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  • d2bets
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    #1
    Barstool Buzzer Beater Promo
    Barstool Sportsbook has a wild buzzer beater promo.

    O1.5 (-180) buzzer beaters. That's defined as a game winning FG with subsequent clock stopped at 2.0 seconds less in regulation or OT. You then get a bonus multiplier if it's at least 1 full BB over the total. So if you bet the O1.5 and there are 3BB, you get a 2x bonus from stake. 4 BB = 4x bonus; 5=6x bonus; 6=8x bonus. Max stake $10k.

    Here's the stats: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb...r-beaters.html

    Back out the free throws and the record is still strong. I see 10-4 in the last 14 years. And 7 of the 10 would have multipliers including 8x in 2016 with 6 BB.

    What I missing?

    Convince me not to put $10k on this.

    Plus, serious entertainment value.

  • rm18
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    • 09-20-05
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    #2
    It seems like slight fluke maybe like when Jason Williams missed 17 straight FTs or when Pats score first 17 times in a row even though always deferred. Or when the Rockets won 22 in a row with an average team. Pointsbet has a bet 20k at -250 or less and get $1999 in fp that one is better and is not so all or nothing.
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    • jjgold
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      • 07-20-05
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      #3
      why not try it
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      • Chi_archie
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        • 07-22-08
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        #4
        interesting

        to be clear, the shot has to win the game? a 3 to tie the game and send it to OT would NOT count, correct?
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        • dmm
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          #5
          Originally posted by d2bets
          Barstool Sportsbook has a wild buzzer beater promo.

          O1.5 (-180) buzzer beaters. That's defined as a game winning FG with subsequent clock stopped at 2.0 seconds less in regulation or OT. You then get a bonus multiplier if it's at least 1 full BB over the total. So if you bet the O1.5 and there are 3BB, you get a 2x bonus from stake. 4 BB = 4x bonus; 5=6x bonus; 6=8x bonus. Max stake $10k.

          Here's the stats: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb...r-beaters.html

          Back out the free throws and the record is still strong. I see 10-4 in the last 14 years. And 7 of the 10 would have multipliers including 8x in 2016 with 6 BB.

          What I missing?

          Convince me not to put $10k on this.

          Plus, serious entertainment value.

          They're going to let you bet $10k on a promo?
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          • d2bets
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            #6
            Originally posted by Chi_archie
            interesting

            to be clear, the shot has to win the game? a 3 to tie the game and send it to OT would NOT count, correct?
            Correct. Has to be a game winner.

            I was wondering if Team A hits go-ahead shot at 1.8 and then Team B scores to send it to OT where Team A wins...does that count? I'll assume not.
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            • d2bets
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              #7
              Originally posted by dmm
              They're going to let you bet $10k on s promo?
              That's exactly what it says.

              I know, why would they do that if it's a good deal?

              But the numbers sure do seem to support it. Unless I'm misreading something, it looks to me like a +EV bet even without the multiplier.
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              • Chi_archie
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                • 07-22-08
                • 63172

                #8
                Looks like it is

                "per round"

                so you'd need to get 2 buzzer beaters out of the first round (i'm assuming the 32 games and not adding the play-in games)

                you can re-bet it for the 2nd, 3rd round ect... but i'm hoping they would give updated odds for when you only have 16, 8, 4 games...

                with the first round games. You know a good chunk will have zero chance of being close enough for a buzzer beater
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                • d2bets
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chi_archie
                  Looks like it is

                  "per round"

                  so you'd need to get 2 buzzer beaters out of the first round (i'm assuming the 32 games and not adding the play-in games)

                  you can re-bet it for the 2nd, 3rd round ect... but i'm hoping they would give updated odds for when you only have 16, 8, 4 games...

                  with the first round games. You know a good chunk will have zero chance of being close enough for a buzzer beater
                  No. They have it both ways. They have a total BB for the entire tourney at 1.5. Or you can bet the round of 64 or each day. I think the total tourney bet is the best one for sure. Looking at the chart, more BB happen in later rounds than in the first round. Which makes sense. A bunch of the first round matchups are not going to be close. But anything after Round 1 could be.

