You hold the #1 overall draft pick in your NFL fantasy draft...

packerd_00 · 07-15-21, 10:30 AM

Not to sound boring but yeah id have to go with McCaffrey at #1. Even though he was a total let down last season due to the injuries, you still have to pick him there.

pavyracer · 07-15-21, 10:33 AM

New QB this year. Wouldn't be surprised if McCaffrey's numbers dip due to Darnold. He is a turnover machine and he will be a liability for McCaffrey.

bballs84 · 07-15-21, 10:34 AM

Priest Holmes

Joking Aside it’s mcCaffrey

BuckyOne · 07-15-21, 10:51 AM

You guys seem pretty sure he will be healthy all season?

How many games has he missed in the NFL so far?

Ryermkd · 07-15-21, 10:54 AM

Ryermkd · 07-15-21, 10:56 AM

Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. Sammy is all 4

stevenash · 07-15-21, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

New QB this year. Wouldn't be surprised if McCaffrey's numbers dip due to Darnold. He is a turnover machine and he will be a liability for MCCaffrey.

Yeah but he's gold in PPR leagues.

He'll be the most targeted RB out of the backfield (followed by Kamara and Ekeler) and McCaffrey does have good hands.
He'll get almost every red zone touch, if he stays healthy he'll score five receiving TD's and ten more on the ground.

You can't pass that up.

Tell you who's a nice sleeper (if you can call him that) is Jonathan Taylor.
He got baptized last season, he may be primed too with a new QB giving him a lot of touches and safe flair passes in the flats.
JT has nice hands too.

pavyracer · 07-15-21, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by stevenash

Yeah but he's gold in PPR leagues.

He'll be the most targeted RB out of the backfield (followed by Kamara and Ekeler) and McCaffrey does have good hands.
He'll get almost every red zone touch, if he stays healthy he'll score five receiving TD's and ten more on the ground.

You can't pass that up.

Tell you who's a nice sleeper (if you can call him that) is Jonathan Taylor.
He got baptized last season, he may be primed too with a new QB giving him a lot of touches and safe flair passes in the flats.
JT has nice hands too.

I agree you can't pass as #1 pick. I believe everyone who picked him as #1 last year in my leagues didn't win their league. I hate picking #1 as the next pick doesn't come up after a while.

stevenash · 07-15-21, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by BuckyOne

You guys seem pretty sure he will be healthy all season?

How many games has he missed in the NFL so far?

He started every game in 2017 his rookie year, every game in 2018, every game in 2019.
Last season, his fourth he missed the last seven game of the year.
But that was a thigh injury, not bone related and the reports are he's 100 percent.

He is not injury prone.

stevenash · 07-15-21, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

I agree you can't pass as #1 pick. I believe everyone who picked him as #1 last year in my leagues didn't win their league. I hate picking #1 as the next pick doesn't come up after a while.

I'd rather have like the #4 or #5 overall.
Then come second round you still are looking at a quality WR! type with the #20 (or so) overall pick

Goat Milk · 07-15-21, 04:17 PM

Henry

Another 2k season and 20 touchdowns

Enkhbat · 07-15-21, 06:31 PM

Dalvin Cook

Eddy Munny · 07-16-21, 03:54 AM

In PPR CMC is a no brainer but Dalvin not terribly far behind.

Also Jonathan Taylor is far from a "sleeper." He finished as the #6 RB last year and has a first round ADP this year.

stevenash · 07-16-21, 05:00 AM

Originally posted by Eddy Munny

In PPR CMC is a no brainer but Dalvin not terribly far behind.

Also Jonathan Taylor is far from a "sleeper." He finished as the #6 RB last year and has a first round ADP this year.

I mentioned that about Taylor in (parens)
I said "if you can call him that (a sleeper)
Taylor is primed.

stevenash · 07-16-21, 05:05 AM

Top 40 PPR as ranked by Rotowire.

