SBR Top 5 books

[thomorino]

I just posted up a TwinSpires

Twinspires has some good promotion but they do a horrible job of marketing and advertising.

Draftkings has a good book but the main reason they are beating the competition is they are spending far more on marketing and advertising than their competitors, draftkings ads and promotions are everyhwere.

Draftkings is also giving bettors far more free money on their site than other companies because they have the budget to do so.

[Roger T. Bannon]

Oh wow. This is a major move. Strike 2.

[KVB]

Forgive me if this question is too harsh, but what’s the point of sportsbookreview.com?

There’s literally no need to review a regulated market and grade them, at least when it comes to security refunds payout policies etc.

An SBR complaint form seems to serve no purpose in the US where it’s regulated.

SBR might still have some purposes, but seems the main one has disappeared...grading the offshore books...though it does look like the blacklist is still up.

[thomorino]

Forgive me if this question is too harsh, but what’s the point of sportsbookreview.com?

There’s literally no need to review a regulated market and grade them, at least when it comes to security refunds payout policies etc.

An SBR complaint form seems to serve no purpose in the US where it’s regulated.

SBR might still have some purposes, but seems the main one has disappeared...grading the offshore books...though it does look like the blacklist is still up.

SBR is a company, and like all companies, the goal is to make money. The original purpose was to help players with offshore complaints, but now that SBR has a huge forum, the company can likely make more than enough money advertising and marketing, they don't need to focus on offshore complaints.

The goal of a company is to make money you dumb shit - processing offshore complaints was how SBR started, but the company already has enough users now they don't need to do that to make money.

SBR should be fine relying on marketing and advertising with affiliate agreements for major sportsbooks - whether they are offshore or legal and in the US.

[gauchojake]

Gauchy what is your top usa book?

I don't live in a state where sports betting is legal. If I'm in NV it's betfred all the way

[gauchojake]

How long till we are paid out on contests via zelle and filling out a 1099 G for winning points in the casino???? It's black Friday folks

[gauchojake]

I say that tongue in cheek and with some hyperbole but you know it's coming. This change has been in the works for a long time at SBR we were just too busy arguing to care.

[texhooper]

TEXHOOPER you may be 100% correct, as for me i will stick to the offshore here, just think now the usa can kept up down the road with your bet money for taxes, if i want to bet in state i will bet with my local bookie

I’ve said it here many times, I have the ability to bet onshore or offshore and I choose offshore wholeheartedly. Onshore blows as it is now. Maybe if Circa becomes more widespread that will be a viable option but just scroll like DraftKings or FanDuel lines, it takes 5 seconds to see that it’s a ripoff. And you can’t really buy or sell points at these places either, at least in my experience. For instance say you like SDSU tonight. Most places have it as -10 but at FanDuel they’re hanging -9.5 (-120) and you can’t even sell off to -10 to get some relief on the vig. Some poster in another thread referred to these places as “entertainment sites” and that’s one of the many reasons why to me. It’s just a way to take advantage of people looking for some action, not actually be bookmakers

[thomorino]

SBR obviously makes most of their money through advertising and marketing books they have affiliate agreements with. The names of the books and whether they are offshore or legal is likely irrelevant, except that I would think offshore books probably are more willing to pay higher rates for affiliate agreements.

[thomorino]

I’ve said it here many times, I have the ability to bet onshore or offshore and I choose offshore wholeheartedly. Onshore blows as it is now. Maybe if Circa becomes more widespread that will be a viable option but just scroll like DraftKings or FanDuel lines, it takes 5 seconds to see that it’s a ripoff. And you can’t really buy or sell points at these places either, at least in my experience. For instance say you like SDSU tonight. Most places have it as -10 but at FanDuel they’re hanging -9.5 (-120) and you can’t even sell off to -10 to get some relief on the vig. Some poster in another thread referred to these places as “entertainment sites” and that’s one of the many reasons why to me. It’s just a way to take advantage of people looking for some action, not actually be bookmakers

This is incorrect, most of draftkings lines are market lines, especially in the widely bet sports like the NFL.

If you shop around with legal books you will get a good line at a good price.

[KVB]

I think there’s more to it than that, I’ve seen other places similar to SBR that have gotten rid of all offshore information and only use stateside books. I don’t know the laws or regulations or whatever but it seems like these kinds of sites (SBR, etc) have to shed their affiliation with offshore in order to do business with onshore. And if this is true then it really is an end of an era here, and I wonder if they will even be able to help players with offshore disputes anymore (which was the whole point of this place)

This goes back to New Jersey, they fight like hell to get legalize sports betting but one of the laws requirements was that everything had to be regulated that was shown in the state. That means a website that even took ad revenue from offshore books or even showed an offshore ad could not be carried in or face New Jersey.

Many will notice that immediately websites like Vegas insider started showing “global odds and US odds, but couldn’t show offshore ads if they wanted to be in New Jersey. This is probably why everyone is getting the New Jersey notice, SBR covering the bases.

It’s all US regulation based.

[flyingillini]

I’m in Vietnam and all I see are US books.

[jjgold]

Is offshore getting squeezed out as far as advertising?

Where can they go anymore??

[Roger T. Bannon]

LOL. jjgold has reversed his positions now. Offshores are now doomed.

[jjgold]

They have no where to go

If a USA player searches sportsbooks it will revert to USA Books

Offshore might have to go underground now not a bad thing

[texhooper]

Forgive me if this question is too harsh, but what’s the point of sportsbookreview.com?

There’s literally no need to review a regulated market and grade them, at least when it comes to security refunds payout policies etc.

