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  • ReubinSPolardy
    SBR Rookie
    • 08-15-17
    • 17

    #701
    Originally posted by KVB
    Does this thread, or any other thread about the recent SBR change have any value or info?

    You guys seem so invested in what's going on, so full of speculation and some desire to guess right.

    I hope you find what you're looking for.
    SBR starts wiping out all traces of offshore books, totally castrates the most important odds page into worthless dust and then offers an explanation worthy of a cheap politician. Of course the only option is to speculate.

    Occam's Razor says SBR received a cash infusion from the competition of what was removed. Namely offshore books that US citizens have access to. All traces of better sports gambling options for US citizens have no place in a world run by Caesars, DRaft Kings, Fanduel, William Hill.

    SBR was probably offered less than the cost of one commercial. Those prime time nationally televised commercials come from loads of cash received from totally blind US players who have no idea what real odds are.

    The hatchet odds available at the aforementioned Sportsbooks are stacked so much in favor of the house that no normal gambler has a chance of ever winning money. That's a fact.
    It's really not that hard to figure out.
    Last edited by ReubinSPolardy; 10-25-21, 05:02 PM.
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    • ReubinSPolardy
      SBR Rookie
      • 08-15-17
      • 17

      #702
      At Fanduel you can pay more money to bet the Astros or receive less money taking the Braves as a dog.

      FanDuel
      ATL +116
      HOU -136


      Heritage
      ATL +120
      HOU -129


      This is why the new brass at SBR has removed the offshore odds. No one in their right mind plays at DraftKings or FD or any US based sportsbook when you can play at much better better offshore places.

      Have you seen the commercials recently about "same game parlays" like they were just invented by US sportsbooks? Have you seen the payouts? Not that I'm a parlay player but....

      Why do I care?

      Because US based players would come here to the odds or forum and see options like Bovada, Heritage, YouWager, Bookmaker etc... and play there.

      Now they will come here and see William Hill or other US based sportsbooks and play there.

      Why does that matter? Because the more players at a given sportsbook the bigger the handle and the bigger the profit for the sportsbook. There will be more liquidity and less limiting on players or scrutinizing the action of decent players. If a sportsbook is rolling in the cash a handful of players making a few grand a week is not even noticed.

      All the noobs coming here to SBR now will be corralled over to a crap US based sportsbook where no serious player plays.

      Sharp players at the offshore outlets will be "noticed" more.
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #703
        Indeed Reubin, at one point we are just beating a dead horse with this topic.

        It is what it is.

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        • Roger T. Bannon
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 06-28-18
          • 5139

          #704
          KVB lecturing on useless posts when he has 73,000.
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          • Fishhead
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-11-05
            • 40179

            #705
            GREAT TIME TO BE ALIVE

            -SMOKE-
            Worldwide punter
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            • pavyracer
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-12-07
              • 82486

              #706
              Originally posted by ReubinSPolardy
              SBR starts wiping out all traces of offshore books, totally castrates the most important odds page into worthless dust and then offers an explanation worthy of a cheap politician. Of course the only option is to speculate.

              Occam's Razor says SBR received a cash infusion from the competition of what was removed. Namely offshore books that US citizens have access to. All traces of better sports gambling options for US citizens have no place in a world run by Caesars, DRaft Kings, Fanduel, William Hill.

              SBR was probably offered less than the cost of one commercial. Those prime time nationally televised commercials come from loads of cash received from totally blind US players who have no idea what real odds are.

              The hatchet odds available at the aforementioned Sportsbooks are stacked so much in favor of the house that no normal gambler has a chance of ever winning money. That's a fact.
              It's really not that hard to figure out.
              When Facebook, Amazon, Walmart or Google buy a new company a lot of times is to shut down their services. So someone who does not like offshore odds, like a US based book, may have bought SBR for the sole purpose of shutting down their offshore odds service.

