How good is the Cowboy Defense?

[Chi_archie]

are they just on an insane hot streak?

haven't been paying much attention to them, but picked up their D 5 games ago for fantasy football, and they've been balling ever since.

why weren't they performing like this earlier in the year? did they have guys out earlier in the year?

[Snowball]

only their playoff performance will be remembered now.

they are good - but playoff test will say how good.

[MinnesotaFats]

Really??

Saints w a RB st qb
Wash
NYG
Wash

Dude, the fukking Jaguars would be 2-2 vs that bunch lol

Dal defense is horseshit. Any offense w a RB and a decent TE and competent QB can control the game on them, out gain them, out 1st down them or outscore them.

Dallas is NOT a contender, they are frauds

[jtoler]

they arnt good really its just that the takeways stand out and thats wut people remember

[hehfest]

One of the better units in the league. Don't forget, they also play with an offense that scores fast. Not always easy to be a good defense when that happens. Its much more simple to be a good def with a team that has 10 minute drives, etc.

[thomorino]

They are solid but not elite. Lawrence and Gregory are back now, both missed time.

[pavyracer]

They will have trouble with Packers and Rams. They will be facing elite QBs and not the scrubs WFT and Giants have.

[jtoler]

Really??

Saints w a RB st qb
Wash
NYG
Wash

Dude, the fukking Jaguars would be 2-2 vs that bunch lol

Dal defense is horseshit. Any offense w a RB and a decent TE and competent QB can control the game on them, out gain them, out 1st down them or outscore them.

Dallas is NOT a contender, they are frauds

exactly and before saints they lost to raiders giving up 36 I just dont trust their D but with that offense they can outscore opponents or at least keep up with them

[thomorino]

They will have trouble with Packers and Rams. They will be facing elite QBs and not the scrubs WFT and Giants have.

Matt Stafford is not remotely close to am elite quarterback. You know nothing. He's won 1 playoff game on his entire career.

[pavyracer]

Matt Stafford is not remotely close to am elite quarterback. You know nothing. He's won 1 playoff game on his entire career.

How many playoff games the Cowboys won the last 25 years?

[thomorino]

How many playoff games the Cowboys won the last 25 years?

That has nothing to with the conversation about Stafford.

[pavyracer]

That has nothing to with the conversation about Stafford.

Do a Google search and see how many playoff games the Rams won the last 25 years and how many the Cowboys won.

[hehfest]

Matt Stafford is not remotely close to am elite quarterback. You know nothing. He's won 1 playoff game on his entire career.

His best team around him was when they got JOBBED in Dallas by that Ref that was in Jerry Jones's pocket. Detroit got screwed on 2 vital major game-changing calls in the game in Dallas. Not saying they win the SB that year, but give him 2 wins. Just like give Brees another SB appearance he got jobbed in that Rams game. I had $$ on the Rams in that game BIG, but NO got robbed. It still was the right side to be on even if Rams lost.

So, to be fair, Stafford has only had one year of a good team around him. Its Detroit. Its the Lions. Are you kidding me? Now, he is older too, but if he gets the Rams back this year or in the future than I would consider him elite.

[thomorino]

His best team around him was when they got JOBBED in Dallas by that Ref that was in Jerry Jones's pocket. Detroit got screwed on 2 vital major game-changing calls in the game in Dallas. Not saying they win the SB that year, but give him 2 wins. Just like give Brees another SB appearance he got jobbed in that Rams game. I had $$ on the Rams in that game BIG, but NO got robbed. It still was the right side to be on even if Rams lost.

So, to be fair, Stafford has only had one year of a good team around him. Its Detroit. Its the Lions. Are you kidding me? Now, he is older too, but if he gets the Rams back this year or in the future than I would consider him elite.

Thats completely incorrect. He had the best receiver on the entire NFL on his team for 10 years, he also had very good defenses when sih and fairley we're there. The claim Stafford didn't have talent around is completely wrong. He's a good not great quarterback, he's nothing close to elite.

