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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Hard To Find Edges Lately..Have Not Liked Board At All..Anyone With Angles??
    strange feeling sports right now

    subdued
  • johnnyvegas13
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 05-21-15
    • 27897

    #2
    Agree co hoops not ripe yet

    best bet right now is bucs super bowl
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    • RudyRuetigger
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-24-10
      • 65084

      #3
      then try tiddly winks you fukkin clown
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      • hubie69
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-16-10
        • 7329

        #4
        ncaab is so ripe it's almost juicy.
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        • RudyRuetigger
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-24-10
          • 65084

          #5
          Originally posted by hubie69
          ncaab is so ripe it's almost juicy.
          hey hubie go check into your zoom contest thread post
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          • hubie69
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-16-10
            • 7329

            #6
            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
            hey hubie go check into your zoom contest thread post
            ok, on my way
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            • RudyRuetigger
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-24-10
              • 65084

              #7
              Originally posted by hubie69
              ok, on my way



              thanks
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              • hubie69
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-16-10
                • 7329

                #8
                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger


                thanks
                Thread burried. Still looking
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                • RudyRuetigger
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-24-10
                  • 65084

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hubie69
                  Thread burried. Still looking
                  it has a JOIN NOW thing attached


                  created by LT Profits
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                  • KVB
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 05-29-14
                    • 74817

                    #10
                    Originally posted by KVB
                    The KVB NCAAB Technical Value Fund will track NCAAB plays derived from a stacking percentages forecast that is enhanced by a few technical, statistical tweaks. The forecast with these adjustments, when compared to the market, give us another decent spread opportunity throughout the seasons.

                    This Fund will also be comprised of underdogs, exploiting some of the public thirst for favorites, but gets its plays mainly from focusing more on the weightings of a few specific areas. These areas include defensive stats like field goal %, forced turnovers per game, opponents free throws, etc, and combine them with things like pace to find those teams that are just better than the number indicates and control the game more than the betting market realizes...
                    843 8-Jan S ALABAMA +5 (-110)
                    893 DAYTON +5.5 (-110)
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                    • TheMetsSuck
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-14-12
                      • 6146

                      #11
                      NBA with no fans and guys resting so much Is the pits. Would rather bet on ping pong. Basketball was definitely the sport that was impacted the most by playing without fans and it shows. College not as much. Just bet Gonzaga and Iowa every game and you’ll come out on top
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                      • Smoke
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-09-09
                        • 48111

                        #12
                        Lakers UNDERS have been hitting like crazy
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                        • Smoke
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-09-09
                          • 48111

                          #13
                          Originally posted by KVB
                          843 8-Jan S ALABAMA +5 (-110)
                          893 DAYTON +5.5 (-110)
                          oh wow kvb
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                          • RudyRuetigger
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 65084

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Smoke
                            oh wow kvb
                            be careful
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                            • pologq
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-07-12
                              • 19899

                              #15
                              Originally posted by KVB
                              843 8-Jan S ALABAMA +5 (-110)
                              893 DAYTON +5.5 (-110)
                              yum yum yum
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #16
                                Originally posted by KVB
                                843 8-Jan S ALABAMA +5 (-110)
                                893 DAYTON +5.5 (-110)
                                ...


                                Make no mistake, been writing all season about the the positive units on the tech value Fund on both spread and ml but the concern with the closing line performance. We've seen improvement in the closing line performance though recently and todays games aren't exactly the openers I usually post, as explained in the original post.

                                We're still watching this Fund closely Gold, but it's conditions have improved and many of the tests that stood fine now look stronger. For one thing, there are still plays being generated agains the market, even if the originators are off a bit on the open. When those dissipate, there wil be additional cause for concern.

                                The Fund season to date...

                                The closing line comparison is a crude one, as always, and I realize going forward, if we do have a teaching point here, I might go ahead and convert to percetages agains the close. I don't usually do it because I use special values for different points, as everyone should, something that isn't nearly as important in basketball as it would be in football...

