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  • Gaze73
    SBR MVP
    • 01-27-14
    • 3291

    #1
    Why do so many people do parlays?
    I don't know if people genuinely think that putting multiple -EV picks into a parlay them +EV.

    E.g. there's a fav at -250 and someone might say "no value at these odds but good for a parlay"

    It's not good for a parlay, it's a -EV leg of a parlay, therefore it shouldn't be there at all.

    I believe that if you asked the average bettor if he'd bet on a coin toss at -110, he'd probably say no. But offer him a 5 coin toss multiple at +2400 and suddenly he thinks it's not a terrible bet.
  • baazigar
    SBR MVP
    • 05-09-08
    • 1589

    #2
    it’s the rushhhhh
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      In United States at one of the most popular bets


      Those parlay boosters and in game parlay

      Books know gamblers are suckers
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 61614

        #4
        Just don't bet -EV odds. Straight or parlayed. Problem solved.

        If you think they are +EV though, you are multiplying the +EVs by each other using a parlay.
        .
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        • Mike Huntertz
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-19-09
          • 11207

          #5
          Basically a bad idea. Some teasers(fancy parlays) can work if you hunt them down across key numbers.
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          • trobin31
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-09-14
            • 9854

            #6
            Parlay wins boost testosterone
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              USA Model all parlays and they do a great job with it

              Point and click auto generated ones, etc

              Software unreal how it gets people to bet them

              IT WORKS
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              • onetrikpony
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-28-20
                • 667

                #8
                same reason they buy lottery tickets.Wishful thinking
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  Pony yes good point
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                  • Enkhbat
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-18-11
                    • 3145

                    #10
                    I enjoy the thrill of a 10 team parlay.
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #11
                      Parlays can be a great way to reduce risk and increase rewards, expecially if you're getting fair payouts.

                      If they were so bad then we would see big neon signs advertising parlays, but you don't. Instead you get a parlay card as an ad, which has terrible odds as protection.

                      I know professionals that regularly make 10's of two picks on a typical Saturday.

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                      • onetrikpony
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-28-20
                        • 667

                        #12
                        Books make a TON off parlays An absolute cash cow for the books and casinos
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          Originally posted by onetrikpony
                          Books make a TON off parlays An absolute cash cow for the books and casinos
                          yep
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                          • KVB
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-29-14
                            • 74817

                            #14
                            Originally posted by onetrikpony
                            Books make a TON off parlays An absolute cash cow for the books and casinos
                            Originally posted by jjgold

                            yep
                            Books make money off spreads too.

                            It doesn't make them bad bets.

                            Books don't advertise two pick parlays.

                            There's a reason for that.
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                            • stevenash
                              Moderator
                              • 01-17-11
                              • 65613

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Optional
                              Just don't bet -EV odds. Straight or parlayed. Problem solved.

                              If you think they are +EV though, you are multiplying the +EVs by each other using a parlay.
                              This.
                              Exactly
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #16
                                It's a game of numbers and numbers is the game.

                                Never forget that.

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                                • Mr KLC
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 12-19-07
                                  • 31097

                                  #17
                                  Nothing wrong with a parlay. I bet $1-$3 a piece. I'm up $325 in October. All I had to do was win 1.
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                                  • Shutup
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-15-17
                                    • 2435

                                    #18
                                    Lots of times people have a bad run and are towwards the end of their bankroll so they do a parlay to get it back
                                    Either that or big favorites on Ml which seem easy but often screw you
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                                    • Runeblade
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-29-17
                                      • 2579

                                      #19
                                      Small risk big reward. I like to do big parlays on the weekends just for shits and giggles
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                                      • BeatTheJerk
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 08-19-07
                                        • 31794

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Runeblade
                                        Small risk big reward. I like to do big parlays on the weekends just for shits and giggles
                                        Runeblade do you know any live casino online that allows you to bet 1 dollar on black/red. A lot of them I have used it’s always 5 dollars.
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                                        • KVB
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-29-14
                                          • 74817

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                          Parlays can be a great way to reduce risk and increase rewards, expecially if you're getting fair payouts...
                                          Like I said in another thread, if I still believe my edge is there and am in a loosing streak or am down quite a bit, I would rather start making two pick parlays than reducing my bet size.

                                          It's the mathematics of teh situation.