He was 1-20 on grass against teams with winning records at one point in his career. There's not a single stat that suggests he's elite or close to elite.

[thomorino]

Do a Google search and see how many playoff games the Rams won the last 25 years and how many the Cowboys won.

Im talking about Stafford, not the Rams or Cowboys. Your dumb comment was the Stafford is elite, he's not.

[hehfest]

Thats completely incorrect. He had the best receiver on the entire NFL on his team for 10 years, he also had very good defenses when sih and fairley we're there. The claim Stafford didn't have talent around is completely wrong. He's a good not great quarterback, he's nothing close to elite.

He was 1-20 on grass against teams with winning records at one point in his career. There's not a single stat that suggests he's elite or close to elite.

Fairley was a part-time player. Took half the snaps off. Look, dude, I live 5 minutes from Detroit and have lived here most of my life. Stafford was the best QB they've had here since Bobby Lane. Do you how many years its been since Bobby? He is border-line elite or very very good. Period. Sorry, having Suh, kicking players while they're on the ground taking penalties to lose games for them? Wrong. He never had a good enough defense to win......period. Suh is one player. Fairley was always injured and took too many snaps off. Who else did they have? Who was in their secondary? Willie "big play" Slay? Not even sure if he was around for that Dallas game.

I'm not even trying to argue that he is a "elite" QB, but he was just a notch below elite. The next notch down. Which is better than the Lions have had since Bobby Lane.

[thomorino]

Fairley was a part-time player. Took half the snaps off. Look, dude, I live 5 minutes from Detroit and have lived here most of my life. Stafford was the best QB they've had here since Bobby Lane. Do you how many years its been since Bobby? He is border-line elite or very very good. Period. Sorry, having Suh, kicking players while they're on the ground taking penalties to lose games for them? Wrong. He never had a good enough defense to win......period. Suh is one player. Fairley was always injured and took too many snaps off. Who else did they have? Who was in their secondary? Willie "big play" Slay? Not even sure if he was around for that Dallas game.

I'm not even trying to argue that he is a "elite" QB, but he was just a notch below elite. The next notch down. Which is better than the Lions have had since Bobby Lane.

The Detroit defense with Suh and Fairley was a top defense. Suh was t best defensive player in football in his prime before he went to Miami, and Fairley was very good too. Kevin Jones was good, Marvin Jones, golden Tate, Calvin Johnson, he had plenty of talent around him.

Most games Detroit where Detroit lost to good teams was because Stafford wasn't good enough, it was not the defense. He's a borderline pro bowl quarterback, he's nothing close to elite, not close. An elite quarterback who had the best receiver in football for 10 years would win more than 1 playoff game.

Stafford is not remotely close to elite, again, he was 1-20 on grass against teams with winning records, 1-20.

[hehfest]

The Detroit defense with Suh and Fairley was a top defense. Suh was t best defensive player in football in his prime before he went to Miami, and Fairley was very good too. Kevin Jones was good, Marvin Jones, golden Tate, Calvin Johnson, he had plenty of talent around him.

Most games Detroit where Detroit lost to good teams was because Stafford wasn't good enough, it was not the defense. He's a borderline pro bowl quarterback, he's nothing close to elite, not close. An elite quarterback who had the best receiver in football for 10 years would win more than 1 playoff game.

Stafford is not remotely close to elite, again, he was 1-20 on grass against teams with winning records, 1-20.

Okay bro. I can't argue with you on this. I agree we disagree. I think he's a notch below "elite". The next notch down. You don't see it that way, and that's fine.

The fact the Rams gave up what they did to get him? What was it like 2 1st rounders...? Whatever it was, I would even agree that it was way TOO MUCH. However, I do respect the Rams as a franchise and they obviously get paid to make decisions, not me. They highly coveted Matt Stafford. Period.

So, you're basically spitting in the face of the Rams organization. The Rams at least have Super Bowl championships whether in St. Louis or elsewhere and were in the SB a few years back.
I wasn't ever trying to say he's Rodgers, Brady, Mahomes QB here anyway. I just think he's better than you're crediting him for.

