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	209 LifeSBR MVP- 09-15-18
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 #71Says the piece of shitComment
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	 jackpot269SBR Posting Legend jackpot269SBR Posting Legend- 09-24-07
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 #74Most QB list you see from so called experts put Carr around #12!! Not elite but better than 20 other starting QB!!Comment
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	stevenashModerator- 01-17-11
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 #75Just ten minutes ago, Colin Cowherd in a conversation with Nick Wright (talking about Carr) said Carr is better than Baker.Originally posted by jackpot269Most QB list you see from so called experts put Carr around #12!! Not elite but better than 20 other starting QB!!
 After chewing on that for a minute I think he's correct.
 
 Nick Wright, the colossal gasbag that he is just cracked me up.
 He comes back with "I'm not sure Baker is better than David Carr"
 
 The lists I provided in this thread are PFF (Pro Football Focus)
 It's my go to source when I want to check things.
 I usually agree with them 80 percent of the time, not always.
 
 For instance, they say Waller and Kelce are the 1 and 1A tight ends.
 I think the list at TE begins and ends with Kelce.
 
 Second tier you have Waller and Gronk.
 Third tier you have Andrews, Kittle with Logan Thomas knocking on the door.
 
 That's just mu opinion, and like assholes everybody as one.
 
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	DISTROYASBR MVP- 04-26-12
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 #76Im sorry but most of you really have NO clue, period.
 Background: Live in L.A., pretty much raider and ram fan. Not passionate by any means, if they lose I dont take pills. If they win Im happy.
 If you gave me an offensive line like Tom Brady, give me an elite coach like Belichick, give me a wall that protects me so well I can play till im 75 without getting touched ( the ONLY 2 times he did get pressured/sacked/ buried lost both times to the much inferior NYG in the super bowl), and give me a defense that doesnt get burned over and over, has zero pash rush, worst safety and cornerback play for eternity like raiders do, I guarantee he can perform just as good as him if not better.
 Carr has had nothing but horrible management and drafting, bad coaching, horrific defense that shouldnt be called one, and not many superstars lined up next to him year in and year out. The ONE FCUKING year he was getting A. Brown, what happened? Not only didnt get him but followed the bandwagon of who? You guessed it, Brady, not once (NE) but twice (now both in TB).
 I dont think anyone realizes how important your offensive line is in this league. If you are well protected, anyone can be a pro bowl QB. Its that simple, unless QB completely implodes. You dont, and you will be running for your life trying not only to win but stay upright and not have your spine removed from your skeleton.
 Carr is an exceptional QB with bad luck (not counting the tons of $$$ getting of course.) He's still always so positive, never blames shitty management or teammates; even defends his defense on air, (that takes huge balls to stick up for that sad group year in and year out) leads both teams to prayer in the middle of the field after the game. (I know for most that doesn't matter now and some might even find offensive it is 2021 nothing is right) but all these facts make a case for the guy IMO.
 Unfortunately we will never find out how good he is with this awful team and organization/management, unless he gets traded to a good team.Comment
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	stevenashModerator- 01-17-11
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 #77^
 This is a rock solid post.
 
 Qustion?
 If Gruden is this be all end all QB guru, shouldn't he know what it takes to protect Carr and talk to the powers that be (GM and such) and get that interior line help via trade or draft.Comment
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	DISTROYASBR MVP- 04-26-12
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 #78Im completely baffled, perplexed, in awe and disbelief how bad mayock and gruden draft year after year. Tanner Muse? Colin Ferrell? Better you get Will Ferrell perhaps. Alex Leatherwood? Sounds like a spokesperson for old spice. Ruggs over Ceedee lamb. Year after year, no end. Sad thing is, if they really like these cats, they can easily get them in later rounds and use their 1st rounders on premium players. There is no rhyme or reason. Even ESPN wasn't that surprised this year at the draft, saying its a "Raiders" pick, move on. They also draft countless Cb's and safeties that hardly ever pan out, have 2-4th round gradings, too many to mention here. Precisely why I feel for Carr. Rodgers bitches and moans when they draft a backup QB, you dont hear one word from Carr on what he needs, and whats best for him. Instead absorbs absurd pick after pick, and takes it up the ass; literally sometimes getting pounded to the turf.Comment
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	thomorinoRestricted User- 06-01-17
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 #79Mayfield is better than Carr you dumb shit.Originally posted by stevenashJust ten minutes ago, Colin Cowherd in a conversation with Nick Wright (talking about Carr) said Carr is better than Baker.
 After chewing on that for a minute I think he's correct.
 