                                          Now, if you aren't applying math to it, it can be a different story. It really can.
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                                          • pavyracer
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 04-12-07
                                            • 82839

                                            #22
                                            Is this guy serious? Parlays are a great tool to manage risk. You hit the first 2-3 legs then you can hedge easily later legs and win big.
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                                            • JacketFan81
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-28-17
                                              • 1742

                                              #23
                                              I hit one for almost $10k back in December. Biggest one I've ever hit. $50 bet!
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                                              • Roger T. Bannon
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-28-18
                                                • 5139

                                                #24
                                                Parlays are big with small time bettors. Bet $10 and get a potential big payoff. It adds excitement.
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                                                • BeatTheJerk
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 08-19-07
                                                  • 31794

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by JacketFan81
                                                  I hit one for almost $10k back in December. Biggest one I've ever hit. $50 bet!
                                                  The biggest one I ever hit was for 45k 9 teamer.

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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                    The biggest one I ever hit was for 45k 9 teamer.

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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                      Is this guy serious? Parlays are a great tool to manage risk. You hit the first 2-3 legs then you can hedge easily later legs and win big.
                                                      I get the concept of equity but overall you should consider individual plays over a parlay if you intend to hedge.

                                                      I suppose it all depends on your style of betting and edge at play but if you track it both ways you might find the math of individual bets catches up to you.

                                                      You might.
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                                                      • TommieGunshot
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-27-12
                                                        • 1607

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Gaze73
                                                        I don't know if people genuinely think that putting multiple -EV picks into a parlay them +EV.
                                                        I would be surprised if people think that.

                                                        There are definitely cases when parlays can increase EV. Most common is when limited by sportsbooks. Try to bet $500 and watch the thing spin around, only to be offered $100 and then the line moves. But I can put that same bet in a bunch of parlays and see them go right through without having to wait for approval.

                                                        There are also definitely opportunities for correlated parlays.
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                                                        • pavyracer
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 04-12-07
                                                          • 82839

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                                          I get the concept of equity but overall you should consider individual plays over a parlay if you intend to hedge.

                                                          I suppose it all depends on your style of betting and edge at play but if you track it both ways you might find the math of individual bets catches up to you.

                                                          You might.
                                                          You can't bet individual bets in soccer that you will include in a parlay. If you parlayed Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea today your bet would have lost 1 unit. If you bet them individually you would lose a lot of units as 2 out of 3 lost as big chalk. This is just one example.

                                                          The goal is to stay in the game and always have a bankroll so you can fight back. You can't win parlays by focusing on math..especially in soccer.
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                                                          • KVB
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 05-29-14
                                                            • 74817

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                            You can't bet individual bets in soccer that you will include in a parlay. If you parlayed Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea today your bet would have lost 1 unit. If you bet them individually you would lose a lot of units as 2 out of 3 lost as big chalk. This is just one example.

                                                            The goal is to stay in the game and always have a bankroll so you can fight back. You can't win parlays by focusing on math..especially in soccer.
                                                            We know what happens when you bet a parlay or individual bets, of course there will be losses. But if the games aren't going off at the same time, then you are likely to do better betting them individually than in a parlay.

                                                            You still must use the same bet amounts as you would in each play of the parlay.

                                                            You can only win with parlays if you understand the math. That's my point. You need to track both ways to see what I mean. Making open parlays or a parlay with the intention of hedging the last play, if you get there, is likely going to make you less money than just betting up to it. Don't throw any back and just make another good bet.

                                                            If the games go off at the same time, then you can't do it individually with the parlay bet amounts, obviously.

                                                            But if it's open, or one game now, and then later, then you can bet it like a parlay and not be stuck with the last play. No need to build equity to give back on purpose. If things change, and you need to sell back, that's different. But entering the parlay with the intention of undoing a play can be unnecessary risk.

                                                            You stay in the game by controlling your risk, not settling out of your bets because you can walk away with some money. I see what you're saying, like I said, I get the concept, but it's a different mindset, for sure.

                                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                            ...You can't win parlays by focusing on math...
                                                            People end up losing money to parlays for one reason, they don't understand the math.

                                                            That's why books aren't advertising two picks with big bright signs on the board, it can be deadly to a pro bettor.
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                                                            • lakerboy
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 04-02-09
                                                              • 94379

                                                              #31
                                                              Majority of people who bet parlays are action junkies. They want to be involved in the whole board somehow.
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                                                              • Runeblade
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-29-17
                                                                • 2579

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                                The biggest one I ever hit was for 45k 9 teamer.

                                                                https://ibb.co/t4XwvhP
                                                                That's fukin awesome man...Grats!!
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                                                                • 5mike5
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 09-21-11
                                                                  • 52025

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                                                  Just don't bet -EV odds. Straight or parlayed. Problem solved.

                                                                  If you think they are +EV though, you are multiplying the +EVs by each other using a parlay.
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                                    • 83686

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Cause it's better then playing the State lotto and scratcher tickets if you have a pipe dream of hitting it big one day.

                                                                    Huge multi team Poorlays can hit more often then the lotto anyways..
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #35
                                                                      People always bet parlays always remember the average Gamblers a massive sucker
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