					Passing				Rushing				Receiving					Health Report
Rank	Player Name	Team	Pos	Bye	YDS	TD	INT	ATT	ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	REC	YDS	AVG	TD	TAR	Status	Injury
1	Christian McCaffrey	CAR	RB	13	0	0	0	0	252	1126	4.5	10	88	767	8.7	4	111
2	Dalvin Cook	MIN	RB	7	0	0	0	0	290	1366	4.7	12	56	477	8.5	2	70
3	Ezekiel Elliott	DAL	RB	7	0	0	0	0	298	1366	4.6	12	50	451	9	1	61
4	Alvin Kamara	NO	RB	6	0	0	0	0	185	885	4.8	9	77	722	9.4	3	98
5	Jonathan Taylor	IND	RB	14	0	0	0	0	274	1340	4.9	12	47	409	8.7	2	60
6	Tyreek Hill	KC	WR	12	0	0	0	0	16	95	5.9	2	94	1428	15.2	11	150
7	Travis Kelce	KC	TE	12	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	96	1190	12.4	9	134
8	Nick Chubb	CLE	RB	13	0	0	0	0	299	1428	4.8	12	31	271	8.7	1	38
9	Derrick Henry	TEN	RB	13	0	0	0	0	330	1523	4.6	15	17	118	6.9	1	21
10	Saquon Barkley	NYG	RB	10	0	0	0	0	237	1113	4.7	10	48	438	9.1	2	62	Ques	Knee - ACL + MCL
11	DeAndre Hopkins	ARI	WR	12	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	111	1379	12.4	9	158
12	Davante Adams	GB	WR	13	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	106	1248	11.8	12	150
13	Stefon Diggs	BUF	WR	7	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	113	1347	11.9	9	154
14	Calvin Ridley	ATL	WR	6	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	103	1446	14	9	158	Ques	Foot
15	DK Metcalf	SEA	WR	9	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	89	1465	16.5	11	141
16	Terry McLaurin	WAS	WR	9	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	103	1440	14	9	157
17	A.J. Brown	TEN	WR	13	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	92	1430	15.5	11	137	Ques	Knee
18	Justin Jefferson	MIN	WR	7	0	0	0	0	2	12	6	0	100	1394	13.9	10	151
19	Darren Waller	LV	TE	8	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	102	1165	11.4	7	143
20	Najee Harris	PIT	RB	7	0	0	0	0	263	1176	4.5	10	42	383	9.1	2	50
21	George Kittle	SF	TE	6	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	87	1175	13.5	9	125
22	Austin Ekeler	LAC	RB	7	0	0	0	0	145	651	4.5	3	91	772	8.5	3	114
23	Clyde Edwards-Helaire	KC	RB	12	0	0	0	0	253	1149	4.5	7	52	469	9	2	64
24	Cam Akers	LAR	RB	11	0	0	0	0	292	1290	4.4	10	39	332	8.5	1	49
25	Aaron Jones	GB	RB	13	0	0	0	0	220	1040	4.7	10	48	428	8.9	2	63
26	D'Andre Swift	DET	RB	9	0	0	0	0	235	1058	4.5	9	52	430	8.3	2	63
27	Patrick Mahomes	KC	QB	12	5041	40	7	632	58	312	5.4	3	0	0	0	0	0
28	Antonio Gibson	WAS	RB	9	0	0	0	0	238	1053	4.4	10	46	437	9.5	1	58
29	J.K. Dobbins	BAL	RB	8	0	0	0	0	239	1195	5	10	39	352	9	1	49
30	Joe Mixon	CIN	RB	10	0	0	0	0	265	1126	4.2	7	54	427	7.9	1	66
31	David Montgomery	CHI	RB	10	0	0	0	0	269	1176	4.4	10	39	334	8.6	1	49
32	Josh Allen	BUF	QB	7	4593	36	13	601	77	495	6.4	6	0	0	0	0	0
33	Kyler Murray	ARI	QB	12	4303	30	14	575	119	757	6.4	7	0	0	0	0	0
34	Allen Robinson	CHI	WR	10	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	97	1357	14	7	152
35	Michael Thomas	NO	WR	6	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	107	1216	11.4	7	150
36	Keenan Allen	LAC	WR	7	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	106	1207	11.4	7	160
37	Miles Sanders	PHI	RB	14	0	0	0	0	228	1085	4.8	7	44	374	8.5	1	56
38	Josh Jacobs	LV	RB	8	0	0	0	0	266	1161	4.4	11	30	255	8.5	0	38
39	Cooper Kupp	LAR	WR	11	0	0	0	0	7	44	6.3	0	98	1204	12.3	7	141
40	Dak Prescott	DAL	QB	7	4570	36	10	572	68	362	5.3	4	0	0	0	0	0	Ques	Ankle

stake1 · 07-16-21, 05:25 AM

Can mccaffrey stay healthy is the question

El Nino · 07-16-21, 06:49 AM

Kamara or Henry.

