The proper way to rank offensive lines in the NFL?

BeatTheJerk · 11-20-21, 07:39 AM

Great idea, but how the fukk you gonna do all that & not have to quit your day job ?

Runeblade · 11-20-21, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by BeatTheJerk

Great idea, but how the fukk you gonna do all that & not have to quit your day job ?

LOL...I know I got a lot of homework to do.

HappyGilmore18 · 11-20-21, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by Runeblade

LOL...I know I got a lot of homework to do.

Chicago Bears have to be dead last in everything but run blocking.

Runeblade · 11-20-21, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by happygilmore18

chicago bears have to be dead last in everything but run blocking.

da bears!!!

Chi_archie · 11-20-21, 07:50 AM

I think it would be better to use a group like pro football focus that ranks/grades each lineman on each play.

Runeblade · 11-20-21, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

I think it would be better to use a group like pro football focus that ranks/grades each lineman on each play.

True, plus how much pressure is coming from that side and who is letting that pressure come in.

Chi_archie · 11-20-21, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by Runeblade

True, plus how much pressure is coming from that side and who is letting that pressure come in.

the stats you mention can be a piece of the puzzle, but there are other factors that can skew those #'s such as the talent of the opposing defenses they've face, weather, having a shitty QB that fumbles snaps or can't "feel" pressure or throw it away. a shitty RB that can't find holes or tries to make barry sanders moves.

with personnel rankings the O linemen got rated on their performance of their assignment and if they made their block well they get credit for that, and they don't get detracted for a RB stumbling behind the line or the R guard letting a LB through.

also with so many injuries on the O line. The stats obtained from the first part of the season might not be as applicable to the starting O line that is going out there in week 13 or something. Synergy is a big thing with O lines.

I do really like the idea to gather up the 3rd down, 4th down rushing first down %, maybe as well as rushing td's from 3 yard line in.

Runeblade · 11-20-21, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

the stats you mention can be a piece of the puzzle, but there are other factors that can skew those #'s such as the talent of the opposing defenses they've face, weather, having a shitty QB that fumbles snaps or can't "feel" pressure or throw it away. a shitty RB that can't find holes or tries to make barry sanders moves.

with personnel rankings the O linemen got rated on their performance of their assignment and if they made their block well they get credit for that, and they don't get detracted for a RB stumbling behind the line or the R guard letting a LB through.

also with so many injuries on the O line. The stats obtained from the first part of the season might not be as applicable to the starting O line that is going out there in week 13 or something. Synergy is a big thing with O lines.

I do really like the idea to gather up the 3rd down, 4th down rushing first down %, maybe as well as rushing td's from 3 yard line in.

Yeah I'm putting some things together for next season so I can start from week 1. It would be to tedious to go all the way back now. Thank you for that input though.

Chi_archie · 11-20-21, 03:09 PM

yeah thanks for bringing this up, I would like to come up with somethign more comprehensive next year and going forward for the O line. I leaned heavy into PFF rankings heavy after covid because I thought that would be where the games were won and lost with the extreme lack of in person reps during covid.

this season has provided great data now, with getting things back to normal with continuity in everyone being able to practice and play together again. I think this year's rookie O line class and next year's and maybe even the 2023 draft class will have a bit of a stunted growth and lack of experience. SO I think there will be value in finding teams that have that 0 line with that solid core of 3-4 or hopeflly 5 guys that have been in the system for 4+ years and not having to bring some 5th round pick into a crucial spot

Runeblade · 11-20-21, 03:10 PM

Basically, I'm looking at a point value structure per metric. For example:

Sacks allowed will be (x) number of points deducted while rushing yards obtained by RBs and QBs will be (x) number of points added. Like I said I got a lot of homework lol.

Runeblade · 11-20-21, 06:49 PM

Does anyone know the best site to watch every snap of the NFL games?