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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    USA Books Biggest strengths
    Live betting
    Parlays
    Lots of betting options
    Early lines


    None of that is really conducive to winning though
  • flyingillini
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 41219

    #2
    They don’t compare to Marathon Bet or Pinnacle.
    המוסד‎
    המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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    • d2bets
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 08-10-05
      • 39995

      #3
      Originally posted by jjgold
      Live betting
      Parlays
      Lots of betting options
      Early lines


      None of that is really conducive to winning though
      Lots of options is definitely conducive to winning for the discerning. And it's conducive to losing for the impulsive idiots. They have to post lines for everything under the sun and the more they post the more prone they are to "error". The bettor can pass over 99% of the crap and hone in on the 1% that is good.
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      • Brock Landers
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 06-30-08
        • 45359

        #4
        None of which you can't find offshore

        BETONLINE for example
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        • nick1976
          SBR High Roller
          • 01-22-22
          • 153

          #5
          Originally posted by jjgold
          Live betting
          Parlays
          Lots of betting options
          Early lines


          None of that is really conducive to winning though
          +1 limits
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            USA books book to book have more bet offers than offshore and lines up early
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            • Eddy Munny
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-13-13
              • 15768

              #7
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              • pharm_cat
                SBR Rookie
                • 06-19-13
                • 7

                #8
                You are getting paid in a timely manner no hoops to jump through
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                • captrobey
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 09-02-10
                  • 34381

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pharm_cat
                  You are getting paid in a timely manner no hoops to jump through
                  That is the biggest thing and nice if i go in casino to sit somewhere in AC and watch a game with a drink. But offshore i have never had to pay taxes and bonuses way better. Bonuses in NJ suck small ones often but not worth it to me. First deposit is best one. I get $10 bonus on a $30 deposit or deposit $88 get $18 garbage like that mostly. YW and BP have normally 40% cash or 70% FP .Justbet has 100% FP here and there. Jazz is 50% cash. GT is off and on sometimes i have seen up to 150% . And they all pay.
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                  • d2bets
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 39995

                    #10
                    Originally posted by nick1976
                    +1 limits
                    What do you mean?

                    Limits is certainly not an advantage of USA books. USA books are generally much tougher with limiting and have lower limits than offshores.
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                    • DontTailMe
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-24-19
                      • 2897

                      #11
                      Originally posted by captrobey
                      That is the biggest thing and nice if i go in casino to sit somewhere in AC and watch a game with a drink. But offshore i have never had to pay taxes and bonuses way better. Bonuses in NJ suck small ones often but not worth it to me. First deposit is best one. I get $10 bonus on a $30 deposit or deposit $88 get $18 garbage like that mostly. YW and BP have normally 40% cash or 70% FP .Justbet has 100% FP here and there. Jazz is 50% cash. GT is off and on sometimes i have seen up to 150% . And they all pay.
                      And you actually get paid much faster at many offshores than legal books. But I'm a patient man, so that doesn't matter too much to me anyways. As long as I get paid.
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                      • Thrilla
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-10-15
                        • 13809

                        #12
                        Originally posted by flyingillini
                        They don’t compare to Marathon Bet or Pinnacle.
                        How can you put Marathon and Pinnacle in the same league? Pinnacle doesn't limit while at Marathon you're lucky to get 10 bucks in. Guess we now know what kind of bettor you are.
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                        • stake1
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-19-18
                          • 18116

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DontTailMe
                          And you actually get paid much faster at many offshores than legal books. But I'm a patient man, so that doesn't matter too much to me anyways. As long as I get paid.
                          True. only issue is now if you have a major problem/glitch offshore? No one is around to facilitate the payout. No more leading watchdogs to assist
                          the land based? Regulated and have to pay you, albeit slower
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                          • ThaWoj
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 03-09-10
                            • 6762

                            #14
                            The customer service at dk and fd is awful. Caesars too.

                            I have an issue at fanduel. I deposited via bank transfer on the 28th. I had just enough in there for the deposit. I thought it would be like betmgm and take the money out instantly. Stupid me never checked. Well they didnt attempt to take the money out until the 31st at night...but i had another small charge come through earlier in the day..resulting in my bank not paying fanduel.

                            Of course i went on a heater. Now im stressing out and want to pay them asap . But support keeps telling me they get back to me. Ive tried twitter, chat, etc.