Eddy Munny · 07-16-21, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

I mentioned that about Taylor in (parens)
I said "if you can call him that (a sleeper)
Taylor is primed.

Well yeah, I get it, but the fact that there's any consideration at all suggests that you might deem him borderline or "on the bubble" in regards to him being a sleeper... I'm unequivocally saying he's not. He's closer to McCaffrey than he is to any tier of RB's that would come off the board as sleepers.

KiDBaZkiT · 07-16-21, 02:09 PM

I don’t play fantasy but Carson Wentz is going to be easy to get in some drafts and he’s absolutely coming TO FUKK this season!!

stevenash · 07-16-21, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT

I don’t play fantasy but Carson Wentz is going to be easy to get in some drafts and he’s absolutely coming TO FUKK this season!!

Don't you just want to bitch slap Wentz just for general principles?

Goat Milk · 07-16-21, 05:04 PM

Titans will score way more TDs than Carolina. 15-20 tds for Henry calling it now.

peacebyinches · 07-16-21, 06:00 PM

Taylor is definitely someone I am grabbing first round, unless I have pick 1.01 I'll be drafting him

shadymcgrady · 07-16-21, 06:09 PM

Taylor is going to bust at an adp in the top 10. Not a 3 down back, not in a system that uses 3 down backs and he was awful against decent or better defenses last yr

trobin31 · 07-16-21, 06:25 PM

Saquon will unleash this year...

stevenash · 07-16-21, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Titans will score way more TDs than Carolina. 15-20 tds for Henry calling it now.

Love Henry, absolute beast.
Straight up bell cow up your defenses gut rusher,
They don't throw to him, he's not that kind of back.
Some halfbacks just can't handle a pass.
Doesn't change the fact he's a beast.

McCaffrey's first full three seasons he was targeted on the average of 128 times, or about eight passes a game thrown his way.
And he has magic hands, he was pretty much gold on the average he caught seven out of eight passes a game thrown at him.
He also caught 15 TD passes in his first three seasons. Five per year.

Henry's pass receiving numbers are non existent, because they just run him.

McCaffrey gets 128 targets a season.
Henry gets 20 targets a season just a tad over one pass a game.

Henry has three career TD pass receptions in five pro seasons.
McCaffrey catches five TD passes every year.

Somebody mentioned McCaffrey is turnover prone.
I looked it up.
He's lost only two fumbles in three years.
2019 the last real NFL season McCaffery rushed the ball 287 times in 16 games (average 18 carries a game, every game) and fumbled just once. And that was recovered by him, that was not a lost fumble to the defense.

My all time personal favorite running back was Matt Forte.
McCaffrey is cut from the same mold as Forte.

God I remember loving watching those Bears games with Forte in the backfield almost on every snap.
Now that was a pass catching running back.
One of the finest I ever saw.

stevenash · 07-16-21, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by shadymcgrady

Taylor is going to bust at an adp in the top 10. Not a 3 down back, not in a system that uses 3 down backs and he was awful against decent or better defenses last yr

I got the Big Ten package at home.
Every Saturday I would watch Wisconsin at noon.

I love Taylor too.

And watch Ekeler explode this year out the in Hollywood.
Same kind of back.

Goat Milk · 07-17-21, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by stevenash

Love Henry, absolute beast.
Straight up bell cow up your defenses gut rusher,
They don't throw to him, he's not that kind of back.
Some halfbacks just can't handle a pass.
Doesn't change the fact he's a beast.

McCaffrey's first full three seasons he was targeted on the average of 128 times, or about eight passes a game thrown his way.
And he has magic hands, he was pretty much gold on the average he caught seven out of eight passes a game thrown at him.
He also caught 15 TD passes in his first three seasons. Five per year.