              A lot of business decisions are not made for the good of the people that use the service but for the good of the stockholders or executives.
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              • KVB
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #707
                Originally posted by Fishhead
                GREAT TIME TO BE ALIVE

                -SMOKE-
                Worldwide punter
                Yes Fishhead, nothing but positives here. The great thing is nothing has changed, there is just more opportunity.

                Those that feel they have lost something didn't have much to lose to begin with.

                The rest of us will just continue to separate ourseles from the pack.

                It becomes about knowledge and with that there are haves, and have nots.

                It becomes more and more clear who is who in these threads.

                Like I said before, Lakeshow was right.
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                • gauchojake
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 09-17-10
                  • 34103

                  #708
                  We are winning
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                  • Fishhead
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-11-05
                    • 40179

                    #709
                    Originally posted by KVB
                    Yes Fishhead, nothing but positives here. The great thing is nothing has changed, there is just more opportunity.

                    Those that feel they have lost something didn't have much to lose to begin with.

                    The rest of us will just continue to separate ourseles from the pack.

                    It becomes about knowledge and with that there are haves, and have nots.

                    It becomes more and more clear who is who in these threads.

                    Like I said before, Lakeshow was right.
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                    • Fishhead
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-11-05
                      • 40179

                      #710
                      Originally posted by gauchojake
                      We are winning
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388189

                        #711
                        We got 37 USA books that want to come here now
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                        • Fishhead
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-11-05
                          • 40179

                          #712
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          We got 37 USA books that want to come here now
                          Give it a rest
                          you're pissing off a nation
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                          • RudyRuetigger
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 65086

                            #713
                            this thread has been derailed so many times


                            i think there are a few valid DIFFERENT points raised


                            betpoints are actually a currency


                            did the Terms and CONDITIONS change?



                            I dont want a mod to come in and defend sbr


                            OWNER ONLY
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                            • Fishhead
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-11-05
                              • 40179

                              #714
                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                              this thread has been derailed so many times


                              i think there are a few valid DIFFERENT points raised


                              betpoints are actually a currency


                              did the Terms and CONDITIONS change?



                              I dont want a mod to come in and defend sbr


                              OWNER ONLY
                              If new owners don't step up by Halloween, they are TOAST
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                              • RudyRuetigger
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-24-10
                                • 65086

                                #715
                                Originally posted by Fishhead
                                If new owners don't step up by Halloween, they are TOAST
                                i have a theory on that



                                however.....all of my other theories have come true....yet i get shit from sbr posters still


                                makes no sense
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                                • Roger T. Bannon
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-28-18
                                  • 5139

                                  #716
                                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                  this thread has been derailed so many times


                                  i think there are a few valid DIFFERENT points raised


                                  betpoints are actually a currency


                                  did the Terms and CONDITIONS change?



                                  I dont want a mod to come in and defend sbr


                                  OWNER ONLY
                                  Owner: We reserve the right to remove points from all accounts.
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                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-24-10
                                    • 65086

                                    #717
                                    Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                    Owner: We reserve the right to remove points from all accounts.
                                    if it turns out you are part owner of the "new" sbr, you are screwed
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                                    • Roger T. Bannon
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-28-18
                                      • 5139

                                      #718
                                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                      if it turns out you are part owner of the "new" sbr, you are screwed
                                      I have offered my services for $60,000 per year. I did it for a reason.
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                                      • RudyRuetigger
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 08-24-10
                                        • 65086

                                        #719
                                        Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                        I have offered my services for $60,000 per year. I did it for a reason.
                                        do you want me to try to get your points cash out refunded so you will quit stalking me?


                                        I think thats a bad idea on your part, but i will if you want me to
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                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-24-10
                                          • 65086

                                          #720
                                          im dead serious, i will ask for your points refunded immediately



                                          you let me know, and consider it done
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                                          • Roger T. Bannon
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 06-28-18
                                            • 5139

                                            #721
                                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                            do you want me to try to get your points cash out refunded so you will quit stalking me?


