Receiving bitcoin from a gambling site - does it get reported to IRS?

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  • EGrecu
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-15-21
    • 709

    #1
    Receiving bitcoin from a gambling site - does it get reported to IRS?
    If you receive bitcoin and withdraw the money to your bank account, are you liable for taxes?
  • BeatTheJerk
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-19-07
    • 31794

    #2
    We don’t discuss that on here, do your own internal research & make the decision that best fits your personal situation.
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    • EGrecu
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 09-15-21
      • 709

      #3
      Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
      We don’t discuss that on here, do your own internal research & make the decision that best fits your personal situation.
      I can't seem to find any real answers


      it says coinbase reports to IRS when you have gains of 600 but receiving and withdrawing immediately is no gain at all, right?
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      • A4K
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-08-12
        • 5243

        #4
        Originally posted by EGrecu
        I can't seem to find any real answers


        it says coinbase reports to IRS when you have gains of 600 but receiving and withdrawing immediately is no gain at all, right?
        The transactions over $600 will get reported but it doesn't necessarily mean that you owe tax. When you do your taxes you can show that money in and money out did not produce a profit. I wouldn't concern yourself with it unless you are doing massive amounts of transactions.
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        • mjsuax13
          Moderator
          • 03-14-15
          • 25115

          #5
          Based on your posting history you need a lawyer and an accountant.
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          • EGrecu
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-15-21
            • 709

            #6
            Originally posted by A4K
            The transactions over $600 will get reported but it doesn't necessarily mean that you owe tax. When you do your taxes you can show that money in and money out did not produce a profit. I wouldn't concern yourself with it unless you are doing massive amounts of transactions.
            I thought online it said only gains over 600 dollars gets reported? So if I just take the money out immediately, it gets reported?


            either case you're saying it's not anything to worry about?
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            • Runeblade
              SBR MVP
              • 09-29-17
              • 2579

              #7
              The answer is yes.
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              • Fishhead
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-11-05
                • 40179

                #8
                ANY bank account transaction is traceable
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                • Fishhead
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-11-05
                  • 40179

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mjsuax13
                  Based on your posting history you need a lawyer and an accountant.
                  wow
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                  • d2bets
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 39995

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                    ANY bank account transaction is traceable
                    Any transaction on the internet is traceable.
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                    • gauchojake
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                      • 09-17-10
                      • 34116

                      #11
                      Let's assume you're a loser

                      Check with your tax professional

                      Write the losses against the wins
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                      • KVB
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 05-29-14
                        • 74817

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EGrecu
                        I can't seem to find any real answers...
                        I find that hard to believe. It's pretty clear.

                        Track all your transactions, gains, and losses, and be ready to report them to the IRS.

                        Like I said, the answers are verly clear, and can be found in many places. There is not some elusive secret here.

                        Don't ask any more questions here, ask a tax advisor. This is not a tax site.

                        Good Luck

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                        • gauchojake
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                          • 09-17-10
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                          #13
                          Big bear gets us Everytime!!
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            small amounts no

                            Just withdraw on a bitcoin card in cash and no worries
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                            • JacketFan81
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-28-17
                              • 1742

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jjgold
                              small amounts no

                              Just withdraw on a bitcoin card in cash and no worries
                              exactly this
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                              • EGrecu
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 09-15-21
                                • 709

                                #16
                                Originally posted by A4K
                                The transactions over $600 will get reported but it doesn't necessarily mean that you owe tax. When you do your taxes you can show that money in and money out did not produce a profit. I wouldn't concern yourself with it unless you are doing massive amounts of transactions.
                                also how do you show that you didn't produce a profit when you're getting the Bitcoin from off shore website? how do you prove how much you paid for it?
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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  small amounts no

                                  Just withdraw on a bitcoin card in cash and no worries
                                  Not true.

                                  No matter what you do you have to keep track and report your activity.

                                  That's the official Forum stance. Don't avoid taxes using bitcoin and don't let bitcoin transactions lead you to messing up your taxes.

                                  Gold we don't discuss the US tax situation at SBR unless it's to say pay your taxes, don't cheat, and, most importantly, ask a tax advisor, even that just means using software.

                                  Which shift JJ is that anyway?
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                                  • KVB
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 05-29-14
                                    • 74817

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by EGrecu
                                    also how do you show that you didn't produce a profit when you're getting the Bitcoin from off shore website? how do you prove how much you paid for it?
                                    Keep a record of your transaction. You bought the BTC, you paid a price.

                                    Now the next event to matter will be when you sell the BTC.

                                    If you sent it too a book, made a profit betting, then send it back and sell for either a higher value, or just plain more BTC, then there is no issue.

                                    Report your offshore gambling, keep track of all those trades too.

                                    It is very, very simple in both concept and execution.
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                                    • Machba
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-08-19
                                      • 6774

                                      #19
                                      In NYS anything over $600 is taxed, so check local state laws.
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                                      • EGrecu
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 09-15-21
                                        • 709

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                        Keep a record of your transaction. You bought the BTC, you paid a price.

                                        Now the next event to matter will be when you sell the BTC.

                                        If you sent it too a book, made a profit betting, then send it back and sell for either a higher value, or just plain more BTC, then there is no issue.

                                        Report your offshore gambling, keep track of all those trades too.

                                        It is very, very simple in both concept and execution.

                                        I'm so confused

                                        say you sent 5K to a book to gamble with and then wok 10K. You're getting 5K more in Bitcoin than you sent... so you would be taxed on the 5K right?

