Nets are bringing Kyrie Irving back as a part time player. lol

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  • BuckyOne
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    #36
    OK, documented Covid. What does the state of New York say about that. As good as having the shots?
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    • DiggityDaggityDo
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      #37
      He’s back!
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      • jjgold
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        #38
        Wow!

        Nets in finals now
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        • IBetYou
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          #39
          Well it was inevitable... politicians always keen to curry favour and what better way than to pass an insignificant law for pro-sports.
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          • Mac4Lyfe
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            • 01-04-09
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            #40
            Originally posted by jjgold
            Wow!Nets in finals now
            Not sure they can beat the Celtics or Bucks. I love the Celtics to get to the Finals.
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            • jjgold
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              #41
              Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
              Not sure they can beat the Celtics or Bucks. I love the Celtics to get to the Finals.
              Good points Celts 2nd best team in NBA

              Came out of nowhere
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              • biggie12
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                #42
                76ers
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                • lakerboy
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                  Not sure they can beat the Celtics or Bucks. I love the Celtics to get to the Finals.
                  Really? Why is that? You don't think they are peaking early?
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                  • jjgold
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                    #44
                    Nets biggest issue zero defense
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                    • Goat Milk
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                      Not sure they can beat the Celtics or Bucks. I love the Celtics to get to the Finals.
                      Nets were 1 inch away from beating the Bucks last year without Kyrie, pretty sure if you add the best pg in the world that changes things
                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                      • Goat Milk
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        Nets biggest issue zero defense
                        The best perimeter defender in the nba has yet to be added. He doesn't need to do anything on that team except play defense. They have weapons everywhere. Even Aldritch, off the bench, can score 15 any given game. You got Seth Curry, you got Patty Mills, snipers everywhere.
                        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                        • shadymcgrady
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                          • 02-27-12
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by Goat Milk
                          The best perimeter defender in the nba has yet to be added. He doesn't need to do anything on that team except play defense. They have weapons everywhere. Even Aldritch, off the bench, can score 15 any given game. You got Seth Curry, you got Patty Mills, snipers everywhere.
                          Every single name mentioned is a liability on defense. They should make lamarcus Aldridge nickname the jogger. That's all he does everytime the person he's defending gets the ball.

                          It's a forgone conclusion that he's giving up the basket and he's always inbounding the ball underneath the basket after the score and jogging back up the court. That's his defense
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                          • Goat Milk
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by shadymcgrady
                            Every single name mentioned is a liability on defense. They should make lamarcus Aldridge nickname the jogger. That's all he does everytime the person he's defending gets the ball.

                            It's a forgone conclusion that he's giving up the basket and he's always inbounding the ball underneath the basket after the score and jogging back up the court. That's his defense
                            As weird as this is to say, I think Kyrie is one of the most improved defensive players I've ever seen. Never thought I would say that. He really gets into guys and moves his feet well. Durant, we know that he is a force defensively in the playoffs. He's never a libaility. Ben Simmons is the best perimeter defender in basketball without question imo. And Andre Drummond is a rebounding machine, he's not much worse than Gobert on D to be honest. Bruce Brown who starts is a hawk on defense.

                            This team is far better defensively than you think.
                            Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                            • Kermit
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                              #49
                              I can't believe they blew that game last night.
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                              • Goat Milk
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by Kermit
                                I can't believe they blew that game last night.
                                yeah annoying

                                took them at +500
                                Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                • pilebuck13
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                                  #51
                                  Had grizzly’s ML yesterday classic overreaction in Ja sitting. the boards and lack of defense destroyed them it was a team effort and the grizzly’s clowned them easy bet easy win. Yah Kyrie and Durant got There’s so what they lost mills is a bozo brick machine that teams a flop all hype
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                                  • budwiser
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                                    #52
                                    The Nets are playing without Simmons and Curry, and without Kyrie at home.

                                    Anyone who doesn't think they are a threat, IF healthy (big IF), is a blithering fool imo
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                                    • Goat Milk
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by budwiser
                                      The Nets are playing without Simmons and Curry, and without Kyrie at home.