An SBR complaint form seems to serve no purpose in the US where it’s regulated.

SBR might still have some purposes, but seems the main one has disappeared...grading the offshore books...though it does look like the blacklist is still up.

By the letter of the URL and the whole spirit of what this place once was up until yesterday, I don’t see the point either. All US books are pretty much the same. Their apps are the same, lines are all pretty close (yeah you can shop and go from worse to bad but I digress), funding is all the same and pretty easy, just not much to resolve here. They’re all well funded and can’t just disappear or go under or get raided like beted or betislands or whatever, so safety’s really not a concern. I also doubt if a player has a concern that a legal book will care what SBR has to say anyway. “Oh so you’re one of the places that has click through ads on the internet and the racist forum, oh let me do what you say real quick, I’m so sorry, please continue to keep us in check please.”

[unde0087]

When did we get to vote????

[lakerboy]

Complaint forms? If you play at the right book you will never worry about that.

Give me the pinnacle opener on sbr odds and I'm happy. The USA books are just shadowing offshore anyway with a bit more juice.

Am I wrong?

[texhooper]

Nah laker anywhere can pull bullshit, especially if they wanna say you’re out of state or something. Among just general shit like “shot taking” and bets getting voided for this reason or that and whatnot

But your second paragraph, that’s mainly all I want too haha…oh well.

[jjgold]

Complaint forms? If you play at the right book you will never worry about that.

Give me the pinnacle opener on sbr odds and I'm happy. The USA books are just shadowing offshore anyway with a bit more juice.

Am I wrong?

correct

[Roger T. Bannon]

They have no where to go

If a USA player searches sportsbooks it will revert to USA Books

Offshore might have to go underground now not a bad thing

That is quite a switch. It is amazing how a new boss can change your perspective. That light at the end of the tunnel is not a train.

[5mike5]

That is quite a switch. It is amazing how a new boss can change your perspective. That light at the end of the tunnel is not a train.

[lakerboy]

Nah laker anywhere can pull bullshit, especially if they wanna say you’re out of state or something. Among just general shit like “shot taking” and bets getting voided for this reason or that and whatnot

But your second paragraph, that’s mainly all I want too haha…oh well.

Betonline gave me a hard time on betting everywhere. I explained what I do and even offered them more information to prove it. They politely declined and we kept going.

[jjgold]

Men if I owned an offshore sportsbook what is the strategy going forward??

How do you market when most portals all usa books now??

Now since I am the smartest guy here I would scour internet and find a site that gets good google traffic and caters to offshores


Men your lucky because I am a USA , Offshore and Broker expert

[Smoke]

sell outs

[Runeblade]

How fast are the payouts on these books?

[texhooper]

Betonline gave me a hard time on betting everywhere. I explained what I do and even offered them more information to prove it. They politely declined and we kept going.

There are no regulations when it comes to what BetOnline chooses to do. But if I’m in state X and in neighboring state Y sports betting is illegal, if they think for whatever reason that I was placing bets while in state Y they’re legally required to say “eff off” and void out my shit. Maybe I wasn’t actually in state Y though but their geo locater says I was, or maybe they think I’m cheating and pretending to be in legal state X, these are all things a third party investigation could aid with. I would think at least, I mean it’s all still pretty new.

That being said, I don’t think SBR is the entity that a legal sportsbook would listen to. Maybe that’s their goal though, to get to that level

[KVB]

Men if I owned an offshore sportsbook what is the strategy going forward??

How do you market when most portals all usa books now??

Now since I am the smartest guy here I would scour internet and find a site that gets good google traffic and caters to offshores


Men your lucky because I am a USA , Offshore and Broker expert

But when the books have to fight for our business, the bettors get the upper hand.

If US books don't have to compete with offshore, we still get a positive environment of competition, helping the bettors, but let's face it it's not nearly the same dynamic.

I don't give a fukk who you are, I am saying now, at the risk of infraction or ban, that I will send thousands to any of you, no matter the state, to open accounts, fund them, with bonuses, then await my further instructions.

I'm making a point here, obviously, I'm not going to be that reckless, but know I'm not the only one thinking and doing this.

The US books are going to be half beards at one point (exaggerating for you literal fukks), showing the difference between the haves and have nots.

I just hope the books will take the action.

There is money to be made here.

[LongBall52]

Neither Circa nor Thescorebet is on the radar for Virginia approval. I don't even know if they've applied for Va. That would be NICE to KNOW!

I feel bad for those living in a state where the ONLY choice is offshore. Likely legal books will be available in 30+ states in the next few years. I doubt Utah will ever do it.

[jjgold]

There’s gonna be a lot of maneuvering on both ends moving forward


I do think offshore hast to become more creative


I will be playing at both

Well I do player both actually funded at DraftKings FanDuel and Parx

KVB You would thrive with both

[texhooper]

KVB would get booted in a matter of hours onshore you bald fukk

[CanuckG]

Twinspires has some good promotion but they do a horrible job of marketing and advertising.

Draftkings has a good book but the main reason they are beating the competition is they are spending far more on marketing and advertising than their competitors, draftkings ads and promotions are everyhwere.

Draftkings is also giving bettors far more free money on their site than other companies because they have the budget to do so.

What should they do to improve?

[jjgold]

I get tons of promos from TwinSpires for horse racing and a lot of free Contests at least three days a week I just can’t win them


They deafly focus on horse racing

[stake1]

For me 100% offshore: Heritage sports, Uwager, Bookmaker and
Bas

[DontTailMe]

LOL. jjgold has reversed his positions now.

It's a weekday ending in "Y".