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  • manny24
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-22-07
    • 20046

    #281
    Originally posted by Brock Landers
    There's NO PRO to this move you fuckin shill
    pay Bobby d*kkhead
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    • stake1
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-19-18
      • 18116

      #282
      Originally posted by manny24
      pay Bobby d*kkhead
      Have to think broke's days at Sbr are numbered.
      you think Dk's and FanDuel's and Mgm's and Caesar's want a known "check kiting conman" posting at a gambling forum, where they are paying to advertise?
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      • mjsuax13
        Moderator
        • 03-14-15
        • 24797

        #283
        Originally posted by Orbison
        any idea to whom?
        TGG: The Gruden Group. He always had a plan!
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        • Brock Landers
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 06-30-08
          • 45360

          #284
          Originally posted by manny24
          pay Bobby d*kkhead
          Suck my **** guy
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          • Mr. Teaser
            SBR MVP
            • 08-16-09
            • 1668

            #285
            SBR is not showing odds saying because I'm in New Jersey but I am NOT in New Jersey. No where close actually.
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            • stake1
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-19-18
              • 18116

              #286
              Originally posted by Brock Landers
              Suck my c ock guy

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              • Orbison
                SBR MVP
                • 09-07-20
                • 4692

                #287
                Originally posted by stake1
                Roy: does not matter. if you look at that site? it is 100% awful. only good thing about it is broke landers is perma-banned there
                Their main forum's first page? it has threads from this past tuesday
                place is a graveyard and their sport sub forums are also in awful shape
                you're probably right friend. guess i was hoping a different forum could take over the offshore business from here

                and i don't know if they're having major tech issues right now(?), but i haven't even been able to fully load their site the past couple days. it's just been showing a white screen with all these individual blue links but everything is all screwed up
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                • sweep
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-09-10
                  • 16753

                  #288
                  Those that cannot adapt will be left behind like wounded animals
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388189

                    #289
                    Originally posted by sweep
                    Those that cannot adapt will be left behind like wounded animals
                    sweeper called this he was right
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                    • BIGDAY
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 02-17-10
                      • 48245

                      #290
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                      • Fishhead
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-11-05
                        • 40179

                        #291
                        Originally posted by Brock Landers
                        Suck my **** guy
                        WOW
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                        • carolinakid
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-12-11
                          • 19106

                          #292
                          only ones that going to be wounded are the sheep that follow a bs sales pitch, that is nothing more than about money
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                          • carolinakid
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-12-11
                            • 19106

                            #293
                            prove me wrong down the road!!
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                            • gshock1
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-04-09
                              • 5366

                              #294
                              I wonder what happens to the top offshores? Will they be hurting in a few years for US based customers? Honestly, i am concerned. This blows
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #295
                                Originally posted by gshock1
                                I wonder what happens to the top offshores? Will they be hurting in a few years for US based customers? Honestly, i am concerned. This blows
                                No, they have a lot of worldwide business, doubt the big ones ever start "hurting" unless they start radically mismanaging the book.
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                                • carolinakid
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-12-11
                                  • 19106

                                  #296
                                  ^^^^^^100% correct imo, i doubt these usa books will have the games these top offshore books have with games around the world and the many ways you can bet them
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                                  • thechaoz
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-23-09
                                    • 12155

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by carolinakid
                                    only ones that going to be wounded are the sheep that follow a bs sales pitch, that is nothing more than about money
                                    A business opportunity has arisen. One that wouldn't even compete with sbr since they have left a key component of their business model.

                                    Not saying financially a bad decision. Probably getting some nice checks, and we could get sportsbook cash back all that.

                                    REALLY sucks for the many not in legal states. I know many 5 figure betters who still have to use offshore.

