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  • carolinakid
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-12-11
    • 19106

    #1
    Pitching change for the Dodgers
    10/14/21 11:03:12am Pacific
    MLB: Game 971-972
    10/14 11:02 AM PDT

    MLB

    EVENT #971-972

    PITCHING CHANGE

    Los Angeles Dodgers - C KNEBEL -R for J URIAS -L
  • KiDBaZkiT
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-20-09
    • 14962

    #2
    Hope Bellinger takes a heater right in the face.
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    • Day Game 216
      SBR High Roller
      • 10-04-21
      • 195

      #3
      Dodgers going with the opener trying to throw the Giants off here

      the Giants righty bats went to bed thinking they were starting tonight

      only to find out they will be riding the pine

      opener is a decent strategy against teams who like to platoon
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        Dodgers look pretty easy here
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        • JIBBBY
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 12-10-09
          • 83686

          #5
          Pitching won't matter tonight as both teams will be using all the weapons from the pens the moment there are signs of trouble in this season ending elimination game.
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          • texhooper
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-05-09
            • 10001

            #6
            I mean Urias will still be available.

            But this opens the door for the Giants maybe to make a quick splash, maybe a quick little two run homer in the bottom of the first kinda thing while the Dodgers are trying this little fruity tactic.

            I’ve been looking for a damn reason to take the damn Giants and I don’t know maybe this is it. Maybe the gods are speaking to me
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            • carolinakid
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-12-11
              • 19106

              #7
              the line side and total really did not move on this change at all
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              • KVB
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                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #8
                I still like the Giants.

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                • Day Game 216
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                  • 10-04-21
                  • 195

                  #9
                  I would be shocked if Knebel gives up a run but he is only going to pitch 1 inning

                  Dodgers have some arms in the pen that are a little shakey

                  Beuhler and Mad Max are probably available for an inning
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                  • carolinakid
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                    • 01-12-11
                    • 19106

                    #10
                    a small lean to the under at this time for the 1st 5
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                    • stevenash
                      Moderator
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65619

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Day Game 216
                      the Giants righty bats went to bed thinking they were starting tonight

                      only to find out they will be riding the pine
                      opener is a decent strategy against teams who like to platoon
                      This is a ridiculous statement even by Big Bear's standards.

                      a) You do realize SF hits LHP and RHP equally
                      (.247 v. 250)

                      b) Like another 'dumb shit' poster that doesn't do their homework Knebel's OPS is .100 points WORSE vs. RH hitters in his career that vs. LH hitters.

                      It's what analytics guys call REVERSE PLATOON
                      (I can explain it to you if you wish).

                      c) Kapler is analytics guy, he knows this.
                      I bet you he stacks the top of the lineup with RIGHT HANDED hitters.
                      Why would he burn his LH hitters in a REVERSE PLATOON game.

                      This is the most likely scenario as to what is going to happen tonight.
                      Since the next time Knebel pitches more than two innings in any game will be his first time he pitches more than two innings in any one game you'll probably see Urias in the third inning.
                      If that's the case then Kapler can play mix and match with his LH bats.
                      Not before the third inning though.
                      And by then it may be to late if SF RH bats put up a couple of early scratch runs.

                      SF First five inning is the most logical wager.


                      Stop being a 'dumb shit'
                      Do some homework
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                      • lakerboy
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                        • 04-02-09
                        • 94379

                        #12
                        Giants TT over 1.5 first hf
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                        • texhooper
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                          • 01-05-09
                          • 10001

                          #13
                          Good stuff nasher
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                          • Brock Landers
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 06-30-08
                            • 45359

                            #14
                            Urias, unless injured, should pitch 2-6 innings
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                            • stevenash
                              Moderator
                              • 01-17-11
                              • 65619

                              #15
                              Originally posted by texhooper
                              Good stuff nasher
                              Thanks.

                              That's just the way I see it.
                              Hey, don't blindly tail me though, I've been wrong before.

                              It's just my analytical point of view is all.
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                              • stevenash
                                Moderator
                                • 01-17-11
                                • 65619

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                Urias, unless injured, should pitch 2-6 innings
                                I'm figuring innings three through six maybe?
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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                  Urias, unless injured, should pitch 2-6 innings
                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                  I'm figuring innings three through six maybe?
                                  But Dave Roberts is such a dumbass, and can be upredictable.





                                  Leggooo Giants!!!!
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65619

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                                    Hope Bellinger takes a heater right in the face.
                                    Love to see a Webb heater in Turner's ear myself.
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                                    • KiDBaZkiT
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-20-09
                                      • 14962

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                      Love to see a Webb heater in Turner's ear myself.
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                                      • KnuckleHeadz
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 12-11-19
                                        • 8194

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                        Love to see a Webb heater in Turner's ear myself.
                                        Easy on the Ginger Nash. Turner was kind enough to toss my daughter a game ball after the 2nd inning earlier this year
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                                        • stevenash
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65619

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by KnuckleHeadz
                                          Easy on the Ginger Nash. Turner was kind enough to toss my daughter a game ball after the 2nd inning earlier this year
                                          That's good for a Nasher brownie point.
                                          That's nice to hear.
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                                          • Brock Landers
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                                            • 06-30-08
                                            • 45359

                                            #22
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                                            • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                              • 01-02-12
                                              • 19734

                                              #23
                                              Well this just means Doyers backers get a better price
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                                              • stevenash
                                                Moderator
                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65619

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                Well this just means Doyers backers get a better price
                                                Eight cent move in the past hour
                                                (Heritage)
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                                                • Day Game 216
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 10-04-21
                                                  • 195

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                                  This is a ridiculous statement even by Big Bear's standards.