                                      Anyone who doesn't think they are a threat, IF healthy (big IF), is a blithering fool imo
                                      Most of those ppl are rookie gamblers, they think the regular season means anything. Things are much different when you play the same team over and over and get to prepare for adjustments every other day. This team came the closest to beating the champion bucks. Lost the series by 1 inch, literally. That was without Kyrie. Without Mills, Curry, Aldridge, and Simmons.

                                      The reason why Kyrie is one of the best pgs ever is because he's just so efficient. In that way he is very much like Steve Nash, that 50 40 90 guy. Only difference is, reason why Nash never won a ring is because he never got to play with a Kobe type in his prime. Irving gets to. Kevin Durant is the greatest offensive weapon we've seen since Bryant.
                                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                      • pilebuck13
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                                        #54
                                        No defense there out first round
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                                        • Goat Milk
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                          No defense there out first round
                                          Good luck.
                                          Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                          • pilebuck13
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                            Good luck.
                                            Nash got them out there playing the mike D Antonio style garbage NO defense shootouts don’t win in playoffs first round out
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                                            • IBetYou
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                                              #57
                                              Nets currently on course to face the Raptors in game 1 of the play-in... Irving can't play in Canada can he? I don't suppose they'll have much trouble with the HEAT as an 8th seed but it should affect the odds.
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                                              • IBetYou
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                                                #58
                                                Top seed wide open actually... might be HEAT or Bucks or Sixers or even Celtics.
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                                                • Goat Milk
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                                  Nash got them out there playing the mike D Antonio style garbage NO defense shootouts don’t win in playoffs first round out
                                                  Incorrect assessment. Nets have some of the best individual defenders in basketball with Simmons healthy. And last time I checked, Kevin Durant isn't James Harden. He's a top 10 player in the history of basketball. And that Houston team you're talking about was up 3-2 against the most stacked team ever assembled, before Chris Paul got hurt and couldn't play.
                                                  Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                  • Goat Milk
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by IBetYou
                                                    Top seed wide open actually... might be HEAT or Bucks or Sixers or even Celtics.
                                                    Won't be surprised if Boston gets the 1 seed.
                                                    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                    • shadymcgrady
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                      As weird as this is to say, I think Kyrie is one of the most improved defensive players I've ever seen. Never thought I would say that. He really gets into guys and moves his feet well. Durant, we know that he is a force defensively in the playoffs. He's never a libaility. Ben Simmons is the best perimeter defender in basketball without question imo. And Andre Drummond is a rebounding machine, he's not much worse than Gobert on D to be honest. Bruce Brown who starts is a hawk on defense.

                                                      This team is far better defensively than you think.
                                                      Kyrie and Durant don't rly count, they don't play defense often but they absolutely have the ability to do it and do it very well.

                                                      Drummond is pretty soft on defense, Bruce Brown is a great all around player. Nash should be playing him in the 30+ minute range and at crunch time
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                                                      • Goat Milk
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by shadymcgrady
                                                        Kyrie and Durant don't rly count, they don't play defense often but they absolutely have the ability to do it and do it very well.

                                                        Drummond is pretty soft on defense, Bruce Brown is a great all around player. Nash should be playing him in the 30+ minute range and at crunch time
                                                        That's the part ppl don't think about. Sure when you play 80 games, Durant isn't gonna waste his energy on defense. But just say, if Durant only wanted to take 5 shots a game, then he would be the best defensive player in the league. Durant is a better defender than draymond, draymond just doesn't have to use any energy for offense. But in crunch time, if the game is on the line, you are gonna have a hard time if you think you are gonna do a pick and roll and durant switches onto you, and somehow the team thinks of him as the weak link. That will never work.
                                                        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                        • budwiser
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                          Most of those ppl are rookie gamblers, they think the regular season means anything. Things are much different when you play the same team over and over and get to prepare for adjustments every other day. This team came the closest to beating the champion bucks. Lost the series by 1 inch, literally. That was without Kyrie. Without Mills, Curry, Aldridge, and Simmons.

                                                          The reason why Kyrie is one of the best pgs ever is because he's just so efficient. In that way he is very much like Steve Nash, that 50 40 90 guy. Only difference is, reason why Nash never won a ring is because he never got to play with a Kobe type in his prime. Irving gets to. Kevin Durant is the greatest offensive weapon we've seen since Bryant.
                                                          Agreed. I had the bux last season +850 you can see it on covers. Confirmed

                                                          It took a kyrie ankle a harden hamstring to barely squeak by a team with durant and role players. Harden was mostly ineffective

                                                          The upside on this tean is insane. As someone said drummond is soft on d, they'll need simmons to help control the paint, which is what he does. And he can guard perimeter.