                  So yes, they will do it by round and update later, but at this point I think the total tourney one at O1.5 is best. Also more gives means more chance to get to the big multipliers.
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                  • Chi_archie
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                    • 07-22-08
                    • 63172

                    #10
                    oh I see

                    the entire tourney, all games is over 1.5 -180


                    round of 64 friday games over .5 +140

                    round of 64 saturday games over .5 +140
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                    • d2bets
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Chi_archie
                      oh I see

                      the entire tourney, all games is over 1.5 -180


                      round of 64 friday games over .5 +140

                      round of 64 saturday games over .5 +140
                      Yeah and they have full round of 64 at over 0.5-190.

                      Entire tourney is the way to go to have the best chance to hit the multipliers.
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                      • MrMiami
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                        • 10-24-09
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                        #12
                        Are there rollover requirements on the bonus multiplier payouts?
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                        • d2bets
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by MrMiami
                          Are there rollover requirements on the bonus multiplier payouts?
                          Yes. 1x rollover on -200 or higher.
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                          • pologq
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                            • 10-07-12
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                            #14
                            if you can afford the bet i think it is worth it
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                            • d2bets
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by pologq
                              if you can afford the bet i think it is worth it
                              Not like it has to be 10k. It can be anything up to 10k. I'm just trying to ascertain how +EV this is. I think it's super +EV, but I'm trying to figure out if I'm missing something. I know there's some risk in games possibly being canceled.
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                              • TommieGunshot
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                                #16
                                I would be willing to bet up to -200 without the bonus. At -180, plus a bonus, it definitely looks like it should be worth taking a max bet on.
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                                • d2bets
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                                  I would be willing to bet up to -200 without the bonus. At -180, plus a bonus, it definitely looks like it should be worth taking a max bet on.
                                  Thanks for the input. I agree, but I'm still trying to figure out why they are offering this and what I might be missing. But I think I am going to fire away. Plus, it's fun as hell to have this on the line for the inevitable late close games.
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                                  • pologq
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                                    • 10-07-12
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by d2bets
                                    Thanks for the input. I agree, but I'm still trying to figure out why they are offering this and what I might be missing. But I think I am going to fire away. Plus, it's fun as hell to have this on the line for the inevitable late close games.
                                    maybe they have it as a way to drum up some interest in their book with a pretty likely bet. might be overthinking the reason.
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                                    • TheMetsSuck
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                                      #19
                                      I’d bet it if barstool was legal in Cali
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                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                        • 08-29-08
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                                        #20
                                        Seems like the value is there.....like you said whats the catch
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                                        • d2bets
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pologq
                                          maybe they have it as a way to drum up some interest in their book with a pretty likely bet. might be overthinking the reason.
                                          Yeah, I guess. I just would have figured them to set the limit lower than $10k per wager ($80k potential bonus). Normally places offer sweet promos where they let you bet 50 or 100 or something like that. $10k with a potential $80k bonus is a whole other category.

                                          It's not like they could know what's gonna happen or fix it. Obviously the kids are going to try to win the game at the end.

                                          And I just feel like in a year like no other we are gonna see a lot of these. Maybe not, who knows. Will be fun to watch for sure.

                                          Anyone remember 2016? There were 6 buzzer beaters that would have qualified, including the title game.
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                                          • jjgold
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                                            • 07-20-05
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                                            #22
                                            Barstool lost about 872k last month sportsbetting PA
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                                            • d2bets
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              Barstool lost about 872k last month sportsbetting PA
                                              Interesting. Hey, they're giving away money, might as well take some of it.
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                                              • jjgold
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                                                • 07-20-05
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                                                #24
                                                Take it

                                                I still don’t get it what has to happen to win a bet
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                                                • d2bets
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  Take it

                                                  I still don’t get it what has to happen to win a bet
                                                  A "buzzer beater" is defined as a field goal made by one team within the last 2.0 seconds of regulation or OT to win the game outright. The line is O1.5-180. If it hits 2, it's a regular win. If there are 3 buzzer beaters, then you win plus 2x stake multiplier; 4 = 4x stake; 5=6x stake; 6=8x stake.
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                                                  • sjm5122
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                                                    • 09-22-08
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                                                    #26


