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  • Eddy Munny
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    #1
    Baylor Bears Plus the Points Tonight
    Comprehensive Analysis:

    Gonzaga gonna trot out some big ole cracka jacks to work the paint like it's the YMCA men's league but Baylor got them colored cats to zig zag and jitterbug, rain some threes and cross up them white folk.

    We may have a 2007 New England Patriots situation on hand tonight boys.

  • jjgold
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    • 07-20-05
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    #2
    Why not they are big time also
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    • CantFeelMyFace
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      #3
      All over it. Let's be honest. The best teams Gonzaga has played is USC and UCLA. Both decent teams, UCLA ton of heart. Baylor has played tough competition all year and should honestly be undefeated if not for Covid IMO. Baylor on another level athletically, defensively, 3 point shooting, playmaking in Mitchell. I'm not sure Gonzaga will have an answer for #45. Guy is a wrecking ball. If Baylor is making their 3's, I think they win. Baylor ran through Arkansas who put up a tough fight and are a hell of a team, and then made Houston look like a bunch of scrubs. Baylor is much more battle tested in the tournament, and also in the regular season.
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      • Ghenghis Kahn
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        • 01-02-12
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        #4
        Gambler's mindset for this game... Baylor had an easy win and Gonzaga struggled against the lowly UCLA

        Baylor getting points? Give me Baylor plus the points

        Not so fast, Gonzaga will win and cover the spread
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        • unde0087
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          #5
          Zags will roll on these fools Eddy, sorry pal
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          • CantFeelMyFace
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            #6
            Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
            Gambler's mindset for this game... Baylor had an easy win and Gonzaga struggled against the lowly UCLA

            Baylor getting points? Give me Baylor plus the points

            Not so fast, Gonzaga will win and cover the spread

            You may be right. All i know is the highest seed Gonzaga has played is a 6 seed. The teams they beat in the regular season that were ranked play no defense except for WVU who almost beat them, and BYU even gave them a tough fight. Baylor will be by FAR the best defensive team they have ever seen. Baylor is also the best 3 point shooting team in the country. They were also undefeated in a wayyy better conference before they got COVID.
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            • unde0087
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              #7
              Originally posted by CantFeelMyFace
              You may be right. All i know is the highest seed Gonzaga has played is a 6 seed. The teams they beat in the regular season that were ranked play no defense except for WVU who almost beat them, and BYU even gave them a tough fight. Baylor will be by FAR the best defensive team they have ever seen. Baylor is also the best 3 point shooting team in the country. They were also undefeated in a wayyy better conference before they got COVID.
              Can Baylor win sure but comparing what other teams did against other teams doesn't mean much here. Baylor does well against isolation teams because they have a top defender but Zags can put up points in bunches with anyone on the court and pass the ball well. If Baylor hits threes they will be tough to beat but I wouldn't be surprised to watch them start to miss those shots on the biggest stage. They better hit them because Timme will be eating tonight. GL to all of you. Someone will be bringing home the bacon.
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              • pologq
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                • 10-07-12
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                #8
                anyone know what the spread was before the ucla game for this game? like how many points did it come down because of how close UCLA was to Gonzaga.
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                • Eddy Munny
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                  Gambler's mindset for this game... Baylor had an easy win and Gonzaga struggled against the lowly UCLA

                  Baylor getting points? Give me Baylor plus the points

                  Not so fast, Gonzaga will win and cover the spread
                  Nah, I'm not penalizing Gonzaga for the UCLA game, it's just that Baylor is every bit as good and they're the ones catching four and a half points. If these teams played a series like the NBA, it'd likely go the full seven... But it's one game at a neutral site, and I'm getting more points than I probably should on account of the fact that the other team is undefeated.
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                  • ChuckyTheGoat
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                    #10
                    Any opinion on the Gonzaga personnel? I know they now get top recruits and got a tfr from Florida. Two comments:

                    1) They still play in a mid-major conference. They don't go thru the grind of playing Hvy-wts back-to-back.