                                                  a) You do realize SF hits LHP and RHP equally
                                                  (.247 v. 250)

                                                  b) Like another 'dumb shit' poster that doesn't do their homework Knebel's OPS is .100 points WORSE vs. RH hitters in his career that vs. LH hitters.

                                                  It's what analytics guys call REVERSE PLATOON
                                                  (I can explain it to you if you wish).

                                                  c) Kapler is analytics guy, he knows this.
                                                  I bet you he stacks the top of the lineup with RIGHT HANDED hitters.
                                                  Why would he burn his LH hitters in a REVERSE PLATOON game.

                                                  This is the most likely scenario as to what is going to happen tonight.
                                                  Since the next time Knebel pitches more than two innings in any game will be his first time he pitches more than two innings in any one game you'll probably see Urias in the third inning.
                                                  If that's the case then Kapler can play mix and match with his LH bats.
                                                  Not before the third inning though.
                                                  And by then it may be to late if SF RH bats put up a couple of early scratch runs.

                                                  SF First five inning is the most logical wager.


                                                  Stop being a 'dumb shit'
                                                  Do some homework
                                                  you sure are cocky for a guy who took the White Sox and Brewers
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                                                  • yisman
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 09-01-08
                                                    • 75682

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                                    I'm figuring innings three through six maybe?
                                                    This is my guess.

                                                    Of course if Knebel struggles he wouldn't pitch 2, and if Urias struggles, he'd also have the quick hook.

                                                    But the plan going in is likely to get Knebel through 2 and then Urias through 6.

                                                    Using the opener doesn't really mean anything to me in this case. I'd still expect SF to roll with mostly RHBs to start.

                                                    Whether Urias went 1-4 and then a reliever or the reliever first and then Urias...

                                                    Almost the same thing.

                                                    Man, Belt and Muncy missing this series takes some of the shine off.

                                                    Belt even more important to SF than Muncy is to LA since LA is so stacked.


                                                    La Stella supposedly available off the bench tonight.
                                                    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                    [/quote]

                                                    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                    • stevenash
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65619

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Day Game 216
                                                      you sure are cocky for a guy who took the White Sox and Brewers
                                                      And you're still an idiot.
                                                      And yeah, but the word is confident, not cocky.
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                                                      • stevenash
                                                        Moderator
                                                        • 01-17-11
                                                        • 65619

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by yisman
                                                        This is my guess.

                                                        Of course if Knebel struggles he wouldn't pitch 2, and if Urias struggles, he'd also have the quick hook.

                                                        But the plan going in is likely to get Knebel through 2 and then Urias through 6.

                                                        Using the opener doesn't really mean anything to me in this case. I'd still expect SF to roll with mostly RHBs to start.

                                                        Whether Urias went 1-4 and then a reliever or the reliever first and then Urias...

                                                        Almost the same thing.

                                                        Man, Belt and Muncy missing this series takes some of the shine off.

                                                        Belt even more important to SF than Muncy is to LA since LA is so stacked.


                                                        La Stella supposedly available off the bench tonight.
                                                        Good points all.
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                                                        • MoneylineExpress
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-18-11
                                                          • 1439

                                                          #29
                                                          Surprising decision unless Urias is injured. Not starting a Cy Young candidate for a reliever in a winner takes all Game 5 is questionable. Curious what the strategy is here? Start Knebel for 1 or 2 innings, then bring in Urias? Roberts will look like a fool if this backfires in the 1st inning. On the Dodgers anyway.
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                                                          • KVB
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 05-29-14
                                                            • 74817

                                                            #30
                                                            We are stuffing with the Giants.

                                                            If I get got, I get got.
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                                                            • Day Game 216
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 10-04-21
                                                              • 195

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by MoneylineExpress
                                                              Surprising decision unless Urias is injured. Not starting a Cy Young candidate for a reliever in a winner takes all Game 5 is questionable. Curious what the strategy is here? Start Knebel for 1 or 2 innings, then bring in Urias? Roberts will look like a fool if this backfires in the 1st inning. On the Dodgers anyway.
                                                              these coaches try to be too cute sometimes

                                                              Rays dumbass manager should have started Michael Wacha the other day. He had just thrown a gem the last time out and he could’ve maybe given them 5 innings and saved their good bullpen arms for later

                                                              Also last year Braves coach pulled Ian Anderson after 2 innings in game 7 of the NLCS

                                                              dumb move

                                                              Traditional starters who throw deep into games is the winning formula
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                                                              • stevenash
                                                                Moderator
                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 65619

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Day Game 216
                                                                Traditional starters who throw deep into games is the winning formula
                                                                LAD doesn't have an innings eater available though tonight.

                                                                And yeah, I am also in the camp of seven inning eating starters, especially good ones is indeed a winning formula, and that was the where I began my handicapping when I bet CWS and MIL, it doesn't always work out, and it didn't this time.

                                                                Especially in the Brewers case.

                                                                SF first five money line is my bet tonight.
                                                                A tie after five is a no action push.

                                                                Listen, I don't think you're a bad fella, unlike some dumb shits around here, just take a breath sometimes and think.

                                                                If you like LA, then bet LA.
                                                                Best of luck.
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                                                                • LT Profits
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                                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                                  • 90963

                                                                  #33
                                                                  This is actually an excellent move by Roberts, the Giants employ the most platoons of any team, 4 or sometimes 5 of them.
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                                                                  • stevenash
                                                                    Moderator
                                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                                    • 65619

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                    This is actually an excellent move by Roberts, the Giants employ the most platoons of any team, 4 or sometimes 5 of them.
                                                                    The whole game is going to be Boris Spassky v. Bobby Fischer.
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                                                                    • Darkside Magick
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                                                                      • 05-28-10
                                                                      • 12638

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by KVB
                                                                      I still like the Giants.

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