 Nick Wright, the colossal gasbag that he is just cracked me up.
 He comes back with "I'm not sure Baker is better than David Carr"
 
 The lists I provided in this thread are PFF (Pro Football Focus)
 It's my go to source when I want to check things.
 I usually agree with them 80 percent of the time, not always.
 
 For instance, they say Waller and Kelce are the 1 and 1A tight ends.
 I think the list at TE begins and ends with Kelce.
 
 Second tier you have Waller and Gronk.
 Third tier you have Andrews, Kittle with Logan Thomas knocking on the door.
 
 That's just mu opinion, and like assholes everybody as one.
 
 .
 
 Mayfield is in year 3, he's still getting better, Carr isn't in year 3, he is what he is. Just stop, you are a dumb shit who is wrong about everything. Mayfield is already better than Carr and he's still getting better.
 
 Carr had 1 very good year when he had the best offensive line in football and no pressure on him, since then he's been mediocre, that's what he is. Mayfield is above average and still getting better.Comment
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	thomorinoRestricted User- 06-01-17
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 #80There is nothing exceptional about Carr, he had 1 above average season when he had the best offensive line in football, since then he's been average. He makes bad decisions a lot.Originally posted by DISTROYAIm sorry but most of you really have NO clue, period.
 Background: Live in L.A., pretty much raider and ram fan. Not passionate by any means, if they lose I dont take pills. If they win Im happy.
 If you gave me an offensive line like Tom Brady, give me an elite coach like Belichick, give me a wall that protects me so well I can play till im 75 without getting touched ( the ONLY 2 times he did get pressured/sacked/ buried lost both times to the much inferior NYG in the super bowl), and give me a defense that doesnt get burned over and over, has zero pash rush, worst safety and cornerback play for eternity like raiders do, I guarantee he can perform just as good as him if not better.
 Carr has had nothing but horrible management and drafting, bad coaching, horrific defense that shouldnt be called one, and not many superstars lined up next to him year in and year out. The ONE FCUKING year he was getting A. Brown, what happened? Not only didnt get him but followed the bandwagon of who? You guessed it, Brady, not once (NE) but twice (now both in TB).
 I dont think anyone realizes how important your offensive line is in this league. If you are well protected, anyone can be a pro bowl QB. Its that simple, unless QB completely implodes. You dont, and you will be running for your life trying not only to win but stay upright and not have your spine removed from your skeleton.
 Carr is an exceptional QB with bad luck (not counting the tons of $$$ getting of course.) He's still always so positive, never blames shitty management or teammates; even defends his defense on air, (that takes huge balls to stick up for that sad group year in and year out) leads both teams to prayer in the middle of the field after the game. (I know for most that doesn't matter now and some might even find offensive it is 2021 nothing is right) but all these facts make a case for the guy IMO.
 Unfortunately we will never find out how good he is with this awful team and organization/management, unless he gets traded to a good team.Comment
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	stevenashModerator- 01-17-11
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 #81I have an expression,Originally posted by thomorinoMayfield is better than Carr you dumb shit.
 
 Mayfield is in year 3, he's still getting better, Carr isn't in year 3, he is what he is. Just stop, you are a dumb shit who is wrong about everything. Mayfield is already better than Carr and he's still getting better.
 
 Carr had 1 very good year when he had the best offensive line in football and no pressure on him, since then he's been mediocre, that's what he is. Mayfield is above average and still getting better.
 "Nobody's perfect, not even a perfect asshole"
 That's the first thing I got wrong all month.
 
 You sir, are a perfect asshole, and an idiot too.
 
 Have your last cheap shot.
 And have a lucky Wednesday Corky.Comment
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	thomorinoRestricted User- 06-01-17
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 #82As always, I own you, you have np th ing to say you dumb shit.Originally posted by stevenashI have an expression,
 "Nobody's perfect, not even a perfect asshole"
 That's the first thing I got wrong all month.
 
 You sir, are a perfect asshole, and an idiot too.
 
 Have your last cheap shot.
 And have a lucky Wednesday Corky.Comment
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	thomorinoRestricted User- 06-01-17
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 #83It makes sense you are 5-7 too, you are a poster child for little mans syndrome. I'm 6 feet 2 hundred pounds, your lucky you can hide on forums like these you dumb shit.Originally posted by stevenashI have an expression,
 "Nobody's perfect, not even a perfect asshole"
 That's the first thing I got wrong all month.
 
 You sir, are a perfect asshole, and an idiot too.
 
