Traveling Overseas - Fake Vaccine Certification?

[deltgen]

The number of cases has plummeted. The vaccines are working tremendously. You should be happy that we can return to normal because millions of people decided to get the shot. I won't mock you for deciding not get the shot. And there's no need for you to mock the people who have.

First, I truly and honestly commend you for the last two lines here--I wish everyone would let people make the decision for themselves instead of the "I'm right, you're wrong" mentality.
As for the "The number of cases has plummented" remark--is that indeed the case, or is it a result of massive amounts of people with absolutely no symptoms, lining up to get a test which then served to jack up numbers, and that they are no longer doing that?

[Demonata]

You are one of a very few. Most antivaxxers are singing to the high heavens for others to not get the shot which is stupid. It's in our best interest to encourage everyone to get the shot. You are a smart man.

Shouldn't be encouraged to get it or not. Be free and do what you want,not what Faucis lying ass says. I like freedom though.

[Demonata]

So these vaccination cards don't even have any significant data on who you are??? lol For a major pandemic like they claim... why are they so generic when it comes to these "post cards" when you get vaccinated??? lol Biggest sham in American History. You can wipe your ass with those cards lol

Agreed man. It's the plandemic.

[ronald]

I doubt there will be a need for any proof of vaccination to travel in six months.

People are still panicking now, but it will blow over with herd immunity.

Avoid out of country travel in the next six months anyway - things will be crowded and overpriced.

GL men.

[Mac4Lyfe]

First, I truly and honestly commend you for the last two lines here--I wish everyone would let people make the decision for themselves instead of the "I'm right, you're wrong" mentality.
As for the "The number of cases has plummented" remark--is that indeed the case, or is it a result of massive amounts of people with absolutely no symptoms, lining up to get a test which then served to jack up numbers, and that they are no longer doing that?

Who really knows the real truth. Who really knows how accurate/inaccurate the testing really is and are the numbers being manipulated. This pandemic has been politicized, conspirasized (made that up), popularized, ostracized, demoralized, habitualized to death. I really don't care the real reason the numbers have gone down I'm just excited that numbers of people getting sick, hospitalized and dying have gone down and we are pretty much back to normal. It kinda sucks to drive on busy freeways, crowded planes and hard to find tickets to sporting events but it sure beats life a year ago.

[jjgold]

Testing is a waste

All about getting vaccine

All these losers against it suffer with Covid not good

[Mac4Lyfe]

Shouldn't be encouraged to get it or not. Be free and do what you want,not what Faucis lying ass says. I like freedom though.

We must encourage people to get it, even if you don't believe in getting it. If millions of people didn't line up to get it, we would still be fukked. There is NO ADVANTAGE to try and scare people NOT to get it. Unless you want to go back to lockdowns and masks???

[Mac4Lyfe]

So these vaccination cards don't even have any significant data on who you are??? lol For a major pandemic like they claim... why are they so generic when it comes to these "post cards" when you get vaccinated??? lol Biggest sham in American History. You can wipe your ass with those cards lol

You better believe a lot of people are getting wealthy on this pandemic.

The reason I think they did not demand tighter identification is because it discourages people from getting the shot. Most people were fairly skeptical in the beginning, so why make it hard? The plan was to get as many people as possible, even people living here illegally because they can impact a community. Plus you then have to deal with data privacy which is a nightmare. Most state and local municipalities are not properly equipped (US has a horrible infrastructure). The government put it in the hands of the states. So that tells me that the government is not looking to force people to get the shot. Now that could change but so far it really is an individuals choice.

I wouldn't call it a sham because the shots are clearly working. People are no longer getting sick and dying in large numbers. There's no disputing that the vaccines have prevented millions of people from getting sick. It remains to see if it sticks or if some variants end up kicking our ass and are there any long term side effects from these vaccines? We all need to be praying that this doesn't go to shit.

[Demonata]

We must encourage people to get it, even if you don't believe in getting it. If millions of people didn't line up to get it, we would still be fukked. There is NO ADVANTAGE to try and scare people NOT to get it. Unless you want to go back to lockdowns and masks???

I encourage people to make there own choice. The reasons I believe covid is down is because all the people that got it once got the antibodies already.

[d2bets]

First, I truly and honestly commend you for the last two lines here--I wish everyone would let people make the decision for themselves instead of the "I'm right, you're wrong" mentality.
As for the "The number of cases has plummented" remark--is that indeed the case, or is it a result of massive amounts of people with absolutely no symptoms, lining up to get a test which then served to jack up numbers, and that they are no longer doing that?