                                                          You add curry to a team with durant and kyrie? Come on.

                                                          This team is hands down the best team on paper. It is one thin piece of paper but I'll take my chances.

                                                          I doubled down on this. Big cash if nets win title
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                                                          • budwiser
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                                                            #64
                                                            They are a big upgrade from the harden team imo. They got role players. They didn't need another point guard shooter with kyrie.

                                                            Kyrie is incredibly underrated.

                                                            Key is getting the 8th spot. Big game with charlotte coming up
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                                                            • budwiser
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                                                              #65
                                                              What makes durant special.is his height. You can't stop the guy. You can be right on him he just shoots anyway.

                                                              This nets team healthy is as close to video game joystick as you can get
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                                                              • IBetYou
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                                                                #66
                                                                This nets team healthy is as close to video game joystick as you can get

                                                                You mean a C O C K ?

                                                                Two main concerns for the Nets are...

                                                                1. Lack of team players. They figure to be a take-it-in-turns type team with Irving & Durant fighting each other for shots.
                                                                2. Spacing. Yes they have elite shooters but if they want to have two of Simmons/ Brown/ Drummond on the floor at the same time the lane might be a bit clogged vs the better defensive squads.
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                                                                • jjgold
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Irving great offense but he cannot play defense
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                                                                  • Buckandadime
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                                                    He’s back!
                                                                    Is the guy gonna set a precedent for all these prima Dona NBA millionaires?
                                                                    That's the question that rages in my mind..
                                                                    Oh, I'm too sore, I'm too tired, I'm much too stressed from the global strife of today's world to concentrate on 6 months of a season..
                                                                    Let me start now, playoff time to show my talent..
                                                                    Gimme a fukkin break...
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                                                                    • IBetYou
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      3. Character (Irving, Simmons).
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                                                                      • budwiser
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by IBetYou
                                                                        This nets team healthy is as close to video game joystick as you can get
                                                                        You mean a C O C K ?
                                                                        Two main concerns for the Nets are...
                                                                        1. Lack of team players. They figure to be a take-it-in-turns type team with Irving & Durant fighting each other for shots.
                                                                        2. Spacing. Yes they have elite shooters but if they want to have two of Simmons/ Brown/ Drummond on the floor at the same time the lane might be a bit clogged vs the better defensive squads.
                                                                        It wouldn't be +550 if it was easy. Sure a lot of people think no chance.

                                                                        Re: 1, are the Nets a better team post-Harden trade or pre-? Seems obvious with Harden it's not only fighting for shots, but for the ball. Curry just wants to shoot, he doesn't want to play point.

                                                                        2. spacing, the team is more like the warriors now. you got 3-point shooters in durant, curry, irving. you got a penetrators to mid-range in durant, you got full penetration with irving. that leaves plenty of space for simmonds and drummond to get cheap passes for cherries and dunks.
                                                                        3.character. hard pressed to find a more hated guy than irving-and for what-not getting vaccinated. durant, he's focused on winning another championship and getting the spotlight on him, not lebron-durant is known for having dirty clothes, smelly socks. drummond can be a head case, sure-not the sharpest tool in the shed. i don't see any lack of effort. we're talking about a league full of prima donnas. when it comes to the playoffs, all the nba guys are going to play hard. regular season? naa. i don't see character issues.

                                                                        the biggest problem here and everyone knows this is defense. maybe it could be related to 3/character. but i don't think so. they are not a great defensive team. that's why it's critical to get an elite defender like ben simmons. as said brown can play physical d, and what d does griffin have left? as we know drummond is beatable down low-a strong center like yannis, embiid are going to have field days unless the nets find a way to play d. still they're better off post-trade with drummond than no drummond.
                                                                        it's great to know there are detractors. generally my better bets have strong detractors online. if everyone agrees it's more of a problem.

                                                                        isiah said on nba tv healthy the nets are the team to beat. i know, what does isiah know lol
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