Thoughts on electronic craps, roulette, blackjack at casino?

[MinnesotaFats]

Since this is likely the future of gaming what are your feelings about it....seems too easy for the house.

[jjgold]

Why is it too easy??

Speed
Of
Play ?

More hands per hr?

[MinnesotaFats]

Why is it too easy??

Speed
Of
Play ?

More hands per hr?

Yes, and let's just say if the house edge in a regular roulette game is 6% which to say that the program in the e game isn't simply a 90% payout platform, thus giving house a greater edge.

Been looking at e games for commercial purchase...thinking about underground casino.

[Otters27]

Yes, and let's just say if the house edge in a regular roulette game is 6% which to say that the program in the e game isn't simply a 90% payout platform, thus giving house a greater edge.

Been looking at e games for commercial purchase...thinking about underground casino.

Legal or illegal?

[Vyasports]

[MinnesotaFats]

Legal or illegal?

Legal. Small boutique hotel, will dedicate a room to casino/ book. No dealers, just e games + book kiosks. Girls giving away free booze to players as they lounge by pool and place bets

[Waterstpub87]

Pass. I haven't been to a casino in a few years, but if I would go, I would play craps. No way in hell am I playing electronic craps. Ruins the whole game. There will still be a core of players who prefer the traditional way, so the casino will have it.

[Otters27]

Legal. Small boutique hotel, will dedicate a room to casino/ book. No dealers, just e games + book kiosks. Girls giving away free booze to players as they lounge by pool and place bets

How much would that all cost

[jjgold]

Underground casino you’ll be in jail within two years forget about it

[Vyasports]

Underground casino you’ll be in jail within two years forget about it

[MinnesotaFats]

How much would that all cost

Budgeting $700k for this

The equipment isn't that pricey, decent casino set up for under $50k.

With no human dealers/ theft issues + higher edge, make it back yr 1 even giving away free drinks

Real estate the biggest cost, budget $550-$700k depending on location and ability to draw players

[hehfest]

Thoughts are you all will become millionaires playing these games!

[SteveKerrsJunk]

I love playing all the electronic games at the casino, makes it easy and pain-free. I'm going to lose at the table games anyways, might as well not have to worry about ahole dealers and guys playing the shoe all wrong at $5 a hand.

[BChrisB]

Pass. I haven't been to a casino in a few years, but if I would go, I would play craps. No way in hell am I playing electronic craps. Ruins the whole game. There will still be a core of players who prefer the traditional way, so the casino will have it.

Why craps? Why any game of chance? Any consistent ROI can and will only come from
a game of skill and it better be one your damn well skilled in. Gambling comes by chance, High risk and risk tolerant investing is where true leverage lies. With the right amount of information whether it being a poker tell or the condition of the field before kickoff is where such info can put the odds in your favor. The true skill is how to decipher and interpret that information. Dice and wheels do not have and don’t need memory to outsmart any gambler. Then again gamblers don’t have very good memories either as they only can seem to remember those rare occurrences where as a statistical anomaly they beat the probable outcome from time to time.

[jjgold]

nobody that gambles has any money

[Sam Odom]

played on an electronic Craps table at Harrahs --- one dealer/stickman

just aint the same but is quicker

payouts are factional correct... can Place $5 on SIX

[pologq]

the games lose a little bit of feel when i do the electronic wheels and we all sit at the kiosks around the casino. i am talking about when a dealer is in a central location and spins the wheel from there. foxwoods has all of their casinos connected for this at various kiosks. are they fun? sure. it does make it easy too with no chips to worry about and no people bumping into me, etc.

as for pure electronic table games i am not crazy about it. i feel it is rigged just like online casinos. i rather pass my time playing slots for fun if i do something electronically. at least then i accept it as a "video game" where i can win money.

[Sam Odom]

Just to be clear... live dealer and live shooters

played on an electronic Craps table at Harrahs --- one dealer/stickman

just aint the same but is quicker

payouts are factional correct... can Place $5 on SIX

[Waterstpub87]

Why craps? Why any game of chance? Any consistent ROI can and will only come from
a game of skill and it better be one your damn well skilled in. Gambling comes by chance, High risk and risk tolerant investing is where true leverage lies. With the right amount of information whether it being a poker tell or the condition of the field before kickoff is where such info can put the odds in your favor. The true skill is how to decipher and interpret that information. Dice and wheels do not have and don’t need memory to outsmart any gambler. Then again gamblers don’t have very good memories either as they only can seem to remember those rare occurrences where as a statistical anomaly they beat the probable outcome from time to time.

