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  • Seattle Slew
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-02-06
    • 7373

    #351
    Will Tomlin kick here?
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    • big joe 1212
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 06-01-08
      • 19380

      #352
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      • KnuckleHeadz
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        • 12-11-19
        • 8194

        #353
        Ticket#:326237145
        Jan 10 10:06 PM
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        Date Placed Jan 10 09:55 PM
        Sport
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        Description STRAIGHT BET
        [2151] TOTAL o24-110
        (2H CLEVELAND BROWNS vrs 2H PITTSBURGH STEELERS)
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        • johnnyvegas13
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          • 05-21-15
          • 27897

          #354
          Steelers live +525
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          • ThaTopMoron
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            • 04-30-10
            • 27020

            #355
            horrible 2 point execution... after horrible browns prevent defense

            seriously... 76 yards in 4 plays?

            who watching this unfold will back browns vs the chiefs lol
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            • 2Shirts
              SBR MVP
              • 03-11-11
              • 4402

              #356
              Cleveland just don't want to win this
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              • beavis13
                SBR MVP
                • 06-18-14
                • 2823

                #357
                Did Tomlin bet the over on 2-pt attempts?
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                • Seattle Slew
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-02-06
                  • 7373

                  #358
                  Yup, have Pitt +11.5 from first half. But more points coming likely.

                  Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                  horrible 2 point execution... after horrible browns prevent defense

                  seriously... 76 yards in 4 plays?

                  who watching this unfold will back browns vs the chiefs lol
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                  • Mac4Lyfe
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-04-09
                    • 48384

                    #359
                    Originally posted by Orbison
                    there's a difference between critiquing a head coach based on the team's performance vs. the coach's situational decision making. the team playing poorly is one thing and certainly a big deal, but it's another not to know how to play the hands you're dealt throughout the game. you were already down 35-7 at one point. you don't all of a sudden get scared to lose the game (when you're still trailing by 12) when facing 4th & short. that simply does not make sense.
                    Tomlin is an old school coach with a defensive mindset. Very few old school coaches are going to go for it in their own territory. They believe in their defense making things happen as much as their offense.
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                    • Da Manster!
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-13-07
                      • 17720

                      #360
                      Originally posted by vitterd
                      Tomlin has been horrible for many years. Doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing.
                      Youngest head coach to ever win a SB...145-78-1 career regular season record...2nd winningest coach in the NFL since 2007 (when he got hired)..2nd only to the great Bill Belechick....7 division championships, 8-7 playoff record, and last but not least Mike Tomlin just recorded his 14th consecutive non-losing season since becoming a head coach tying him with Marty Schoetenheimer for all-time in NFL history....but yeah he's been horrible for many years......do you guys even read the stupid shit that you post?...a bunch of ass clowns at SBR.
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                      • JIBBBY
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-10-09
                        • 83686

                        #361
                        Originally posted by 2Shirts
                        Cleveland just don't want to win this
                        More like Pitt D doesn't really want to win this now.
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                        • Mac4Lyfe
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-04-09
                          • 48384

                          #362
                          Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                          horrible 2 point execution... after horrible browns prevent defenseseriously... 76 yards in 4 plays? who watching this unfold will back browns vs the chiefs lol
                          Browns defense has been awful all year. They are down a lot of players and are playing guys that should be stacking shelves at Walmart.
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                          • Mac4Lyfe
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-04-09
                            • 48384

                            #363
                            Browns may have to find offensive linemen in the crowd.
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                            • 2Shirts
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-11-11
                              • 4402

                              #364
                              This team is seriously cursed
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                              • Kermit
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 09-27-10
                                • 32555

                                #365
                                You know, I seen a prop at Fanduel for this weekend's playoff games, and it was Will any game go over 80.5 points? Under was -10000
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                                • johnnyvegas13
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                                  • 05-21-15
                                  • 27897

                                  #366
                                  Originally posted by Kermit
                                  You know, I seen a prop at Fanduel for this weekend's playoff games, and it was Will any game go over 80.5 points? Under was -10000
                                  I would take that again next week
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                                  • d2bets
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                                    • 08-10-05
                                    • 39995

                                    #367
                                    Originally posted by Kermit
                                    You know, I seen a prop at Fanduel for this weekend's playoff games, and it was Will any game go over 80.5 points? Under was -10000
                                    What was the over offered at?
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                                    • Mac4Lyfe
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-04-09
                                      • 48384

                                      #368
                                      Milk the clock here Browns.
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                                      • Mac4Lyfe
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-04-09
                                        • 48384

                                        #369
                                        Why is Baker snapping the damn ball with 15 seconds on the clock?
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                                        • big joe 1212
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 06-01-08
                                          • 19380

                                          #370
                                          Originally posted by Kermit
                                          You know, I seen a prop at Fanduel for this weekend's playoff games, and it was Will any game go over 80.5 points? Under was -10000
                                          Hopefully Otters didn’t bite on the under
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                                          • ThaTopMoron
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                                            • 04-30-10
                                            • 27020

                                            #371
                                            Originally posted by Da Manster!
                                            Youngest head coach to ever win a SB...145-78-1 career regular season record...2nd winningest coach in the NFL since 2007 (when he got hired)..2nd only to the great Bill Belechick....7 division championships, 8-7 playoff record, and last but not least Mike Tomlin just recorded his 14th consecutive non-losing season since becoming a head coach tying him with Marty Schoetenheimer for all-time in NFL history....but yeah he's been horrible for many years......do you guys even read the stupid shit that you post?...a bunch of ass clowns at SBR.
                                            won a SB with another guy's players

                                            8-8 playoff record

                                            2nd only to bill belichick???

