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  • LongBall52
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    • 06-14-20
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    #1
    College Teams: If Cincinnati and ND end up with 1 loss each?
    Does Cincinnati make the playoffs because of beating ND? Or will they find some way to make ND get in, if possible?
    The announcer yesterday kinda wavered in his answer. Sounded like just pushing for more teams in the playoff..LOL!
  • Mac4Lyfe
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    • 01-04-09
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    #2
    Who would make the most money? There’s your answer.

    Cinci would get a nice consolation bowl. A non power 5 team is not getting in with 1 loss. The committee would take a 2 loss P5 first.
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    • Eddy Munny
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      • 08-13-13
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      #3
      If Cincy loses they're done, it's that simple.
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      • seaborneq
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        • 09-08-06
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        #4
        Cincinnati won't get in going undefeated. No chance at the 4 team playoff. Why are we falling for the Cinderella story again? If the shoe was a perfect fit why did it fall off the first time?
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        • Eddy Munny
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          #5
          Originally posted by seaborneq
          Cincinnati won't get in going undefeated. No chance at the 4 team playoff. Why are we falling for the Cinderella story again? If the shoe was a perfect fit why did it fall off the first time?
          I disagree, the Bearcats will get in if they keep their nose clean. The past is the past.
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          • Easy-Rider 66
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            #6
            Originally posted by Eddy Munny
            I disagree, the Bearcats will get in if they keep their nose clean. The past is the past.
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            • thetrinity
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              • 01-25-11
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              #7
              they will get in this time if they go undefeated

              they were also undefeated last regular season

              plus, probably 1 more undefeated team only once the championship games are done
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              • pokerdevil
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                • 04-20-16
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                #8
                While it's interesting to think ahead, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Way too many undefeated teams rn and we also don't know how good that win over ND will look in 2 months.

                I agree that Cincy has to go undefeated to have a chance but I think it's impossible to quantify their playoff odds given they uphold their end of the bargain
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                • jjgold
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                  • 07-20-05
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                  #9
                  It’s statistically impossible basically that both end up with one loss they’re not really great teams especially Notre Dame
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                  • KiDBaZkiT
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                    • 10-20-09
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                    #10
                    Even if Cinci stays undefeated they better not get in. Outside of an overrated ND team they have nothing but tomato cans on their schedule.
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                    • jtoler
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                      #11
                      An undefeated Cindy gets in because of preseason ranking I made posts about this a couple years ago. When ucf had great yr beat auburn in bowl game and finish season ranked 6. Fast forward preseason following they are ranked 22 which was bs. That’s how u screw the middies u place them down far enough so no matter wut they do it’s impossible to make the climb. This yr cincy preseason ranked 8 so not too far to climb scheduling indiana and dame is huge for them and to beat them too.
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                      • Eddy Munny
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                        • 08-13-13
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by jtoler
                        An undefeated Cindy gets in because of preseason ranking I made posts about this a couple years ago. When ucf had great yr beat auburn in bowl game and finish season ranked 6. Fast forward preseason following they are ranked 22 which was bs. That’s how u screw the middies u place them down far enough so no matter wut they do it’s impossible to make the climb. This yr cincy preseason ranked 8 so not too far to climb scheduling indiana and dame is huge for them and to beat them too.
                        Yep, even though the Indiana win is looking less impressive, they took care of business on the road against both P5 schools, including handing ND their first defeat. Like you said, their preseason ranking puts them in position to wedge their way into the playoffs because other teams are going to lose, it's inevitable.
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                        • jtoler
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                          Yep, even though the Indiana win is looking less impressive, they took care of business on the road against both P5 schools, including handing ND their first defeat. Like you said, their preseason ranking puts them in position to wedge their way into the playoffs because other teams are going to lose, it's inevitable.
                          yep and with cincy only losing by 3 to uga in peach bowl with cincy leading 21-10 going into 4th qtr they ingratiated themselves enough with viewers and satisfied enough big wigs that they can carry the ratings lol. but seriously they are strong even though I think last year they were stronger
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                          • Day Game 216
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                            • 10-04-21
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                            Even if Cinci stays undefeated they better not get in. Outside of an overrated ND team they have nothing but tomato cans on their schedule.
                            My thoughts exactly.