                            Im not gonna have my winnings confiscated like offshore would, am I?

                            No shot taken, if that was the case i would have deposited way more than what i did.
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                            • dark star
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-04-09
                              • 3900

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pharm_cat
                              you are getting paid in a timely manner no hoops to jump through
                              this
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                              • DontTailMe
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-24-19
                                • 2897

                                #16
                                Originally posted by stake1
                                True. only issue is now if you have a major problem/glitch offshore? No one is around to facilitate the payout. No more leading watchdogs to assist
                                the land based? Regulated and have to pay you, albeit slower
                                Not exactly true. There is that other site which has picked up that mantle.

                                But I would say that people should indeed be cautious about which offshore books they trust their money with.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  Customer Service over matched usa

                                  Too over whelmed
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                                  • themike78
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-01-13
                                    • 4873

                                    #18
                                    I don't understand why they don't just hire more customer service reps. When it takes a week to reply to an email or no live phone operator something is wrong. I was going to deposit to sugarhouse app but there was an issue depositing and I could get no help from customer service. So I will never in my life make a deposit there. They need to understand they are losing customers over this.
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                                    • ThaWoj
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-09-10
                                      • 6762

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by themike78
                                      I don't understand why they don't just hire more customer service reps. When it takes a week to reply to an email or no live phone operator something is wrong. I was going to deposit to sugarhouse app but there was an issue depositing and I could get no help from customer service. So I will never in my life make a deposit there. They need to understand they are losing customers over this.
                                      Its awful. Im still waiting on fanduel. Chat rep yesterday said he would send an email. No email . Support on twitter said they would follow up. Nothing. My withdrawal is still pending. I have no clue if I will even get to keep my winnings. I want to pay these people. You would think they would want to respond. Live chat shows 99+ ppl ahead of you and they dont help anyways.

                                      Caesars just never even responded after 3 emails.

                                      Barstool was good at first but now slow to reply.

                                      Hell even the playplus card support takes forever to respond.

                                      Terrible.
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ThaWoj
                                        Its awful. Im still waiting on fanduel. Chat rep yesterday said he would send an email. No email . Support on twitter said they would follow up. Nothing. My withdrawal is still pending. I have no clue if I will even get to keep my winnings. I want to pay these people. You would think they would want to respond. Live chat shows 99+ ppl ahead of you and they dont help anyways.

                                        Caesars just never even responded after 3 emails.

                                        Barstool was good at first but now slow to reply.

                                        Hell even the playplus card support takes forever to respond.

                                        Terrible.
                                        Whats crazy offshore under 2 minutes
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                                        • 5mike5
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 09-21-11
                                          • 52020

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by stake1
                                          True. only issue is now if you have a major problem/glitch offshore? No one is around to facilitate the payout. No more leading watchdogs to assist
                                          the land based? Regulated and have to pay you, albeit slower
                                          I've never waited more than 24 hrs to get paid since legal started. Always in bank next morning after request
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                                          • no options
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 12-21-21
                                            • 27

                                            #22
                                            i got paid within 20 min at draftkings
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                                            • Mike Huntertz
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-19-09
                                              • 11207

                                              #23
                                              Pinnacle LA Rams -4 -107
                                              Bengals +4 -102

                                              Show me that line on a USA book JJ???
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                                              • DontTailMe
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-24-19
                                                • 2897

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                I've never waited more than 24 hrs to get paid since legal started. Always in bank next morning after request
                                                Caesars New York just took almost a week for me.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  Fandual the worldwide leader openers
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                                                  • pavyracer
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82839

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    Fandual the worldwide leader openers
                                                    Do you know what is the ratio of US books action vs the rest of the World?

                                                    For every $1 gambled at US based books $999 are gambled in all the other countries in the world combined.
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                                                    • Headsterx
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-03-16
                                                      • 23058

                                                      #27
                                                      Not being in California. They would lose so much with California red tape. 😂
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                                                      • nick1976
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 01-22-22
                                                        • 153

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by d2bets
                                                        What do you mean?

                                                        Limits is certainly not an advantage of USA books. USA books are generally much tougher with limiting and have lower limits than offshores.
                                                        I do not bet that big but looking at action network twitter etc They are constantly posting bets that is 100K or 500K or whatever. Look at MatressMack betting 4.5 mill on the Bengals. never see that at Pinnacle
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