Hospitalizations and deaths are way down. But they are down less where there is less vaccination - direct correlation. And 90%+ of deaths and hosp are unvaccinated. This is not that complex to figure out.

[d2bets]

You better believe a lot of people are getting wealthy on this pandemic.

The reason I think they did not demand tighter identification is because it discourages people from getting the shot. Most people were fairly skeptical in the beginning, so why make it hard? The plan was to get as many people as possible, even people living here illegally because they can impact a community. Plus you then have to deal with data privacy which is a nightmare. Most state and local municipalities are not properly equipped (US has a horrible infrastructure). The government put it in the hands of the states. So that tells me that the government is not looking to force people to get the shot. Now that could change but so far it really is an individuals choice.

I wouldn't call it a sham because the shots are clearly working. People are no longer getting sick and dying in large numbers. There's no disputing that the vaccines have prevented millions of people from getting sick. It remains to see if it sticks or if some variants end up kicking our ass and are there any long term side effects from these vaccines? We all need to be praying that this doesn't go to shit.

Look around here. Somehow they are disputing it.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I encourage people to make there own choice. The reasons I believe covid is down is because all the people that got it once got the antibodies already.

Nope... Most estimates projected it would have taken at least another 4 years for us to reach herd immunity. Some projections were upwards on 10 years. To date, less than 10% of the population have had covid. You need around 70% to reach herd immunity.

Now we have close to half the people vaccinated. That is a HUGE number. That is the single most reason the numbers have gone down. Yes, the people who had it before count but the only reason we're opening things back up is clearly because of the vaccines. The remaining 40% could still be a problem, which is why the push to encourage them as well.

If you believe in reopening, not shutting things down and not wearing a masks, you should encourage people to get the shot whether you get it or not.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Look around here. Somehow they are disputing it.

They know the vaccines are working. They are just trying to be contrarian.

[ronald]

I certainly hope most people get vaccinated.

For me, there's no need.

Salud!

[d2bets]

They know the vaccines are working. They are just trying to be contrarian.

That's not being contrarian. That's just being dishonest aka lying.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Testing is a waste

All about getting vaccine

All these losers against it suffer with Covid not good

Pfizer or Moderna?

Everyone promoting the jab need to get the booster shot

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Hospitalizations and deaths are way down. But they are down less where there is less vaccination - direct correlation. And 90%+ of deaths and hosp are unvaccinated. This is not that complex to figure out.

It's the goddamn summer

Wait until the Flu season, I mean the Covid season

[Crusherrr]

just get the damn shot or shots, do the right thing, why in the hell would you want to fake it

The right thing is----- whatever he wants. Who are you to tell him otherwise.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

A lot of brainwashed Commies on SBR that think the government should decide what's best for us

[masr]

I got to say...some on here like Minnesota Fats, Ghengis and few others make good points and feedback about the "not a vaccine".
Were the others who agree on the vaccine just spew what they hear...they sound like CNN

[jjgold]

Pfizer solid

[d2bets]

It's the goddamn summer

Wait until the Flu season, I mean the Covid season

Did you forget the huge surge last summer in July? 65k cases daily average leading to 1,400 deaths per day in August. That was the flu? Plus, the start of covid last year late March and April was after flu season.

Any more bullshit?

[flyingillini]

If they found is fake good luck trying to get back to the US. Once you leave this country no one will help you overseas to come back if you committed a felony. Always think of the consequences of your actions and the risk/reward effect.

Pavy,

I just arrived back in California after 8 years in Vietnam. I have been coming back yearly though. However, when the pandemic first hit, all Americans that were registered with the embassy were told to leave Vietnam. If we chose to stay they would not help us at all. The only help was with **** services, as far as what was happening with going to covid camps etc, they would be no help at all. We had to follow what the Viet government told us. If we broke the law ,they would not interfere as well.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Did you forget the huge surge last summer in July? 65k cases daily average leading to 1,400 deaths per day in August. That was the flu? Plus, the start of covid last year late March and April was after flu season.

Any more bullshit?

If you test people like we did last year, I'm sure the numbers will climb even now.

Do you remember last summer, instead of number of deaths, the media changed their narrative to number of cases?

more tests = more cases

PCR test is a great weapon since it produces data they want

[d2bets]

If you test people like we did last year, I'm sure the numbers will climb even now.

