SBR Lines

**onlooker** · 11-01-05, 12:22 AM

Not matching up for me either Dave.

**onlooker** · 11-01-05, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by onlòóker

Not matching up for me either Dave.

On other hand, I was looking at the opener. They do match up.

Try rechecking David, and see if you were looking at the opening line, instead of the CRIS column.

**David** · 11-01-05, 12:31 AM

Am checking the right column. Are they giving me a different set of lines?

CRIS
----
TENNESSEE +3 -120
CLEVELAND -3 +100

SBR Odds
---------
TENNESSEE +3 -110
CLEVELAND -3 -110

**onlooker** · 11-01-05, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by David

Am checking the right column. Are they giving me a different set of lines?

CRIS
----
TENNESSEE +3 -120
CLEVELAND -3 +100

SBR Odds
---------
TENNESSEE +3 -110
CLEVELAND -3 -110

Yeah a few of them have a different vig, but all the spreads I think are right. Some of them are -120/100 instead of -110/-110.

That I do see.

**David** · 11-01-05, 12:35 AM

Okay so we're seeing the same thing. Thanks.

**onlooker** · 11-01-05, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by David

Okay so we're seeing the same thing. Thanks.

Yep, sorry about the confusion.

**Dave** · 11-01-05, 09:53 AM

Cris deals a differnt line on the feed than they do on the site for spreads of - and + 3. I was told if you login you will see the correct line, I dont really understand why but they did say they will try to get that corrected in the feed.

**Ganchrow** · 11-01-05, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by Dave

Cris deals a differnt line on the feed than they do on the site for spreads of - and + 3. I was told if you login you will see the correct line, I dont really understand why but they did say they will try to get that corrected in the feed.

I would think that we'd want the feed lines to match the "logged in lines" as those on which we might actually bet. As such, it would seem as if it isn't the SBR feed itself which needs fixing, but rather the "not logged in lines". Does that makes sense?

**Dave** · 11-01-05, 10:27 AM

I hear ya, but we cant show what we dont have. The feed would have to be fixed to correct this. It is the feed itself that needs to be fixed, we can only show what the feed contains.

**SBR_John** · 11-01-05, 10:34 AM

Just Holly and Oly with no NBA lines.... but looking sharp!

**Dave** · 11-01-05, 11:18 AM

ful grid now,

AWE RIGHT!!!

**Ganchrow** · 11-01-05, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Dave

I hear ya, but we cant show what we dont have. The feed would have to be fixed to correct this. It is the feed itself that needs to be fixed, we can only show what the feed contains.

But you DO have it. The grid ALREADY matches the logged in lines. It doesn't match the not-logged in lines. I think changing the feed to match the not-logged in lines would be a mistake.

**onlooker** · 11-01-05, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by ganchrow

I think changing the feed to match the not-logged in lines would be a mistake.

I agree. Better to show the lines you will be betting then the ones that you will not.

**Dave** · 11-02-05, 12:13 AM

ok so then the lines are correct on SBRlines and not correct on the CRIS site for users not logged in?

So were good?

**David** · 11-02-05, 02:02 AM

The odds appear the same at CRIS whether I'm logged in or not. The SBR Odds however are not all matching up. Here's an example:

CRIS (logged in)
---------------
TENNESSEE +3 -125
CLEVELAND -3 +105

CRIS (not logged in)
---------------
TENNESSEE +3 -125
CLEVELAND -3 +105

SBR Odds
---------
TENNESSEE +3 -110
CLEVELAND -3 -110

**Ganchrow** · 11-02-05, 03:05 AM

Originally posted by David

The odds appear the same at CRIS whether I'm logged in or not. The SBR Odds however are not all matching up. Here's an example:

CRIS (logged in)
---------------
TENNESSEE +3 -125
CLEVELAND -3 +105

CRIS (not logged in)
---------------
TENNESSEE +3 -125
CLEVELAND -3 +105

SBR Odds
---------
TENNESSEE +3 -110
CLEVELAND -3 -110

OK, I'm seeing the same not logged in lines as you, but my logged in lines match the SBR Odds.

I spoke to Mark at CRIS customer service (866 238 2747) who swore up and down that the not logged in lines were a stale line set and represented a glitch in their system. I asked if it were possible that because I have never placed an NFL bet I might be receiving a different line set from those who do. He assured me that this is not the case.