                                    Shit. I mostly use off shore and am in NJ.
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                                    • Fishhead
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-11-05
                                      • 40179

                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                      Pros and cons to both

                                      We take the mid range approach now

                                      MRA.....my new name
                                      Just retire, don't bury yourself anymore , get out with a little skin.
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                                      • OVAKUL
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-16-17
                                        • 1537

                                        #299
                                        What does all of this mean? SBR supporting legal sporsbooks and cutting off offshore support/ads/odds?
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                                        • Brock Landers
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 06-30-08
                                          • 45360

                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by OVAKUL
                                          What does all of this mean? SBR supporting legal sporsbooks and cutting off offshore support/ads/odds?
                                          Yep

                                          Complete stupidity at it's finest
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                                          • super mario 48
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 10-01-20
                                            • 830

                                            #301
                                            I'd like to renew PRO, I used 5dimes account register last year.

                                            If I deposit to it now, does it count? I can't create pinnacle or sportsinteraction
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                                            • The General
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 13279

                                              #302
                                              "USA wagering is spreading way more rapidly than anybody thought"



                                              False, very false....
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                                              • dhristov211
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-18-15
                                                • 2533

                                                #303
                                                Are there any other books like Pinnacle who are hard to beat but dont limit winners? In the US Market?
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                                                • searanchdude
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 08-10-17
                                                  • 137

                                                  #304
                                                  Well, this reminds me of the old saying "If you're not paying for the product, then you ARE the product." As a capitalist, I respect SBR's right to go where the money is. Their competence is apparent and because of that I'm pretty sure this was a smart move for them.

                                                  But like many here, I live in a state that doesn't support real online sports betting. These daily fantasy sports sites are a different type of opportunity, but I haven't figured out a way to reliably make money on that yet. Not sure if it's possible. It doesn't look like real online sports betting will be available in my state for at least 2 years. There are millions in my situation, so somebody is going to fill the void and offer what SBR once did.

                                                  It will take a while though. Most here are worried about the live odds. That I think is the easy part because it can be solved with technology. The hard part is for someone to fill the credibility void. I'm not sure if there is comparable dispute resolution and clout with sportsbook ratings such as SBR had with offshore books. Sportsbooks would not want to risk being blacklisted by SBR nor having official SBR announcement of a bettor being stiffed. With that gone, sportsbooks may not be held accountable. Under the pressure of legalized US gambling, they might resort to corrupt practices. If I'm wrong and there are comparable rankings or dispute resolutions, let me know. From what I see, covers and bestamp are nowhere close.
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                                                  • compaqDikk
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 10-08-05
                                                    • 5699

                                                    #305
                                                    RIP jjgoldsports.com

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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388189

                                                      #306
                                                      classics find Compactor
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                                                      • ReubinSPolardy
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 08-15-17
                                                        • 17

                                                        #307
                                                        Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                        Yes, the classic SBR Odds page was the best. I never got used to the new one
                                                        Agreed. The new one's layout was horrible. Classic was so much better. Now its useless.
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                                                        • ReubinSPolardy
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 08-15-17
                                                          • 17

                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by gshock1
                                                          Just awful. I live in NJ and use Bookmaker and Heritage because they have great odds, fast payouts and accept high limits. I used to have BOL, but they stopped servicing NJ.

                                                          2 years ago i signed up with various US books in NJ and got limited to $25 real fast after i went on a sick run. These are marketing shops that cater to the recreational bettor and don't like winners. Bookmaker has never limited me.

                                                          This is a sad day.
                                                          I'm cut off completely @ DraftKings (Mentioned in a post in this thread above).

                                                          I agree exactly. The US based sportsbooks like Fanduel, Draft Kings and William Hill are set up only for players who have no clue that they are getting fleeced and are just throwing away money. And SBR is going to promote only them.

                                                          Tell us please, SBR brass: Why get rid of all of the books you had just last week from your odds page? This website is viewed by people all over the world. I am in NJ now because of COVID but will be returning back to my home in Mexico by December.