Do you remember last summer, instead of number of deaths, the media changed their narrative to number of cases?

more tests = more cases

PCR test is a great weapon since it produces data they want

Are you familiar with positivity rate? Apparently not.

Deaths follow/lag cases. We know this. The case surge in July led to the death surge in August.

[d2bets]

...but the Covid vaccine doesn't work??

In Minnesota, the HealthPartners system has seen a “precipitous decline” in COVID-19 hospitalizations, says Dr. Mark Sannes, an infectious disease physician and senior medical director for the system, which operates nine hospitals and more than 55 clinics. But now, nearly every admitted patient he does see is unvaccinated.

“Less than 1% of our hospitalized COVID patients are vaccinated,"he said.

In Ohio, at University Hospitals Cleveland Medical Center, only 2% of the COVID-19 patients admitted in the last month were vaccinated, said Dr. Robert Salata, the hospital's physician-in-chief.

And at Sanford Health, which runs 44 medical centers and more than 200 clinics across the Dakotas, Minnesota and Iowa, less than 5% of the 1,456 patients admitted with COVID-19 so far this year were fully vaccinated, said spokesperson Angela Dejene.

Falling rates of COVID-19 across the United States mask a harsh reality – the overwhelming majority of those getting sick and being hospitalized today are unvaccinated, while vaccinated patients are becoming rare.


Hospitals in states with the lowest vaccination rates tend to have more COVID-19 patients in intensive care units, according to hospital data collected in the past week by the Department of Health and Human Services and vaccination rates published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Wyoming, Missouri, Arkansas and Idaho currently have the highest percentage of COVID-19 patients on average in their ICUs; those states all have vaccinated less than 40% of their population.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/06/16/majority-covid-19-hospital-patients-us-now-unvaccinated-younger/7684857002/

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Are you familiar with positivity rate? Apparently not.

Deaths follow/lag cases. We know this. The case surge in July led to the death surge in August.

Lol you don't even know how the viruses are transmitted so let's not go there

[Ghenghis Kahn]

SARS-CoV-2 is highly contagious but it's not deadly. They have genetically modified viruses that are 100x more lethal ready to go at any minute.

It's all a game to them. Yes certain amount of people need to get the poison or else they'll start releasing the more lethal ones.

That's why this situation is tricky but either way, we are fukked

[ronald]

What's funny is that leftists are the ones who historically don't trust Big Pharma, yet they are blindly and obediently taking a vaccine because they've been scared to leave the house for over a year. Not to mention the fact that this vaccine was developed an pushed through thanks in no small part to an aggressive anti-regulatory Trump administration.

What a silly little group of people.

[jjgold]

Get the vaccine period

It works

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Get the vaccine period

It works

What is your science background?

Like I said, get your booster shots ASAP, it'll save you from death or not

[d2bets]

SARS-CoV-2 is highly contagious but it's not deadly. They have genetically modified viruses that are 100x more lethal ready to go at any minute.

It's all a game to them. Yes certain amount of people need to get the poison or else they'll start releasing the more lethal ones.

That's why this situation is tricky but either way, we are fukked

Tell that to the families of 600k dead Americans.

It's not extremely lethal, certainly could imagine much worse, but yeah it's dangerous and can be deadly.

[Mac4Lyfe]

A lot of brainwashed Commies on SBR that think the government should decide what's best for us

How do you equate taking the vaccine to people letting government decide what's best for them? Who in government brainwashed millions of people? Trump? Biden? Do you know the definition of communism? These vaccines were created by corporate America NOT government. Companies were in it mainly for profit. You sound like you know what's best for people? You say everyone should have a choice but you disparage the people who chose to get the needle???

[ronald]

Tell that to the families of 600k dead Americans.

It's not extremely lethal, certainly could imagine much worse, but yeah it's dangerous and can be deadly.

Governor Cuomo owes some families of dead Americans an apology.

Remember him? He was your god once upon a time.

Mr. Kahn is not responsible for the disaster that took place in primarily BLUE states.

[Allure]

SARS-CoV-2 is highly contagious but it's not deadly. They have genetically modified viruses that are 100x more lethal ready to go at any minute.

It's all a game to them. Yes certain amount of people need to get the poison or else they'll start releasing the more lethal ones.

That's why this situation is tricky but either way, we are fukked

Who is "they" and why would you know all this?