 Have your last cheap shot.
 And have a lucky Wednesday Corky.Comment
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	KnuckleHeadzSBR Hall of Famer- 12-11-19
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 #84We seen where you are walking along a beach video taping your feet.Originally posted by thomorinoIt makes sense you are 5-7 too, you are a poster child for little mans syndrome. I'm 6 feet 2 hundred pounds, your lucky you can hide on forums like these you dumb shit.
 Those are not the feet of someone 200lbs. You are obese and that’s a factComment
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	stevenashModerator- 01-17-11
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 #85I don't even know who the idiot is talking to, or what he's talking about now.Originally posted by KnuckleHeadzWe seen where you are walking along a beach video taping your feet.
 Those are not the feet of someone 200lbs. You are obese and that’s a fact
 I'd expect nothing less though from an idiot .
 
 His life is trolling on a message board and lying about what he does.Comment
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	MinnesotaFatsSBR Posting Legend- 12-18-10
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 #86Football is won & lost in the trenches
 
 QB is irrelevant
 
 Rather have a rookie QB & stout front 7 on D and solid Oline/ ground attack
 
 Cousins w an Oline would be unstoppable
 
 But u see what happens when there's deficiency in the trenchesComment
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	stevenashModerator- 01-17-11
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 #87Cousins with an o-lne would be in the Hall of Fame.Originally posted by MinnesotaFatsFootball is won & lost in the trenches
 
 QB is irrelevant
 
 Rather have a rookie QB & stout front 7 on D and solid Oline/ ground attack
 
 Cousins w an Oline would be unstoppable
 
 But u see what happens when there's deficiency in the trenchesComment
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	swordsandtequilaSBR Hall of Famer- 02-23-12
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 #88Originally posted by thomorinoIt makes sense you are 5-7 too, you are a poster child for little mans syndrome. I'm 6 feet 2, hundred pounds, your lucky you can hide on forums like these you dumb shit.
 Jeezus, you're built like a palm tree. Wouldn't be bragging about that Comment Comment
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	BigdaddyQHSBR Posting Legend- 07-13-09
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 #89The first thing you got wrong all month? Were you not the know-nothing that took the Bears Sunday Night against the Rams? As a matter of fact, just what games have you gotten correct?Originally posted by stevenashI have an expression,
 "Nobody's perfect, not even a perfect asshole"
 That's the first thing I got wrong all month.
 
 You sir, are a perfect asshole, and an idiot too.
 
 Have your last cheap shot.
 And have a lucky Wednesday Corky.Comment
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	stevenashModerator- 01-17-11
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 #90Pipe down.Originally posted by BigdaddyQHThe first thing you got wrong all month? Were you not the know-nothing that took the Bears Sunday Night against the Rams? As a matter of fact, just what games have you gotten correct?
 If I wanted noise from an asshole I would have fareted.
 
 You're both a blowhard and a wanna be tout.
 Oh, and a failure too.
 
 Send me a pm now threatening me, I'll blast it all over these boards.
 
 You're turn now.Comment
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	TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 02-14-07
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 #91I'm going to stop you right there... you said give me Belichick as my coach. I promise you 100% Belichick and Carr WOULD NOT GEL TOGETHER. Belichick wouldn't want Carr as a QB.Originally posted by DISTROYAIm sorry but most of you really have NO clue, period.
 Background: Live in L.A., pretty much raider and ram fan. Not passionate by any means, if they lose I dont take pills. If they win Im happy.
 If you gave me an offensive line like Tom Brady, give me an elite coach like Belichick,Comment
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	TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 02-14-07
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 #92Gruden has changed his personality drastically. It's not that he's evolved or some sh#$... that $10 million a year deal would keep you modest an "in check". He just puts up with Carr... Gruden laughs all the way to the bank. It's a shame... win or lose Monday night... Gruden wouldn't give a damn....Comment
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	KermitBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 09-27-10
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 #93Mayfield is in year 4.Originally posted by thomorinoMayfield is better than Carr you dumb shit.
 
 Mayfield is in year 3, he's still getting better, Carr isn't in year 3, he is what he is. Just stop, you are a dumb shit who is wrong about everything. Mayfield is already better than Carr and he's still getting better.
 
 Carr had 1 very good year when he had the best offensive line in football and no pressure on him, since then he's been mediocre, that's what he is. Mayfield is above average and still getting better.
 
 He played well in his 3rd year. 3,500 yards 26/8
 
 Carr went 12-3 in his 3rd year with almost 4,000 yards and 28/6 TD/INT ratio. If he didn't break his leg, they could have possibly gone far into the playoffs.
 