Why does anyone do anything. I enjoy the random walk of a craps game. I'm aware that the odds are slightly against me.

Is it your first day here?

[DrunkHorseplayer]

I love playing all the electronic games at the casino, makes it easy and pain-free. I'm going to lose at the table games anyways, might as well not have to worry about ahole dealers and guys playing the shoe all wrong at $5 a hand.

How good or bad other players are at BJ has no long term effect on your results; they're just as likely to help you as they are to hurt you.

[jjgold]

games all there for casinos to make big profits men

All you need to know

[Headsterx]

Just to be clear... live dealer and live shooters

I used to play on the craps machine with the big dice in the middle of the bubble. The min was a dollar and had chairs. After the clubs closed we go there sit and play and get free drinks to keep us drunk until sunrise. When the countdown begins at 10 secs to place your bet, we would yell it out and act like we had lots of money riding on it. Sometimes we had more excitement than the $10 tables at night. Pre-covid times were fun.

[Slurry Pumper]

Not a big fan of any fancy thing boxes being involved with my casino style play. I like the physical simple nature of things. I know that all the electronic stuff has been studied and proven to have the odds they say they do and for a casino to skirt that sacred rule would be a death nail for them. I just like the community of people around in person and actual cards, or actual dice, or an actual ball rolling around, or an actual wheel or some kind of physical mechanism.

[MinnesotaFats]

I used to play on the craps machine with the big dice in the middle of the bubble. The min was a dollar and had chairs. After the clubs closed we go there sit and play and get free drinks to keep us drunk until sunrise. When the countdown begins at 10 secs to place your bet, we would yell it out and act like we had lots of money riding on it. Sometimes we had more excitement than the $10 tables at night. Pre-covid times were fun.

See this is what I'm talking about. I think this is the future...it's just the commradderie if the social settings and the electronic elements make MORE bettors comfortable playing because they can do so in their chair and get free booze

[carolinakid]

those games are very easy to rigged for the house, a waste of time playing those

[MinnesotaFats]

those games are very easy to rigged for the house, a waste of time playing those

But does the millennial or woman or purely wanna be entertained gambler even care?

We come from a numbers crunching grind it out generation...do 20 somrthings care and are they maybe MORE comfortable in a chair w a screen and not touching chips or dice or cards

[pologq]

But does the millennial or woman or purely wanna be entertained gambler even care?

We come from a numbers crunching grind it out generation...do 20 somrthings care and are they maybe MORE comfortable in a chair w a screen and not touching chips or dice or cards

you make good points. the key is how much $$$ they are good for.

online casinos have ruined me for digital bj and roulette. if there are live dealers and an electronic hookup i am all for it as long as i am in the casino at the time.

[BeatTheJerk]

those games are very easy to rigged for the house, a waste of time playing those

Not if you’re sitting at a roundtable & there’s multiple people playing the same wheel at once regarding roulette. The thing is you won’t find single 0 with that set up always 0 & 00. Individual game video roulette seems rigged to me always once you start winning or you just always lose lol but can find single zero for the 2.5% house edge. Limits are low & can’t martingale much unless you’re trying to grind out a 1 dollar profit per spin or when you double up. 90 is the max bet I’ve seen on the individual single 0 video roulette games.

[BChrisB]

Is it your first day here?

I wish it was my first day here because I think around that time I was only down about $25k lifetime.

[pdx107]

In Vegas I have played the E-Blackjack on a few occasions and to my surprise generally done quite well. The E-Craps/Roulette/Hold Em though, hard pass

[Waterstpub87]

I wish it was my first day here because I think around that time I was only down about $25k lifetime.

[SBR Tony]

I have no problem losing on my own, now you want me to play against a machine? no thanks
might as walk over to the machine and hand them my money, and walk away

[carolinakid]

it hard to win against a machine

[jjgold]

So easy to
Play

Minimum wages are much lower

[carolinakid]

that the whole thing it so easy to lose money to a machine... pass here