                                            I think thats a bad idea on your part, but i will if you want me to
                                            I already said I don't care if they pay me or not. If they are going to continue with the current arrangement, I will be happy. If not, I don't care.
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                                            • Fishhead
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-11-05
                                              • 40179

                                              #722
                                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                              do you want me to try to get your points cash out refunded so you will quit stalking me?


                                              I think thats a bad idea on your part, but i will if you want me to
                                              youre destroying this ghost
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                                              • firedawg
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 10-08-08
                                                • 39219

                                                #723
                                                Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                youre destroying this ghost
                                                confirmed two days ago
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                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                  • 65086

                                                  #724
                                                  Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                  youre destroying this ghost
                                                  fish you know more about offshore happenings than me TIMES 10


                                                  you just dont say them publicly



                                                  i hope you get paid HANDSOMELY when you finally spill the beans



                                                  YOU ARE LETTING MANY PEOPLE DOWN IN THE MEANTIME THOUGH
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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #725
                                                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                    youre destroying this ghost
                                                    Originally posted by firedawg
                                                    confirmed two days ago
                                                    Destroyed 2 days ago and been getting destroyed since.

                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    Bannon seems like he has an eighth grade education
                                                    Sorry, couldn't help it.

                                                    Carry on. It's dinner time.

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                                                    • Roger T. Bannon
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-28-18
                                                      • 5139

                                                      #726
                                                      Useless post 73,271.
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                                                      • Fishhead
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 08-11-05
                                                        • 40179

                                                        #727
                                                        Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                                        Useless post 73,271.
                                                        Translation

                                                        you're a BIGTIME LOSER
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                                                        • firedawg
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 10-08-08
                                                          • 39219

                                                          #728
                                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                                          Destroyed 2 days ago and been getting destroyed since.



                                                          Sorry, couldn't help it.

                                                          Carry on. It's dinner time.

                                                          lmao
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                                                          • Roger T. Bannon
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-28-18
                                                            • 5139

                                                            #729
                                                            Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                            Translation

                                                            you're a BIGTIME LOSER
                                                            Well you and KVB can only bet a number so you would stick together.
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                                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 08-24-10
                                                              • 65086

                                                              #730
                                                              Originally posted by KVB
                                                              Destroyed 2 days ago and been getting destroyed since.



                                                              Sorry, couldn't help it.

                                                              Carry on. It's dinner time.

                                                              im not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me


                                                              let me know so i know what to respond


                                                              THANK YOU
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                                                              • RudyRuetigger
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 08-24-10
                                                                • 65086

                                                                #731
                                                                Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                                                Well you and KVB can only bet a number so you would stick together.
                                                                it makes no sense for kvb and fishhead to agree


                                                                thats why im wondering what they are doing



                                                                are you that much of a fukkin moron????????????
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                                                                • Roger T. Bannon
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-28-18
                                                                  • 5139

                                                                  #732
                                                                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                  it makes no sense for kvb and fishhead to agree


                                                                  thats why im wondering what they are doing



                                                                  are you that much of a fukkin moron????????????
                                                                  They bet the same way.

                                                                  I think you might be right about KVB though. He might be on the payroll.
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                                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                                    • 65086

                                                                    #733
                                                                    Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                                                    They bet the same way.

                                                                    I think you might be right about KVB though. He might be on the payroll.
                                                                    ive been right about many things sherlock


                                                                    im not going that far just yet.............. to make a post about it
                                                                    so relax cowboy



                                                                    but kvb came on a bit too strong lately


                                                                    he might be part owner here





                                                                    SBR DIDNT SELL


                                                                    THEY SPLIT




                                                                    TIME MODS KNEW THAT
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                                                                    • Fishhead
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 08-11-05
                                                                      • 40179

                                                                      #734
                                                                      Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                                                      Well you and KVB can only bet a number so you would stick together.
                                                                      ya, numbers mean nothing in this business, LOL
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                                                                      • RudyRuetigger
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 08-24-10
                                                                        • 65086

                                                                        #735
                                                                        Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                                        ya, numbers mean nothing in this business, LOL
                                                                        you come back once per year around this time



                                                                        this time seems different


                                                                        what are you up to fish???????????????
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