                                        and in my case I won 20K after depositing with a credit card, how does that work?
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          Just get a BitPay card God
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                                          • KVB
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 05-29-14
                                            • 74817

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by EGrecu
                                            I'm so confused

                                            say you sent 5K to a book to gamble with and then wok 10K. You're getting 5K more in Bitcoin than you sent... so you would be taxed on the 5K right?

                                            and in my case I won 20K after depositing with a credit card, how does that work?
                                            What do you mean how does that work? What do you mean you're confused?

                                            It can't be any more plain and simple than it is.

                                            If you made a profit, report it, and have records of all the transactions you made.

                                            It's simple.
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                                            • EGrecu
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 09-15-21
                                              • 709

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by KVB
                                              What do you mean how does that work? What do you mean you're confused?

                                              It can't be any more plain and simple than it is.

                                              If you made a profit, report it, and have records of all the transactions you made.

                                              It's simple.

                                              my only question is if you get 2500 worth of Bitcoin from a sportsbook, sell it and withdraw the money - does that get reported to IRS?

                                              online it says gains over 600 dollars are reported to IRS. Is that considered a gain?
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                                              • KVB
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-29-14
                                                • 74817

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by EGrecu
                                                my only question is if you get 2500 worth of Bitcoin from a sportsbook, sell it and withdraw the money - does that get reported to IRS?

                                                online it says gains over 600 dollars are reported to IRS. Is that considered a gain?
                                                Yes, if you plan to report your cypto transactions or made money, then yes.

                                                Don't worry about what an individual exchange might be doing. If you're worried enough about taxes to even start a thread like this, then track your shit and report it.

                                                Go talk to a tax advisor.

                                                Read the second post in this thread, the first reply.

                                                Quit beating a dead horse.

                                                Post a play. You like anything in the world series? Are we at the world series yet? As long as LAD didn't make it their I'm good.

                                                Who's playing in the world series?
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  If you’re looking for inaccurate information you’ definitely read this thread
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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    If you’re looking for inaccurate information you’ definitely read this thread
                                                    Or ask tax advice, medical advice, etc with a PT thread.

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                                                    • EGrecu
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 09-15-21
                                                      • 709

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by KVB
                                                      Yes, if you plan to report your cypto transactions or made money, then yes.

                                                      Don't worry about what an individual exchange might be doing. If you're worried enough about taxes to even start a thread like this, then track your shit and report it.

                                                      Go talk to a tax advisor.

                                                      Read the second post in this thread, the first reply.

                                                      Quit beating a dead horse.

                                                      Post a play. You like anything in the world series? Are we at the world series yet? As long as LAD didn't make it their I'm good.

                                                      Who's playing in the world series?

                                                      dude if the crypto wallet reports it, you have to report it or you will get in trouble

                                                      do any of the crypto wallets not report it?
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                                                      • KVB
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 05-29-14
                                                        • 74817

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        If you’re looking for inaccurate information you’ definitely read this thread
                                                        Common Gold, read his question...

                                                        Originally posted by EGrecu
                                                        If you receive bitcoin and withdraw the money to your bank account, are you liable for taxes?
                                                        I filed a shit ton of crypto transactions. Also used a card.

                                                        But they want to know.

                                                        But this dude is actually putting it in is bank account and wondering if he's liable. He's not doing one of a million things to avoid it, he's just putting it in his bank account and wondering if there's potential liability.

                                                        Common man.

                                                        At least I'm telling him to track to possibly eliminate that liability. Any other advise would just be unwise to post in the thread.
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                                                        • KVB
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 05-29-14
                                                          • 74817

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by EGrecu
                                                          dude if the crypto wallet reports it, you have to report...
                                                          Dude if you made a transaction you have to report it. The requirement is the requirement.

                                                          If you're looking for advice on how to cheat on your taxes we're trying to tell you to not do that in a thread in the Forum.

                                                          If you're that worried about taxes, if you think you're in a position to get audited, then just report everything you do. You'll sleep easier at night.

                                                          Consult a tax advisor. Ask the exchanges you seek to use themselves.

                                                          Good Luck.

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                                                          • Mr KLC
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 12-19-07
                                                            • 31097

                                                            #30
                                                            I'm starting to think this guy is an IRS employee trying to get posters to admit they are tax cheats. Sigh...the Biden era.
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                                                            • mjsuax13
                                                              Moderator
                                                              • 03-14-15
                                                              • 25115

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                                              I'm starting to think this guy is an IRS employee trying to get posters to admit they are tax cheats. Sigh...the Biden era.
                                                              Doubt it. He works too hard to be an IRS employee under the Biden Administration.
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                                                              • EGrecu
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 09-15-21
                                                                • 709

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by KVB
                                                                Dude if you made a transaction you have to report it. The requirement is the requirement.

                                                                If you're looking for advice on how to cheat on your taxes we're trying to tell you to not do that in a thread in the Forum.

                                                                If you're that worried about taxes, if you think you're in a position to get audited, then just report everything you do. You'll sleep easier at night.

                                                                Consult a tax advisor. Ask the exchanges you seek to use themselves.

                                                                Good Luck.

                                                                so if I take the money out and sell it, this will get reported to Bitcoin? even if I do it immediately?
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  KVB fairly accurate but not an expert
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                                                                  • thechaoz
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-23-09
                                                                    • 12154

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Maybe if you take it to coinbase but just get an private wallet like electrum
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                                                                    • BeatTheJerk
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 08-19-07
                                                                      • 31794

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by EGrecu
                                                                      so if I take the money out and sell it, this will get reported to Bitcoin? even if I do it immediately?
                                                                      Yes pay your bleeping taxes dude.
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