                                                    Found this for reference
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                                                    • Orbison
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                                                      #27
                                                      anyone done this yet?
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                                                      • d2bets
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by sjm5122
                                                        Yeah, that's what I linked earlier. For the record:

                                                        2019: 1
                                                        2018: 3
                                                        2017: 2
                                                        2016: 6
                                                        2015: 1
                                                        2014: 2
                                                        2013: 2
                                                        2012: 0
                                                        2011: 3
                                                        2010: 4
                                                        2009: 3
                                                        2008: 3
                                                        2007: 1
                                                        2006: 3
                                                        2005: 0
                                                        2004: 1
                                                        2003: 2
                                                        2002: 1
                                                        2001: 2
                                                        2000: 2
                                                        1999: 0
                                                        1998: 5
                                                        1997: 1
                                                        1996: 0
                                                        1995: 3
                                                        1994: 0
                                                        1993: 2
                                                        1992: 3
                                                        1991: 2
                                                        1990: 6

                                                        So that's 30 years worth. 64 times for an average of 2.13
                                                        The distribution (and hypothetical 180/100 wager each year)

                                                        0....5 (-900)
                                                        1....6 (-1080)
                                                        2....8 (+800)
                                                        3....7 (+2100)
                                                        4....1 (+500)
                                                        5....1 (+700)
                                                        6....2 (+1800)

                                                        That's +$3,920 profit on a $180 wager on this each year ($5,400 total). Off the charts +EV.
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                                                        • sjm5122
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                                                          #29
                                                          Ah sorry I missed it in your post
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                                                          • d2bets
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Orbison
                                                            anyone done this yet?
                                                            Yes. Not quite the max, but substantial.
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                                                            • jjgold
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                                                              • 07-20-05
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                                                              #31
                                                              They could possibly get killed on this
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                                                              • rm18
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                                                                • 09-20-05
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                They could possibly get killed on this
                                                                Maybe but the other books paying celebs like Jamie Foxx and Iverson big ad budgets thats why I don't think they will be successful too many expenses and really not many big bettors out there.
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                                                                • d2bets
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Barstool moved the odds from -180 to -220. Still a good bet because the value is in the multiplier. They must have taken a bunch of big wagers.
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                                                                  • PaperTrail07
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                                                                    • 08-29-08
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Hope you smash em on this
                                                                    Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                    Barstool moved the odds from -180 to -220. Still a good bet because the value is in the multiplier. They must have taken a bunch of big wagers.
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                                                                    • sweep
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                                                                      • 10-09-10
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                      Yeah, that's what I linked earlier. For the record:

                                                                      2019: 1
                                                                      2018: 3
                                                                      2017: 2
                                                                      2016: 6
                                                                      2015: 1
                                                                      2014: 2
                                                                      2013: 2
                                                                      2012: 0
                                                                      2011: 3
                                                                      2010: 4
                                                                      2009: 3
                                                                      2008: 3
                                                                      2007: 1
                                                                      2006: 3
                                                                      2005: 0
                                                                      2004: 1
                                                                      2003: 2
                                                                      2002: 1
                                                                      2001: 2
                                                                      2000: 2
                                                                      1999: 0
                                                                      1998: 5
                                                                      1997: 1
                                                                      1996: 0
                                                                      1995: 3
                                                                      1994: 0
                                                                      1993: 2
                                                                      1992: 3
                                                                      1991: 2
                                                                      1990: 6

                                                                      So that's 30 years worth. 64 times for an average of 2.13
                                                                      The distribution (and hypothetical 180/100 wager each year)

                                                                      0....5 (-900)
                                                                      1....6 (-1080)
                                                                      2....8 (+800)
                                                                      3....7 (+2100)
                                                                      4....1 (+500)
                                                                      5....1 (+700)
                                                                      6....2 (+1800)

                                                                      That's +$3,920 profit on a $180 wager on this each year ($5,400 total). Off the charts +EV.

                                                                      I'm only seeing 4 games that qualify from 1990, not 6...

                                                                      2 qualify from 2009, not 3

                                                                      Id have to read the fine print...not sure if and one's count...
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