Henry's pass receiving numbers are non existent, because they just run him.

McCaffrey gets 128 targets a season.
Henry gets 20 targets a season just a tad over one pass a game.

Henry has three career TD pass receptions in five pro seasons.
McCaffrey catches five TD passes every year.

Somebody mentioned McCaffrey is turnover prone.
I looked it up.
He's lost only two fumbles in three years.
2019 the last real NFL season McCaffery rushed the ball 287 times in 16 games (average 18 carries a game, every game) and fumbled just once. And that was recovered by him, that was not a lost fumble to the defense.

My all time personal favorite running back was Matt Forte.
McCaffrey is cut from the same mold as Forte.

God I remember loving watching those Bears games with Forte in the backfield almost on every snap.
Now that was a pass catching running back.
One of the finest I ever saw.

That's the next step for him. Great rbs do this. They slowly get better at their weakness. Henry will go down as one of the best running backs of all time. Mcaffrey isn't that.

stevenash · 07-17-21, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

That's the next step for him. Great rbs do this. They slowly get better at their weakness. Henry will go down as one of the best running backs of all time. Mcaffrey isn't that.

Forte will go down as the most underrated RB of all time.

KiDBaZkiT · 07-17-21, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by stevenash

Don't you just want to bitch slap Wentz just for general principles?

Fukk no. Guys a stud. I blame Pedersons arrogant ass and can’t wait for ole #11 to ball out in a Colts uni and win the AFC south while the eagles don’t even get a wild card.

KiDBaZkiT · 07-17-21, 10:51 AM

Lol Running backs in 2021 style ball? You guys are HILARIOUS.

Goat Milk · 07-17-21, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Forte will go down as the most underrated RB of all time.

Lol. He's a no name. He was a good fantasy rb for a bit and that's all. Watch Henry catch 3 balls a game this year.

Zlaniner · 07-17-21, 11:07 PM

The Chef D Cook, CMC will miss 5 -6 games

stevenash · 07-18-21, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Lol. He's a no name. He was a good fantasy rb for a bit and that's all. Watch Henry catch 3 balls a game this year.

Would love to see him involved more in the pass game.
He's the best one dimensional RB in the game today, but he has only two more seasons of 'prime time' left.
All, not many but all punishing battering ram running backs with breakaway speed break down almost instantly after year six.
The human body isn't built to sustain that type of abuse.
He plays virtually every snap, he's going to break down. All the great ones do.

I would love to Vrabel's OC Todd Downing have more plays involving Henry in some pass schemes.
If you use Henry even as a decoy for a screen pass that keeps opposing defenses on their heels a bit.
Right now all defense know what Henry's going to do, that's take a handoff from Tannehill in the gut and run.
You can't stop him but you know what he's going to do.

Like you mentioned, I think Vrable and Downing are heading in that direction with expanding Henry's role.

That Titan coaching staff is loaded with solid specialists.

Vrable is a defensive specialist, standout DE at Ohio State, he's a linebacker guru.
Spent a lot of time learning from Belichick as a Pat.
Carrier LB coach and a DC before becoming Head Coach.
He knows defense as well as anyone.

His right hand man is an offensive guru.
Todd Browning was a semi pro QB before coaching.
He's a tight end specialist.
He's the brains of the Titans offense, Vrablel is the boss of the whole operation.

Vrable and the Titans have been successful the past three years because the Head coach has a terrific defensive mind.
He trusts Downing to run the offense because he's an outstanding offensive minded genius that knows tight ends and QB's as well as anyone.

Titans have great coaches.

Who do you think is responsible for Tannehill's success.
The guy who loves to use his QB with his Tight Ends and knows Henry is the best ball control RB in the game.

Parcells (a great a head coach as there ever was) was smart enough to hire Belichick twice even though Parcells can't stand him as a person.
Parcells was smart enough to know Belichick is one of the greatest defensive coach ever.
He just gave the keys to Belichick on defense, that's one less thing he had to worry about.

Same with Vrable and Downing.
But I hear they get along great.

This season is probably going to be their best shot at a SB.
I'll root for them.

I'm a lifelong NYG homer that bleeds Big Blue, but certain other teams I follow closely too.