                            and if they have a problem with it Cincinnati should join the B1G
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                            • Day Game 216
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                              • 10-04-21
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                              #15
                              No chance in hell Cincinnati makes the playoff over a 1 loss B1G champion or a 1 loss Big 12 Champion
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                              • RM Logic
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                                • 12-09-13
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                                #16
                                No way does Cinci get in if Ohio State runs the table. They would have wins over Penn State, Michigan, MSU and Iowa- all top 15 teams.
                                Cinci has just a garbage schedule left.
                                And ND isnt very good at all. They could easily lose 3-4 games.
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                                • Day Game 216
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by RM Logic
                                  No way does Cinci get in if Ohio State runs the table. They would have wins over Penn State, Michigan, MSU and Iowa- all top 15 teams.
                                  Cinci has just a garbage schedule left.
                                  And ND isnt very good at all. They could easily lose 3-4 games.
                                  Exactly
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                                  • TommieGunshot
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pokerdevil
                                    I agree that Cincy has to go undefeated to have a chance but I think it's impossible to quantify their playoff odds given they uphold their end of the bargain
                                    It is extremely easy to quantify those odds. Just look at whatever numbers the sportsbooks have on that prop.
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                                    • texhooper
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                                      • 01-05-09
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                                      #19
                                      Neither will get in. ND won’t run the table from here on out anyway and a lot of things will still have to bounce Cincinnati’s way even if they’re undefeated.

                                      First of all, since it was brought up, the AP poll has nothing to do with the CFP so if they want to bury Cincy back a little in their initial CFP poll they can. And they probably will be justified to do so by November anyway. And ultimately by the end of the year there will be too many scenarios that will win out over even an undefeated AAC team getting in. And honestly they don’t have to bury them that much initially because it will be easy to jump Cincinnati at any point as real teams do real things meanwhile Cincinnati beats Eastern Cincinnati or whatever bullshit team they play that week. Like for instance if Michigan and Michigan State are both undefeated in three weeks when they play, if the winner is still behind Cincinnati they will jump Cincinnati who played Tulane that week.

                                      So let’s say Bama and Georgia are in, and the Big Ten will get a slot, so there’s only one more spot to fill. And if the Big 12 has a one loss or undefeated champ there’s your fourth slot. It’s probably as simple as that honestly. But if we want to dig into it more, if Oregon wins out they either get in or will at least be ahead of Cincy in the poll. Arizona State winning out and beating a one loss Oregon for the PAC 12 title would be ahead of Cincy. If any of Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State’s only loss is to Ohio State, they’ll have consideration over Cincy. This is just from where we sit now, I mean who knows all the wild shit that could happen. And I’m assuming Cincy wins out in all of these scenarios too. We just haven’t gotten into the meat of so many schedules and let shit play out, but as Cincinnati is playing Tulane and Tulsa and Southwestern Cincinnati, other teams are gonna do real shit, and Cincinnati will get jumped even if they win many weeks.

                                      And just to play along with the thread title, a one loss Cincinnati absolutely will not get in. There will be another better one loss situation out there that will be ahead of Cincy, especially considering what is left on Cincy’s schedule.

                                      Also Notre Dame blows ass

                                      Thank you for coming to my Tex Talk
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                                      • goduke
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                                        #20
                                        Neither is getting in. That’s the end of this debate
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                                        • jtoler
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                                          #21
                                          lol u guys hate the middies while I love them. its time to make way for the little guys. all of those what ifs u guys are including are very slim. we know its more about when u lose when it comes to those bigger names and some will lose late its a given which will wreck their chances, its that simple. only team that has a chance being undefeated imo is oklahoma and that is slim it will be tough down the stretch for them. cincy is about to be ranked #3 or #4 after this week since iowa or psu will lose. and when the playoff rankings come out I expect them to give cincy much respect, they already showed that with preseason ranking. u guys are acting like cincy has paid their dues, they were undefeated reg season last year and lost to uga by only 3. cmon. the greens are looking nice in bearcat country. get used to it.
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                                          • jtoler
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by RM Logic
                                            No way does Cinci get in if Ohio State runs the table. They would have wins over Penn State, Michigan, MSU and Iowa- all top 15 teams.
                                            Cinci has just a garbage schedule left.
                                            And ND isnt very good at all. They could easily lose 3-4 games.
                                            there are 4 teams in the playoffs wut does ohio state getting in have to do with cincy
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                                            • Tuesday
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jtoler
                                              there are 4 teams in the playoffs wut does ohio state getting in have to do with cincy