                    2) When I saw them play, I was surprised that they have two white guys as top players. For 30 years, the white guys have bricked the NBA...w/ possible exception of Kevin Love. Are Timmie and Kispert up against it tonite?
                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                    • Laurence89
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                      Gambler's mindset for this game... Baylor had an easy win and Gonzaga struggled against the lowly UCLA

                      Baylor getting points? Give me Baylor plus the points

                      Not so fast, Gonzaga will win and cover the spread
                      Gamblers mindset would also say gonzaga is undefeated Baylor lost games...easy game for zags
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                      • Ghenghis Kahn
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                        • 01-02-12
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Laurence89
                        Gamblers mindset would also say gonzaga is undefeated Baylor lost games...easy game for zags
                        Gamblers have that "what have you done for me lately" attitude. They judge teams by their last games mostly
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                        • unde0087
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Laurence89
                          Gamblers mindset would also say gonzaga is undefeated Baylor lost games...easy game for zags
                          If that is how anyone handicapped this they need some fukin help immediately
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                          • Ghenghis Kahn
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                            • 01-02-12
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                            Nah, I'm not penalizing Gonzaga for the UCLA game, it's just that Baylor is every bit as good and they're the ones catching four and a half points. If these teams played a series like the NBA, it'd likely go the full seven... But it's one game at a neutral site, and I'm getting more points than I probably should on account of the fact that the other team is undefeated.
                            UCLA played a perfect game. I know it's high scoring but UCLA actually slowed the pace down where Gonzaga was almost uncomfortable. Gonzaga likes to run more so than Baylor imo. We'll see. GL
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                            • KVB
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                              Any opinion on the Gonzaga personnel? I know they now get top recruits and got a tfr from Florida. Two comments:

                              1) They still play in a mid-major conference. They don't go thru the grind of playing Hvy-wts back-to-back.

                              2) When I saw them play, I was surprised that they have two white guys as top players. For 30 years, the white guys have bricked the NBA...w/ possible exception of Kevin Love. Are Timmie and Kispert up against it tonite?
                              Gonzaga is one of the best 2 pt shooting teams in the history of the game.

                              They opened the season playing Kansas, Auburn, West Virginia, then would have played Baylor but it was cancelled.

                              After some cancellations they then played Iowa and then two games later played Virginia.

                              Only West Virginia kept it in single digits. Maybe not all heavy weights, but there is some weight on those opponents. At least it can't or shouldn't be ignored.
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                              • unde0087
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by KVB
                                Gonzaga is one of the best 2 pt shooting teams in the history of the game.

                                They opened the season playing Kansas, Auburn, West Virginia, then would have played Baylor but it was cancelled.

                                After some cancellations they then played Iowa and then two games later played Virginia.

                                Only West Virginia kept it in single digits. Maybe not all heavy weights, but there is some weight on those opponents.
                                apparently, most commenting earlier forgot about that part of the season
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                                • BOA12
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                                  • 02-19-12
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                                  #17
                                  I like the Under.
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                                  • jtoler
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                    Gonzaga is one of the best 2 pt shooting teams in the history of the game.

                                    They opened the season playing Kansas, Auburn, West Virginia, then would have played Baylor but it was cancelled.

                                    After some cancellations they then played Iowa and then two games later played Virginia.

                                    Only West Virginia kept it in single digits. Maybe not all heavy weights, but there is some weight on those opponents. At least it can't or shouldn't be ignored.
                                    ku was not up to par this year really(for kansas), they do not score easily. auburn never had a chance too young and not good enough, I watched the west virginia game and another game where west virginia did nothing special but had gonzaga on the ropes and was leading the entire game ajayi is the x factor for zags he sparks things on both sides of the ball when they really need it. iowa can only score(mainly from distance) they dont play defense well enough to be elite. baylor is shooting the highest 3 pt percentage in the country when u watch u wouldnt think so and they did it in the big 12
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                                    • KVB
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by unde0087
                                      apparently, most commenting earlier forgot about that part of the season
                                      Yeah, Gonza knows where they stand and aren't afraid to book the games for it, increasing that SOS.

                                      The fact that they can wrangle transfers and attract top recruits pretty much takes them out of the mid major discussion, especially when they are running through power conference teams.
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                                      • JIBBBY
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                                        #20
                                        Flip a coin who knows?
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                                        • goduke
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by CantFeelMyFace
                                          You may be right. All i know is the highest seed Gonzaga has played is a 6 seed. The teams they beat in the regular season that were ranked play no defense except for WVU who almost beat them, and BYU even gave them a tough fight. Baylor will be by FAR the best defensive team they have ever seen. Baylor is also the best 3 point shooting team in the country. They were also undefeated in a wayyy better conference before they got COVID.
                                          Oh man this is clueless rationale.
                                          Baylor on kenpom is 27th in adjusted D
                                          USC is 5th(actual best defensive team zags have faced)
                                          Kansas who zags played is 14th
                                          Byu who zags played is 29th
                                          West v is 70th so your statement is again inaccurate.
                                          As for best 3 point team in the country, yes you finally got one statement right except it doesn’t matter. Look at the teams that lead that year in and year out.
                                          Do your research it’s not hard it’s all out there to find
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                                          • goduke
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by CantFeelMyFace
                                            You may be right. All i know is the highest seed Gonzaga has played is a 6 seed. The teams they beat in the regular season that were ranked play no defense except for WVU who almost beat them, and BYU even gave them a tough fight. Baylor will be by FAR the best defensive team they have ever seen. Baylor is also the best 3 point shooting team in the country. They were also undefeated in a wayyy better conference before they got COVID.
                                            Also zags led this game for the last 6 minutes against West Virginia. I would say “almost got beat” is quite an exaggeration
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                                            • MrMiami
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                                              • KVB
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                                                #24
                                                Going for the middle here...