                                                          Think about two types of casino gamblers.
                                                          1.) the loser dummies playing the slots -and- roulette (the highest edge for the house). These are your DK, FD & William Hill players)
                                                          2.) the card counting Blackjack -and- Craps 3X Don't pass line players (biggest edges for the player). These guys are sharp and will play @ Heritage, YouWager, BetOnline

                                                          Anyone defending FD, DK and William Hill in the US as good places to play knows nothing about sports betting odds and vigorish and cannot be taken seriously.
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                                                          • big joe 1212
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 06-01-08
                                                            • 19379

                                                            #309
                                                            Originally posted by Mr. Teaser
                                                            SBR is not showing odds saying because I'm in New Jersey but I am NOT in New Jersey. No where close actually.
                                                            Same with me. I’m 100+ miles from NJ
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                                                            • ReubinSPolardy
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 08-15-17
                                                              • 17

                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by PharaohUB
                                                              Well that might be the dumbest post in the history of SBR.

                                                              Would you like to see the letters IRS sent me because I bought bitcoin on coinbase a few years back ? You don’t know who you can trust in that industry. And you have to be really careful. Fck alll that nonsense. Why deal with it when I don’t have to. Not to mention having to track and keep record of every transaction. The US books do that for me and don’t hide my betting history from me if it’s more than two weeks old. I’ve been into crypto since 2011 when you didn’t even know what it was. so you don’t need to lecture me boy.

                                                              Crypto most certainly is a pain in the ass. Over the years most of the convenient places to get Bitcoin quick have banned me for gambling with it. If I bust or win turning Bitcoin into cash and vice versa will easily cost me 10-15% in fees by the time I’m done with it and everyone gets their cut along the way. Maybe 5% if I want to wait a week. If I want to play a game and see a line I like at an onshore book I click a button and thirty seconds later my account is funded. No fees. No secret cut being taken by the book by taking whatever spot rate they want in Bitcoin. No BS.

                                                              The lines are just fine onshore Take a look sometime and stop talking out of your ass.

                                                              Please tell me one person who has reported being limited. I can find about 10 million offshore. Just one on SBR? Point me to post please ?

                                                              And you think Fanduel is going to run off with someone’s money to save a few bucks and risk the PR?

                                                              I mean based on your original post you have an IQ of about 7 so you probably don’t understand any of this.
                                                              I am cut off from DraftKings, post above in this thread.

                                                              " I’ve been into crypto since 2011 when you didn’t even know what it was" So how is it you never heard of DeFi or Dexes? 10%-15% on fees turning Bitcoin into cash? You're doing something wrong.
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                                                              • carolinakid
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-12-11
                                                                • 19106

                                                                #311
                                                                ^^^^^^^ you are spot on imo, a very good thread from you sir
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                                                                • Brock Landers
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 06-30-08
                                                                  • 45360

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Screw US books unless you're betting cash in person
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                                                                  • Roger T. Bannon
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 06-28-18
                                                                    • 5139

                                                                    #313
                                                                    This site is now most likely owned by a US sports betting outfit of one type or another. They want the site for strategic reasons, not necessarily because they think it will be profitable to operate, and they do not want their name associated with the site.

                                                                    The stuff going on here is not an accident. It is all very calculated.

                                                                    They are making a move on all offshore sports betting odds. There are going to be a lot of changes. This is not SBR anymore. It is something else.

                                                                    Good luck with the racist posts going forward. That is not something US books want anything to do with. It's a whole new ballgame.
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                                                                    • Smokey McPot
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 07-18-21
                                                                      • 190

                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by dhristov211
                                                                      Are there any other books like Pinnacle who are hard to beat but dont limit winners? In the US Market?
                                                                      Cantor was somewhat like that when Mike Colbert was running the show. He was much more interested in volume than hold percentage and even the sharper players had what I thought were incredibly high limits even on some limited markets. Of course there were some other things going on as well that cut that experiment short.

                                                                      It doesn’t affect me as my wagers are not at that level, but I know for a fact that Circa in LV at least for now has been allowing sharper players relatively high limits without cutting them down for merely winning. If you’re someone that’s into comps they are not the book for you, but they do seem like a pretty fair shop.
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                                                                      • pappy
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 08-18-10
                                                                        • 54

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Ignorance at its finest

                                                                        Site has become useless without the off-shore lines hate to see it but nothing surprises me anymore
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