                                              Pretty much has to do with your clown capper car, jtroller.
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                                              • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                • 01-04-09
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jtoler
                                                lol u guys hate the middies while I love them. its time to make way for the little guys. all of those what ifs u guys are including are very slim. we know its more about when u lose when it comes to those bigger names and some will lose late its a given which will wreck their chances, its that simple. only team that has a chance being undefeated imo is oklahoma and that is slim it will be tough down the stretch for them. cincy is about to be ranked #3 or #4 after this week since iowa or psu will lose. and when the playoff rankings come out I expect them to give cincy much respect, they already showed that with preseason ranking. u guys are acting like cincy has paid their dues, they were undefeated reg season last year and lost to uga by only 3. cmon. the greens are looking nice in bearcat country. get used to it.
                                                I love the little guy. I'd love to see Cincy make the playoffs BUT money rules the roost and it will be very difficult for them to get in over a big name, like an OSU, PSU, UM, OU, UT, USC, ND, Wake (not a big name but undefeated in the ACC), or any SEC team. They need several of these teams to have 2 losses and stay undefeated. If there's 3 or more of these teams with just 1 loss, Cincy is fukkked. If ND goes undefeated the rest of the way, they will certainly overtake Cincy who beat them. It sucks but it's truth.

                                                Which is why I'm in favor of the AND1 to AND4 concept. The committee should have the option of adding anywhere from 1 to 4 teams to the playoff where the lowest seeds would have to play each other in a runoff. Let's say you had Bama, UGA, OSU ranked higher, maybe you would have Cincy play OU first, at the highest ranked home field. Let's say you also had another team in the mix, maybe a 1 loss Oregon or PSU, you could have another And1 with another team. Some years you may have 4 clear teams, but some years you may need to have 5, 6, 7 up to 8 teams deserving.
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                                                • chico2663
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                                                  #25
                                                  Guess you guys forgot Tim tebows last game neither team had their coach. While u c doesn’t have the money they do travel well. If u c is undefeated they have a shot. They have put many in the nfl such as Wolfe, celek, Kelsey boys and Huber. Their problem through the years have been coaches leaving them such as harbaugh(ravens),urban Meyer,trey Helton,narduzzi,zac Taylor and Rex Ryan. They accepted to go to big 12 so they are moving up. Now I don’t want them to play Bama but they can beat any team in the big 10. They have the best cb in the nation… with both being on list for the award. The q b is on he is an list.
                                                  just because you don’t know shit about them is not a reason to doubt them.
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                                                  • chico2663
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                                                    #26
                                                    Yes fla beat the shit out of them but people didn’t know that most of kids played sick from food poisoning. I did and made some loot.
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                                                    • jtoler
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                      I love the little guy. I'd love to see Cincy make the playoffs BUT money rules the roost and it will be very difficult for them to get in over a big name, like an OSU, PSU, UM, OU, UT, USC, ND, Wake (not a big name but undefeated in the ACC), or any SEC team. They need several of these teams to have 2 losses and stay undefeated. If there's 3 or more of these teams with just 1 loss, Cincy is fukkked. If ND goes undefeated the rest of the way, they will certainly overtake Cincy who beat them. It sucks but it's truth.

                                                      Which is why I'm in favor of the AND1 to AND4 concept. The committee should have the option of adding anywhere from 1 to 4 teams to the playoff where the lowest seeds would have to play each other in a runoff. Let's say you had Bama, UGA, OSU ranked higher, maybe you would have Cincy play OU first, at the highest ranked home field. Let's say you also had another team in the mix, maybe a 1 loss Oregon or PSU, you could have another And1 with another team. Some years you may have 4 clear teams, but some years you may need to have 5, 6, 7 up to 8 teams deserving.
                                                      admittedly a lot is wishful thinking on my part because I know how the committee can screw things up. but I dont think it will be hard getting in over some of those teams because of where cincy is ranked right now 5 in one poll and 6 in another. iowa and psu are ahead but they play one another this week so one is gonna drop down not to mention both should lose again down the road. most of those other teams are pretty much out of the picture and will no doubt lose games down the road also. texas ranked 21 too far to climb slim to none they win out, usc has been done, 14th ranked nd not gonna leapfrog cincy who they lost to and with no conference championship. wake isnt winning at unc and at clemson so they are out of the picture. michigan is on borrowed time I think we all know it and they will surely lose games soon enough. uga and bama could meet in conference chip, one has to lose.
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                                                      • jjgold
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                                                        #28
                                                        Cincy only chance to get in undefeated then I think pretty certain
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                                                        • seaborneq
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                                                          #29
                                                          I wonder how much does Cincinnati get penalized today.
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