                                                2 Units on Gonzaga -190
                                                2 Units on Baylor +4.5 (-102)

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                                                • 209 Life
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                                                  #25
                                                  On Baylor +4 -105
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                                                  • Eddy Munny
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                                    Going for the middle here...

                                                    2 Units on Gonzaga -190
                                                    2 Units on Baylor +4.5 (-102)

                                                    I wouldn't even know how to watch a game like that...

                                                    "Alright let's go Zags!"

                                                    "Hey now, rein it in a bit"

                                                    "C'mon Baylor make it a game for crissakes"

                                                    "Whoa there Bears, I didn't say take the damn lead"

                                                    "Thaat's more like Gonzaga, let's get the dubya... nice and easy"

                                                    "Hey, hey, hey calm down fellas... no need to pull away. Fukkin relax."
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                                                    • KVB
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                                                      #27
                                                      Simple Eddy.

                                                      No rooting allowed until the last 30 seconds, if the bet is still alive then.

                                                      Let's face it, after a 39 plus minutes of play, those last seconds are all that matter anyway.
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                                                      • CantFeelMyFace
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by goduke
                                                        Oh man this is clueless rationale.
                                                        Baylor on kenpom is 27th in adjusted D
                                                        USC is 5th(actual best defensive team zags have faced)
                                                        Kansas who zags played is 14th
                                                        Byu who zags played is 29th
                                                        West v is 70th so your statement is again inaccurate.
                                                        As for best 3 point team in the country, yes you finally got one statement right except it doesn’t matter. Look at the teams that lead that year in and year out.
                                                        Do your research it’s not hard it’s all out there to find
                                                        You shouldn't talk. You think they pay Gonzaga to "play down" to UCLA. Go back to your cave.
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                                                        • JIBBBY
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                                                          #29
                                                          When in question just go with the dog and points and pray for the best ..

                                                          Baylor it is.
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                                                          • johnnyvegas13
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                                                            #30
                                                            Ur square eddy
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                                                            • goduke
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by CantFeelMyFace
                                                              You shouldn't talk. You think they pay Gonzaga to "play down" to UCLA. Go back to your cave.
                                                              So rattling off all the wrong points when its as easy as looking them up is okay? My statement you actually have no factual evidence to say isnt true. Your statement there is a plethora of information that shows you are an idiot. You lose
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                                                              • pablo222
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by KVB
                                                                Going for the middle here...

                                                                2 Units on Gonzaga -190
                                                                2 Units on Baylor +4.5 (-102)

                                                                I have been mulling this over a bit.
                                                                I might have to pull trigger now
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                                                                • maggiethebestdog
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                                                                  • 12-21-13
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by goduke
                                                                  Oh man this is clueless rationale.
                                                                  Baylor on kenpom is 27th in adjusted D
                                                                  USC is 5th(actual best defensive team zags have faced)
                                                                  Kansas who zags played is 14th
                                                                  Byu who zags played is 29th
                                                                  West v is 70th so your statement is again inaccurate.
                                                                  As for best 3 point team in the country, yes you finally got one statement right except it doesn’t matter. Look at the teams that lead that year in and year out.
                                                                  Do your research it’s not hard it’s all out there to find
                                                                  LOL

                                                                  I didn't think it was possible for you to embarrass yourself more than after the last game, but you stepped up to the plate and proved me wrong

                                                                  Congrats

                                                                  My God
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                                                                  • KVB
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by pablo222
                                                                    I have been mulling this over a bit.
                                                                    I might have to pull trigger now
                                                                    Almost game time!

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                                                                    • Memento
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Too many heroes in here betting on Baylor...Zags by 15
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