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  • Otters27
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    • 07-14-07
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    #1
    Charging an error to the outfielder?
    If an outfielder misjudges a line drive type fly ball and it sails over his head and doesn't touch his glove should be ruled an error
  • beantown34
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    • 12-31-13
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    #2
    depends. but yes they mostly grade hideous mistakes in the outfield as a hit
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    • JoeCool20
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      #3
      Originally posted by Otters27
      If an outfielder misjudges a line drive type fly ball and it sails over his head and doesn't touch his glove should be ruled an error
      Originally posted by beantown34
      depends. but yes they mostly grade hideous mistakes in the outfield as a hit
      Yes if you/they don't touch the ball, then it most always isn't an error. No matter how egregious it looks.
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      • Otters27
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        #4
        Originally posted by JoeCool20
        Yes if you/they don't touch the ball, then it most always isn't an error. No matter how egregious it looks.
        Ok. That's what I thought.
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        • pavyracer
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          • 04-12-07
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          #5
          Of course is an error. The outfielder needs to make that catch as he has all the time in the world to track the trajectory of the ball and adjust.
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          • Otters27
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            #6
            Originally posted by pavyracer
            Of course is an error. The outfielder needs to make that catch as he has all the time in the world to track the trajectory of the ball and adjust.
            It was a line shot over the outfielders head. The outfielder ran in at first but then it was too late. I've never seen that called an error.
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            • beantown34
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              #7
              Originally posted by Otters27
              It was a line shot over the outfielders head. The outfielder ran in at first but then it was too late. I've never seen that called an error.
              score judges have motives sometimes
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              • KVB
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                #8
                An error is a statistic charged against a fielder whose action has assisted the team on offense, as set forth in this Rule 9.12. (a) The Official Scorer shall charge an error against any fielder: (1) whose misplay (fumble, muff or wild throw) prolongs the time at bat of a batter, prolongs the presence on...


                ...The Official Scorer shall charge an outfielder with an error if such outfielder allows a fly ball to drop to the ground if, in the Official Scorer’s judgment, an outfielder at that position making ordinary effort would have caught such fly ball...
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                • Otters27
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by beantown34
                  score judges have motives sometimes
                  The score guy gave his kid a hit on a dribbler to the pitcher that hit off the pitchers glove but called the line drive over my Nephew's head an error. Mind you these are 7th graders
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                  • KVB
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                    • 05-29-14
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                    #10
                    Wait, we're talking about 7th graders or mlb?

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                    • Otters27
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by KVB
                      Wait, we're talking about 7th graders or mlb?

                      7th graders. I'm just curious if I should call this guy out or not.
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                      • fried cheese
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                        #12
                        hah
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                        • KiDBaZkiT
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                          • 10-20-09
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                          #13
                          Otters did you lose a prop or something?
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                          • pavyracer
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                            #14
                            7th graders? Are you serious? Most of the score keepers in my kids leagues don't know how to score the game.
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                            • Otters27
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                              Otters did you lose a prop or something?
                              Ya no errors for my Nephew's team
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                              • Otters27
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                7th graders? Are you serious? Most of the score keepers in my kids leagues don't know how to score the game.
                                Yes serious question. Again the score keeper gifted his kid a hit when the other teams score keeper said he reached on an error and he gave my Nephew an error when he misjudged the fly ball...(other team gave the hitter a HR not an error as the ball was smoked and hit all the way to the fence.

                                I'm just wanting to know if I should call the guy out.

                                I'm actually fine with charging my nephew with the error but if he is giving his kid a hit for a weak ground ball that the pitcher mishandled then you can't call an outfielder error for misjudgung a ball that was smoked
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                                • jtoler
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                                  • 12-17-13
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                                  #17
                                  this happened to me in little league actually I charged ball when hit and went over head very embarrassing but redeemed myself by picking up ball and slinging to home plate(fk cut off men) pitcher caught it and threw guy out at home
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                                  • KiDBaZkiT
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                                    • 10-20-09
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Otters27
                                    Ya no errors for my Nephew's team
                                    Not laughing at you losing but just the fact I knew that had to be the reason you asked this question
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                                    • stevenash
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                                      • 01-17-11
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                                      #19
                                      Nine times out of ten it's an error.
                                      Official scorer has the final say on this, but 9 out of 10 times he scores it an E
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                                      • Otters27
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                        Nine times out of ten it's an error.
                                        Official scorer has the final say on this, but 9 out of 10 times he scores it an E
                                        Ok. So dribbler off the pitchers glove should be an error then right
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                                        • KVB
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Otters27
                                          7th graders. I'm just curious if I should call this guy out or not.
                                          No, stay peaceful Otters.