All CRIS's NBA lines do match up, but at this point it's unclear what's going on with their NFL lines. David: perhaps you could just check once again that you are indeed seeing the same line set when logged in and when not. If so, perhaps you could also call Mark at CRIS CS and see what he tells you when faced with identical line sets. I'm anxious to get to the bottom of this.

**GJMike** · 11-02-05, 10:08 AM

Maybe I can be of help... Smith, or any other tech, are you getting lines from their lines.asmx? You can email me if not and i can point you to another feed...

VegasMike01@aol.com

**bigboydan** · 11-02-05, 11:10 AM

thanks for offering mike

**tacomax** · 11-02-05, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by ganchrow

I spoke to Mark at CRIS customer service (866 238 2747) who swore up and down that the not logged in lines were a stale line set and represented a glitch in their system. I asked if it were possible that because I have never placed an NFL bet I might be receiving a different line set from those who do. He assured me that this is not the case.

Betcris definately deal dual lines. I know that for a fact.

**David** · 11-02-05, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by tacomax

Betcris definately deal dual lines. I know that for a fact.

This appears to be the case. I'm showing the following line when logged in:

TENNESSEE +3 -125
CLEVELAND -3 +105

Is anybody else seeing this line when they are logged in to CRIS? Any idea what line they would give me if I were to call in a bet on this game?

**Ganchrow** · 11-02-05, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by David

Is anybody else seeing this line when they are logged in to CRIS? Any idea what line they would give me if I were to call in a bet on this game?

Try calling and asking them. I'd be anxious to hear their story.

**GJMike** · 11-02-05, 02:13 PM

someone check out our lines from CRIS and see if we have the same problem. If we dont I am happy to share our feed with the boys from SBR.

Our lines:

http://www.gjupdate.com/litelinesv2/default.aspx

Spot 10 right now represents CRIS

**David** · 11-02-05, 02:23 PM

Your lines are the same as SBR GJMike. CRIS apparently gives out different lines to different accounts. That is why mine don't match up. I sent an e-mail to CRIS asking them about this. I'll let you guys know if they respond.

**GJMike** · 11-02-05, 02:30 PM

Yea, I noticed everything is -110 on ours too. Straight from the feed:

<game idgm="348905" vtm="TENNESSEE" htm="CLEVELAND" idspt="NFL" idlg="1" idgmtyp="9" normgm="1" gmdt="20051106" gmtm="10:00:00" vnum="411" hnum="412" gmstat="O" graded="F" nohook="F" per="0" pargame="348905" vpt="" hpt="" pchg="T">
<line idlt="8" vodds="130" hodds="-150" ov="39" ovodds="-110" un="39" unodds="-110" vsprd="3" vsprdodds="-110" hsprd="-3" hsprdodds="-110" vsp="999999" vspodds="999999" hsp="999999" hspodds="999999" />
</game>

**David** · 11-02-05, 03:31 PM

Here's the response I got back from CRIS:

>We carry the same line for our customers, the line may vary sometimes if you
>are looking at them online from the Live Lines section instead of logging
>in. When you are logged in, that is the most updated line.

**David** · 11-02-05, 03:34 PM

Still showing TENNESSEE +3 -125 when logged in. Their response is not accurate.

**Ganchrow** · 11-03-05, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by GJMike

Our lines:

http://www.gjupdate.com/litelinesv2/default.aspx

Spot 10 right now represents CRIS

What do all the other spots represent?

**tacomax** · 11-03-05, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by David

Here's the response I got back from CRIS:

>We carry the same line for our customers, the line may vary sometimes if you
>are looking at them online from the Live Lines section instead of logging
>in. When you are logged in, that is the most updated line.

Someone I know went on Cris and was dealt a different line to what I was seeing. We were on the betting screens at the same time. These irregularities tend to occur on the -3/+3 side bets on football.

**Max Levine** · 11-03-05, 10:55 AM

I get the same lines:
Logged out
Tennessee +3 -125
Cleveland -3 +105

Logged in
Tennessee +3 -110
Cleveland -3 -110

Same for Chi/NO, Cin/Bal. In fact, all the logged in lines are -110.

I think I've only placed 5 NFL bets with betcris and lost 3 of them. I'm much more successful at NHL picks and I get the same lines there.

Max

**GJMike** · 11-03-05, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by ganchrow

What do all the other spots represent?

Hover over the lines, when you click on them you get archives. But if you dont click you can look at the link and see the sportsbook. They are changing soon though because we have many books requesting to be on that screen. We have 5 books in so far, and many on the hook.