 
 I like Baker, but I don't think he's better than Carr.Comment
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	Mac4LyfeSBR Aristocracy- 01-04-09
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 #94His brother David might have been one of the best if he wasn't laying on his back so much with the Texans. He had a lot of skill and a great arm but played on some very horrible Houston offenses. Every QB would look good with the Bucs roster. Comment Comment
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	KermitBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 09-27-10
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 #95Isn't that the truth. What happened to David Carr was horrible.Originally posted by Mac4LyfeHis brother David might have been one of the best if he wasn't laying on his back so much with the Texans. He had a lot of skill and a great arm but played on some very horrible Houston offenses. Every QB would look good with the Bucs roster. Comment Comment
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	 jackpot269SBR Posting Legend jackpot269SBR Posting Legend- 09-24-07
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 #96He is defiantly not as athletic as Baker but the thing with me and these kind of questions is give them 10 more years then compare them more of a sample size of their work!! AS far as the tight ends go most agree Kelce is the best in the league but Waller cant be far behind he made a lot of unbelievable plays last year!!Originally posted by stevenashJust ten minutes ago, Colin Cowherd in a conversation with Nick Wright (talking about Carr) said Carr is better than Baker.
 After chewing on that for a minute I think he's correct.
 
 Nick Wright, the colossal gasbag that he is just cracked me up.
 He comes back with "I'm not sure Baker is better than David Carr"
 
 The lists I provided in this thread are PFF (Pro Football Focus)
 It's my go to source when I want to check things.
 I usually agree with them 80 percent of the time, not always.
 
 For instance, they say Waller and Kelce are the 1 and 1A tight ends.
 I think the list at TE begins and ends with Kelce.
 
 Second tier you have Waller and Gronk.
 Third tier you have Andrews, Kittle with Logan Thomas knocking on the door.
 
 That's just mu opinion, and like assholes everybody as one.
 
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	MinnesotaFatsSBR Posting Legend- 12-18-10
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 #97I agree with thisOriginally posted by Mac4LyfeHis brother David might have been one of the best if he wasn't laying on his back so much with the Texans. He had a lot of skill and a great arm but played on some very horrible Houston offenses. Every QB would look good with the Bucs roster. 
 
 You just watch David throw and it's like watching Jeff George
 
 The talent
 George had mental issues
 
 Carr had no help in HoustonComment
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	thomorinoRestricted User- 06-01-17
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 #98Mayfield is still getting better, Carr is what he is, average. The year Carr had you refer need he had the best offensive line in football, he's been inconsistent every other year and he doesn't have Mayfields athleticism.Originally posted by KermitMayfield is in year 4.
 
 He played well in his 3rd year. 3,500 yards 26/8
 
 Carr went 12-3 in his 3rd year with almost 4,000 yards and 28/6 TD/INT ratio. If he didn't break his leg, they could have possibly gone far into the playoffs.
 
 
 I like Baker, but I don't think he's better than Carr.Comment
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	thomorinoRestricted User- 06-01-17
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 #99Originally posted by swordsandtequilaJeezus, you're built like a palm tree. Wouldn't be bragging about that Originally posted by stevenashI don't even know who the idiot is talking to, or what he's talking about now. Originally posted by stevenashI don't even know who the idiot is talking to, or what he's talking about now.
 I'd expect nothing less though from an idiot .
 
 His life is trolling on a message board and lying about what he does.Wrong, dumb shits.Originally posted by KnuckleHeadzWe seen where you are walking along a beach video taping your feet.
 Those are not the feet of someone 200lbs. You are obese and that’s a factComment
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	lonegambler23SBR Hall of Famer- 06-22-16
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 #100moneyshot probably hedged out of his bet like a little girlComment
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	lonegambler23SBR Hall of Famer- 06-22-16
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 #101wrong, dumb shit. 5'7 is average height.Originally posted by thomorinoIt makes sense you are 5-7 too, you are a poster child for little mans syndrome. I'm 6 feet 2 hundred pounds, your lucky you can hide on forums like these you dumb shit.Comment
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	thomorinoRestricted User- 06-01-17
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 #102Not for men you dumb shit.Originally posted by lonegambler23wrong, dumb shit. 5'7 is average height.Comment
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	lonegambler23SBR Hall of Famer- 06-22-16
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 #103Originally posted by thomorinoNot for men you dumb shit.
 wrong, dumb shit.Comment
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	thomorinoRestricted User- 06-01-17
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 #104No you are wrong you dumb shit.Originally posted by lonegambler23wrong, dumb shit.Comment
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	gauchojakeBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 09-17-10
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 #105I agree about the O Line nd much of my capping relies on the strength of that unit. Just look at what the Rams did with Goff. He was well protected and had success. The difference between a guy like Brady behind a good O line and a guy ike Goff or Carr is not the line but what's in between the ears. Brady gets rid of the ball and lives to fight another day. Carr chucks the ball to the other team. You would think he would have learned by now when to give up on a play, but he hasn't. The elite QB's have elite decision making skills, not just athletic talent.Comment
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