[BigJay]

Really??

Saints w a RB st qb
Wash
NYG
Wash

Dude, the fukking Jaguars would be 2-2 vs that bunch lol

Dal defense is horseshit. Any offense w a RB and a decent TE and competent QB can control the game on them, out gain them, out 1st down them or outscore them.

Dallas is NOT a contender, they are frauds

If the Cowboys had Kirk Cousins at QB and also played him at linebacker opposite Parsons they would be unstoppable.

[jjgold]

Dallas beat nobody
Be careful

Just like KC

[OldBill]

I told you all long ago dalls double kiss of death #1 all teams featured on Hardknocks series NEVER played in a superbowl

#2 any team that lost to T B in a meanigful game NEVER won a sb current record with 10 teams who who lost this year is 250 -0 inlduding 4 teams who got there SO all the teams tyhat lost to TB this year will not be playing in the sb

[DrunkHorseplayer]

Really??

Saints w a RB st qb
Wash
NYG
Wash

Dude, the fukking Jaguars would be 2-2 vs that bunch lol

Dal defense is horseshit. Any offense w a RB and a decent TE and competent QB can control the game on them, out gain them, out 1st down them or outscore them.

Dallas is NOT a contender, they are frauds

Bingo. Their D is looking good because they're playing lesser teams, especially the NFC East. It's a different ballgame playing TB, GB, etc.

[OldBill]

Stafford elite?? YES elite Loser all time and even tho rams facing no bodies barely winning teams like Vikings seattle the cards omg plaese thier whole season is a joke

Rams will NOT Be polaying in thier home in the SB i gurantee it Carhgers might not even make playoffs now rasm get in and LOSE vs tamps bay or if make finals @ Green bay get waxed dallas too will punish rams in playoffs

even tho dallas lost to tamps bay they might see rams 1st playoff game GB is # 1 seed so all other div champs in NFC NO bye weeks

Rams get another gift this week @ ravens but then final week at hme vs 49ers i betcha they lose again finish 3-3 in div games and cards win out 4-1 or 5-1 in div rams get WC but i cant see cards beating Dallas in dallas but dallas stupid putting up 56 points vs wash

ahh screw it let me finsih handicapping week 17 ats and other stuff

[thomorino]

Okay bro. I can't argue with you on this. I agree we disagree. I think he's a notch below "elite". The next notch down. You don't see it that way, and that's fine.

The fact the Rams gave up what they did to get him? What was it like 2 1st rounders...? Whatever it was, I would even agree that it was way TOO MUCH. However, I do respect the Rams as a franchise and they obviously get paid to make decisions, not me. They highly coveted Matt Stafford. Period.

So, you're basically spitting in the face of the Rams organization. The Rams at least have Super Bowl championships whether in St. Louis or elsewhere and were in the SB a few years back.
I wasn't ever trying to say he's Rodgers, Brady, Mahomes QB here anyway. I just think he's better than you're crediting him for.

The Bears gave up 2 first round picks for Cutler, he's not elite either.

[thomorino]

Okay bro. I can't argue with you on this. I agree we disagree. I think he's a notch below "elite". The next notch down. You don't see it that way, and that's fine.

The fact the Rams gave up what they did to get him? What was it like 2 1st rounders...? Whatever it was, I would even agree that it was way TOO MUCH. However, I do respect the Rams as a franchise and they obviously get paid to make decisions, not me. They highly coveted Matt Stafford. Period.

So, you're basically spitting in the face of the Rams organization. The Rams at least have Super Bowl championships whether in St. Louis or elsewhere and were in the SB a few years back.
I wasn't ever trying to say he's Rodgers, Brady, Mahomes QB here anyway. I just think he's better than you're crediting him for.

The Rams were desperate and Stafford is a good quarterback, he's just not elite.

Again, the Detroit defense with Suh was a top defense most years.

[stake1]

Dallas beat nobody
Be careful

Just like KC

McCarthy always good for some bonehead coaching moves in the playoffs