nd tier U18 moneylines but for those of us who do, it's really offshore or nothing.

                                                As for interoperability, the Nevada Gaming Board at least is making a lot of efforts in getting public workshops set up to amend the current regulations, but the problem is that they've rescheduled the same session like 4-5 times already due to COVID and even the last time when they passed the amendment was during the height of Omicron. But there's another problem: Nevada currently requires the digital infrastructure - namely the hosting services - of the system to be hosted in Nevada and be strictly regulated in a kafkaesque and onerous manner. There are a lot of datacenters here in Vegas of course, but none of the major operators - AWS or Google or MS Azure - maintain most of their infrastructure here. Google had been trying to expand but ran right into the start of COVID and even if a gaming operator happens to already use GC, not only would they still need to migrate their infrastructure onto the west-4 region (not the cheapest one, that's for sure), and then the gaming commission is supposed to document and keep tabs on employees and actual physical infrastructure of the datacenter itself, and also force the casinos to run parallel sets of infrastructure if they already have something set up, which every large provider does. The regulations are really about having in-house infrastructure for casinos but on the scale we're talking about now, it'll either be prohibitively expensive or implemented in a hilariously shoddy way on the cheap. So they're working on that part of the regulations, but since we're addressing issues that were first scheduled to be worked on 2 years ago, it's really not clear as to when Nevada will be able to get in line with the rest of the country. Feel free to follow the snail-like pace of regulatory reform (and submit public comments, it's the primary way the public can influence regulatory action on any level, federal or state) at https://gaming.nv.gov/index.aspx?page=16

                                                tl;dr: if you're thinking about going to law school, don't go into administrative law, it's bdsm without any of the fun.
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                                                • big joe 1212
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 06-01-08
                                                  • 19380

                                                  #25
                                                  I bet offshore even when I’m in vegas. Can’t beat the benefits of offshore
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                                                  • themike78
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-01-13
                                                    • 4873

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Regul8er
                                                    I keep seeing people continuing to advocate for offshore. Its a dying breed, a dinosaur if you will. Collect your money from offshore while you can before its too late. You have been warned.
                                                    Lol. Offshore is only getting bigger. U.S books are all garbage with no customer service. Taxes have to be paid as well. Why the fuk would anybody use them? What's the point exactly?
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                                                    • themike78
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-01-13
                                                      • 4873

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Regul8er
                                                      Offshore was a necessity in the past as we all know. Now we have multiple books in tons of states all over this country, locals all over the place. I get better numbers in the US these days then I could ever dream about getting offshore. Besides, I want my money where its safe, right here! Screw paying deposit fees, withdraw fees, waiting days or weeks to get paid. I want to get paid when I make a request, and that’s exactly what I get here.
                                                      So you would rather pay more in taxes if you win? Deposit fees? Where? Withdraw fees? Where? Days or weeks to get paid? I get paid within 10 minutes at the offshore books I play at.
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                                                      • themike78
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-01-13
                                                        • 4873

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DontTailMe
                                                        There are at least a dozen offshore sportsbooks where this is not a problem and where they beat U.S. regulated books in speed of payment. It's not 2014 anymore.
                                                        Exactly. They used to have fees 10 years ago when they were using the old money transfer places. Now with bitcoin nobody really charges any fees to cash out anymore.
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                                                        • Fishhead
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 08-11-05
                                                          • 40179

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by themike78
                                                          Lol. Offshore is only getting bigger. U.S books are all garbage with no customer service. Taxes have to be paid as well. Why the fuk would anybody use them? What's the point exactly?
                                                          CIRCA and WILLIAM HILL in Nevada are EXCELLENT
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                                                          • hustledouble
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 11-26-13
                                                            • 189

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by sackofdoorknobs
                                                            You need offshore if you want to bet on anything somewhat unconventional/controversial. Can't bet on election results outside of the Iowa model, for example, unless you do it offshore.
                                                            Exchange markets for politics available everywhere in US, even before end of PASPA.
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