                                            you drunk?
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                                            • Da Manster!
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-13-07
                                              • 17720

                                              #372
                                              Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                              Milk the clock here Browns.
                                              it's all academic now, Mac.
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                                              • beavis13
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 06-18-14
                                                • 2823

                                                #373
                                                Well at least Pitt made it interesting for a little bit.
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                                                • Kermit
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                                                  • 09-27-10
                                                  • 32555

                                                  #374
                                                  Originally posted by d2bets
                                                  What was the over offered at?
                                                  I'm trying to remember. It was actually Yes or No instead of over or under. I'm thinking that it was +3000, but I could be wrong. I know that it was 80.5 and -10000 under.

                                                  I think this game over 74.5 was +2000
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                                                  • ThaTopMoron
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                                                    • 04-30-10
                                                    • 27020

                                                    #375
                                                    tomlin's 2 afccg wins were against a rookie joe flacco and against mark sanchez
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                                                    • hotcross
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-04-17
                                                      • 7934

                                                      #376
                                                      Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                                      Book says go for 1 when down 13????

                                                      The way I see it, regardless of the score, almost always keep kicking for Extra Points until sometime in the 4th Quarter (unless maybe you have a shaky kicker - that would be a reason not to)

                                                      Reasoning - those 1 points add up / make a difference - in the same way a few seconds can make a difference at the end of a game

                                                      Teams chase 2-pt conversions too early....

                                                      Opponent kicks a FG, or a couple of them, or doesn't score, and the calculations keep changing from what points you thought you needed earlier
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                                                      • Orbison
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-07-20
                                                        • 4691

                                                        #377
                                                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                        Tomlin is an old school coach with a defensive mindset. Very few old school coaches are going to go for it in their own territory. They believe in their defense making things happen as much as their offense.
                                                        the problem is that his mindset was all wrong. he was playing not to lose in a game that was essentially already lost. he needed to be playing every hand (i.e. every offensive possession) very aggressively to try and earn his way back. that means playing all 4 downs if necessary on every drive to gain a 1st down almost regardless of field position.. (and most certainly on 4th & short from around the 45 when you're still down 12!)

                                                        whenever you're in a really bad spot in any kind of game you're playing, the best strategy at that point is to do everything you can to deflect all the pressure that's on you towards your opponent. failing to understand this concept should result in termination.
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                                                        • vitterd
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 09-14-17
                                                          • 58460

                                                          #378
                                                          Originally posted by Da Manster!
                                                          Youngest head coach to ever win a SB...145-78-1 career regular season record...2nd winningest coach in the NFL since 2007 (when he got hired)..2nd only to the great Bill Belechick....7 division championships, 8-7 playoff record, and last but not least Mike Tomlin just recorded his 14th consecutive non-losing season since becoming a head coach tying him with Marty Schoetenheimer for all-time in NFL history....but yeah he's been horrible for many years......do you guys even read the stupid shit that you post?...a bunch of ass clowns at SBR.
                                                          He’s had great coordinations and Ben has bailed him out. You are clueless. He’s one of the worst game day coaches in football and he proved that again tonight.
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                                                          • big joe 1212
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 06-01-08
                                                            • 19380

                                                            #379
                                                            Originally posted by hotcross
                                                            The way I see it, regardless of the score, almost always keep kicking for Extra Points until sometime in the 4th Quarter (unless maybe you have a shaky kicker - that would be a reason not to)

                                                            Reasoning - those 1 points add up / make a difference - in the same way a few seconds can make a difference at the end of a game

                                                            Teams chase 2-pt conversions too early....

                                                            Opponent kicks a FG, or a couple of them, or doesn't score, and the calculations keep changing from what points you thought you needed earlier
                                                            So why did he go for 2 on the TD before that one????
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                                                            • vitterd
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 09-14-17
                                                              • 58460

                                                              #380
                                                              Originally posted by hotcross
                                                              The way I see it, regardless of the score, almost always keep kicking for Extra Points until sometime in the 4th Quarter (unless maybe you have a shaky kicker - that would be a reason not to)

                                                              Reasoning - those 1 points add up / make a difference - in the same way a few seconds can make a difference at the end of a game

                                                              Teams chase 2-pt conversions too early....

                                                              Opponent kicks a FG, or a couple of them, or doesn't score, and the calculations keep changing from what points you thought you needed earlier
                                                              Total nonsense this post.
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                                                              • ThaTopMoron
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                                                                • 04-30-10
                                                                • 27020

                                                                #381
                                                                Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                Why is Baker snapping the damn ball with 15 seconds on the clock?
                                                                lol i missed that.... maybe trying to catch steelers D off guard??? LOL
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                                                                • Da Manster!
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-13-07
                                                                  • 17720

                                                                  #382
                                                                  Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                                                                  won a SB with another guy's players

                                                                  8-8 playoff record

                                                                  2nd only to bill belichick???

                                                                  you drunk?
                                                                  all facts...and yes 2nd winningest coach to Bill Belechick...(regular season wins)....but now 8 - 8 which still a lot more playoff appearances than 80% of these goddamn retreads that keep getting hired.
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                                                                  • ThaWoj
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 03-09-10
                                                                    • 6764

                                                                    #383
                                                                    Yep obv hindsight but that 4th and 1 punt ended their chances.

                                                                    Not enough time now.
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                                                                    • hotcross
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 08-04-17
                                                                      • 7934

                                                                      #384
                                                                      Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                                                      So why did he go for 2 on the TD before that one????
                                                                      Well go back 5-6 pages and I said he shouldn't have done that either

                                                                      it's not just Tomlin, I said many teams do this now, overthinking the situation

                                                                      Take the 1-point
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                                                                      • 2Shirts
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 03-11-11
                                                                        • 4402

                                                                        #385
                                                                        Cleveland defense needs to do something besides letting Pittsburgh move up and down the field
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