NJ Voters Knocks Down A Sports Betting Issue

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    NJ Voters Knocks Down A Sports Betting Issue
    Constitutional amendment to expand sports betting to include all college sports or athletic events, including those involving a New Jersey team.



    Yes

    42.98%




    ★ WINNER
    No

    57.02%





  • magpie878
    SBR MVP
    • 10-04-18
    • 1435

    #2
    Makes no sense that I can't bet Rutgers while in NJ... or Seton Hall.. or whomever.... so stupid.

    Then again, NJ re-elected criminal Murphy. Why would I expect any less?
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    • Mac4Lyfe
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-04-09
      • 48531

      #3
      Originally posted by magpie878
      Makes no sense that I can't bet Rutgers while in NJ... or Seton Hall.. or whomever.... so stupid.
      Then again, NJ re-elected criminal Murphy. Why would I expect any less?
      Devils advocate... You may have gone to school with Seton Hall point guard and you get insider information pretty easy as a result.

      or the long snapper for Rutgers is barreled in from a local shark, so he muffs the snap to the punter.
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      • magpie878
        SBR MVP
        • 10-04-18
        • 1435

        #4
        And?

        Wouldn't this be an issue with every other state that allows same-state betting? Where's all the fixing scandals because of it?

        It also won't stop someone from simply driving over the bridge to PA (as I do every day for work) to make a bet. Especially if that person knows the point guard and insider info, even more reason to make the effort.

        Every situation can have an alternate point of view, including having sports gambling AT ALL.
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        • LongBall52
          SBR MVP
          • 06-14-20
          • 1319

          #5
          Originally posted by magpie878
          And?

          Wouldn't this be an issue with every other state that allows same-state betting? Where's all the fixing scandals because of it?

          It also won't stop someone from simply driving over the bridge to PA (as I do every day for work) to make a bet. Especially if that person knows the point guard and insider info, even more reason to make the effort.

          Every situation can have an alternate point of view, including having sports gambling AT ALL.
          The thing is: You have to go out of your way to do it. Maybe only a minor inconvenience, but it could be a major drawback for others. The law is the same in Virginia about no betting on them here.
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          • magpie878
            SBR MVP
            • 10-04-18
            • 1435

            #6
            Originally posted by LongBall52
            The thing is: You have to go out of your way to do it. Maybe only a minor inconvenience, but it could be a major drawback for others. The law is the same in Virginia about no betting on them here.
            If someone is going through the trouble to get insider info and/or fix, you think a short drive is going to stop them?
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              Fixing does not stop anyone

              So many options to bet now within close proximity
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              • Mac4Lyfe
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-04-09
                • 48531

                #8
                Originally posted by magpie878
                And?
                Wouldn't this be an issue with every other state that allows same-state betting? Where's all the fixing scandals because of it?
                It also won't stop someone from simply driving over the bridge to PA (as I do every day for work) to make a bet. Especially if that person knows the point guard and insider info, even more reason to make the effort.
                Every situation can have an alternate point of view, including having sports gambling AT ALL.
                I'm not saying I agree with it but that's the reasoning behind it. It's the NIMBY effect. Not In My Back Yard. Most people enjoy going to casinos but they don't really want one next door.
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                • Roger T. Bannon
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-28-18
                  • 5139

                  #9
                  They got suckered by the NCAA. They will change that pretty fast.
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                  • LongBall52
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-14-20
                    • 1319

                    #10
                    Nobody is saying a FIX can't happen!!! They are saying why make it very easy. It happens more than we all want to even think about.
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                    • Roger T. Bannon
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-28-18
                      • 5139

                      #11
                      Actually this probably will not change so fast. Not a big deal. I thought this was no college gambling for a second. There is nothing people love more than pretending that college sports is amateur athletics. We don't want people damaging the integrity of Rutgers football.
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                      • magpie878
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-04-18
                        • 1435

                        #12
                        We will allow all kinds of sport betting, from any country in the world, including ones you've never heard of, where shady antics never happen.... but you will NOT be allowed to bet on Rutgers or Seton Hall!!! We must maintain our integrity!
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                        • swordsandtequila
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-23-12
                          • 9760

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                          Devils advocate... You may have gone to school with Seton Hall point guard and you get insider information pretty easy as a result.

                          or the long snapper for Rutgers is barreled in from a local shark, so he muffs the snap to the punter.
                          So "insider information" is ok as long as I don't live in the same state? Like nobody has access to a phone or the internet. If that's the bar then it's just another retarded law, like most of the shit put forth by our "elected" numbnuts. Not a shot at you.
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                          • LongBall52
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-14-20
                            • 1319

                            #14
                            Say Rutgers is playing a game next to the Meadowlands. And there is a sportsbook at the Racetrack there...Someone spreads a rumor about a fix. Maybe he's a regular at the book and there's a mad rush to bet on or against Rutgers. The book at the Meadowlands loses on this Game BIG time and there was or Was NOT any fix at ALL. They simply hope this doesn't happen.
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                            • magpie878
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-04-18
                              • 1435

                              #15
                              Yeah, I don't really think integrity lessons from politicians holds water.

                              But "it is what it is"
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                              • swordsandtequila
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-23-12
                                • 9760

                                #16
                                Originally posted by LongBall52
                                Say Rutgers is playing a game next to the Meadowlands. And there is a sportsbook at the Racetrack there...Someone spreads a rumor about a fix. Maybe he's a regular at the book and there's a mad rush to bet on or against Rutgers. The book at the Meadowlands loses on this Game BIG time and there was or Was NOT any fix at ALL. They simply hope this doesn't happen.
                                That's what software and line changes are for, any real book isn't taking a bath in that scenario. It was stated above, these rules/laws are to appease the soon-to-be powerless NCAA and the do-gooders who don't even gamble. It's for the sake of image, nothing more.
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                                • LongBall52
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-14-20
                                  • 1319

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                                  That's what software and line changes are for, any real book isn't taking a bath in that scenario. It was stated above, these rules/laws are to appease the soon-to-be powerless NCAA and the do-gooders who don't even gamble. It's for the sake of image, nothing more.
                                  Back in their championship days, my bookie told me it didn't matter if the "Redskins" were favorites of 3 or 30 his players bet them.
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #18
                                    Fix to easy to catch now

                                    Silly rule NJ voters dumb as rocks
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                                    • MinnesotaFats
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-18-10
                                      • 14758

                                      #19
                                      LOL I played against Darius Lan in HS

                                      Ain't Noone at Seton Hall smart enough to fix a game

                                      Kid took ACT like 4 times to get a 18
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                                      • clockwise1965
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 10-01-13
                                        • 6753

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                        LOL I played against Darius Lan in HS

                                        Ain't Noone at Seton Hall smart enough to fix a game

                                        Kid took ACT like 4 times to get a 18
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                                        • Fishhead
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-11-05
                                          • 40179

                                          #21
                                          EASTERN U.S. reeks
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                                          • Fishhead
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-11-05
                                            • 40179

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            Fix to easy to catch now

                                            Silly rule NJ voters dumb as rocks
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #23
                                              All books have services to monitor larger bets and same team bets and various locations

                                              you will get caught
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