                                          Don’t become a viral video.
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                                          • fried cheese
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Otters27
                                            Yes serious question. Again the score keeper gifted his kid a hit when the other teams score keeper said he reached on an error and he gave my Nephew an error when he misjudged the fly ball...(other team gave the hitter a HR not an error as the ball was smoked and hit all the way to the fence.

                                            I'm just wanting to know if I should call the guy out.

                                            I'm actually fine with charging my nephew with the error but if he is giving his kid a hit for a weak ground ball that the pitcher mishandled then you can't call an outfielder error for misjudgung a ball that was smoked
                                            if it was the scorers actual child that he gave a hit to instead of an error then i think you have the right to complain about the error call on your nephew. you just have to judge whether it is important enough to you to go through the effort and you looking kinda crazy to the other parents.
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                                            • Otters27
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by fried cheese
                                              if it was the scorers actual child that he gave a hit to instead of an error then i think you have the right to complain about the error call on your nephew. you just have to judge whether it is important enough to you to go through the effort and you looking kinda crazy to the other parents.
                                              I'm gonnt chill. Just hope someone catches the guy giving hits to his kid when they are errors
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                                              • pavyracer
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                                                #24
                                                Otters don't say anything. The score keepers are volunteers. If you say something they will make you be the score keeper for the rest of the games and if you make an error scoring you will hear an earful. Just chill.
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                                                • Otters27
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  Otters don't say anything. The score keepers are volunteers. If you say something they will make you be the score keeper for the rest of the games and if you make an error scoring you will hear an earful. Just chill.
                                                  Ya I'm going to chill. Keep in mind these guys don't volunteer out of the good of there heart. They do it for obvious motives
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                                                  • Otters27
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jtoler
                                                    this happened to me in little league actually I charged ball when hit and went over head very embarrassing but redeemed myself by picking up ball and slinging to home plate(fk cut off men) pitcher caught it and threw guy out at home
                                                    He'll yess
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                                                    • Otters27
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by fried cheese
                                                      if it was the scorers actual child that he gave a hit to instead of an error then i think you have the right to complain about the error call on your nephew. you just have to judge whether it is important enough to you to go through the effort and you looking kinda crazy to the other parents.
                                                      Well ya he gave his child a hit on the dribbler to the pitcher but an error on my nephew for a ball smoked over his head. So what is it seems like he has a paradox going
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                                                      • KiDBaZkiT
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                                                        • 10-20-09
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                                                        #28
                                                        Otters next time just bet there will be an error and have the little nephew mess up. It’s simple.
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                                                        • MinnesotaFats
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                                                          • 12-18-10
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                                                          #29
                                                          Otters,

                                                          Make your own book w rulings and add hits to your nephews column.

                                                          Then, when coach is giving the post game pep talk or filling in the dirt in the batters box, you switch out the books.

                                                          Very Oceans 11 stuff here, but once year end stats are published, nephew might get a full ride D1
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                                                          • stevenash
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                            Otters,

                                                            Make your own book w rulings and add hits to your nephews column.

                                                            Then, when coach is giving the post game pep talk or filling in the dirt in the batters box, you switch out the books.

                                                            Very Oceans 11 stuff here, but once year end stats are published, nephew might get a full ride D1
                                                            I know people who credit the OBA for a batter that reached base on an error.
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                                                            • Otters27
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                              Otters,

                                                              Make your own book w rulings and add hits to your nephews column.

                                                              Then, when coach is giving the post game pep talk or filling in the dirt in the batters box, you switch out the books.

                                                              Very Oceans 11 stuff here, but once year end stats are published, nephew might get a full ride D1
                                                              Stats are electronic. It's 2021
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                                                              • KVB
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Otters27
                                                                Stats are electronic. It's 2021
                                                                Same plan minnyfats had, he's just sooooo early 20th century.

                                                                Nowadays you just get a hacker.

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                                                                • RudyRuetigger
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                  Otters don't say anything. The score keepers are volunteers. If you say something they will make you be the score keeper for the rest of the games and if you make an error scoring you will hear an earful. Just chill.
                                                                  like i said in another thread



                                                                  this is the same guy that claimed to play college ball AS A WALKON WITH NO STATS


                                                                  he needs his ass beat


                                                                  probably smallish town where he thinks he is the shit



                                                                  NEEDS PUT IN HIS PLACE
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