                                Record Date NCAAB Technical Value Fund 1 Unit Closing Beat BTC ATS 1 unit
                                ATS per bet Line Closer? Average ml close
                                774 0-1 3-Dec CAL +7.5 (-108) -1 6.5 Y 1 -1
                                813 0-2 4-Dec N TEXAS +3 (-105) -1 4 N -1 -1
                                863 1-2 10-Dec SDSU +4.5 (-110) 0.91 2 Y 2.5 1.11
                                730 2-2 12-Dec WASHINGTON +7 (-110) 0.91 8.5 N -1.5 -1
                                769 3-2 13-Dec PENN ST +7.5 (-110) 0.91 7.5 PUSH 0 -1
                                608 3-3 15-Dec MIA (OH) +3 (-110) -1 4 N -1 -1
                                633 4-3 FURMAN +6.5 (-110) 0.91 6 Y 0.5 -1
                                701 5-3 16-Dec MONTANA +8 (-110) 0.91 6.5 Y 1.5 2.46
                                821 5-4 18-Dec ST PETERS +1 (-110) -1 -1 Y 2 -1
                                611 5-5 19-Dec BALL ST +4 (-110) -1 3 Y 1 -1
                                638 6-5 DAYTON +2.5 (-110) 0.91 2.5 PUSH 0 1.32
                                677 7-5 MIA (OH) +10.5 (-105) 0.95 12 N -1.5 -1
                                763 7-6 21-Dec WOFFORD +6 (-115) -1 6.5 N -0.5 -1
                                779 8-6 S ILLINOIS +9 (-110) 0.91 9.5 N -0.5 4.02
                                783 9-6 TULSA +8.5 (-115) 0.87 9.5 N -1 3.53
                                626 10-6 22-Dec UCF +2 (-110) 0.91 2.5 N -0.5 1.25
                                647 11-6 MONTANA +14 (-110) 0.91 14.5 N -0.5 -1
                                666 11-7 UL MONROE +10 (-110) -1 10.5 N -0.5 -1
                                737 11-8 23-Dec NEW MEXICO +12.5 (-108) -1 11 Y 1.5 -1
                                768 11-9 26-Dec UCF +8 (-110) -1 7.5 Y 0.5 -1
                                609 11-10 29-Dec TEXAS A&M +7.5 (-108) -1 8 N -0.5 -1
                                615 12-10 WOFFORD +2.5 (-108) 0.93 2.5 PUSH 0 1.2
                                634 13-10 TULSA +7.5 (-105) 0.95 9.5 N -2 3.66
                                711 13-11 30-Dec SACRAMENTO ST +13 (-110) -1 15 N -2 -1
                                657 14-11 2-Jan TULSA +4.5 (-110) 0.91 5.5 N -1 2.01
                                653 15-11 6-Jan TULSA +1 (-110) 0.91 -1 Y 2 0.85
                                655 16-11 PITT +9 (-110) 0.91 11 N -2 5
                                697 16-12 TEX A&M +4 (-110) -1 3 Y 1 -1
                                843 8-Jan S ALABAMA +5 (-110)
                                893 DAYTON +5.5 (-110)
                                16-12 Total 2.62 9-15-3 -0.09 9.41


                                Let's hope the variance on the closer remains just that. NO real reason to think otherwise, but I'm always hard the funds. I'm more concerned about making sure I am winning going forward than winnign today.

                                Priorities.

                                Tomorrow's a big slate, Circa leading the world with the best early lines out there.

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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #17
                                  I can't remember a posted Fund that has done that poorly over a 30 or so unit span against the closing line, in any sport. It just doesn't happen with me that often. Even when the the NCAAF Totals Fund took a shit a year ago it was the lack of plays from years past that was most prominent. The market had caught up.

                                  It's far more likely that I go on wild losing and win streaks with units than with the performance against the close.

                                  Here are last year's Tech Value Fund numbers, with a link to the summary.

                                  38-20 Total: 15.81 26-18-14 0.164
                                  Againg nowhere near the .5 level we look to beat the close by here, keeping the crude method of comparison relevant.

                                  I remain on a wait and a see outlook with this Fund and will continue to buy in at the normal rate, no increase or decrease.

                                  If we dip into last year's profit and have poor testing metrics then I'll change the outlook and decrease the positions, if not elminate them.

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                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-24-10
                                    • 65084

                                    #18
                                    i hope smoke is careful
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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #19
                                      Here's one for tomorrow..Texas A&M +9. Again taken at Circa at the open, but I waited for the more widely avalable line to come out. It's not the Circa market I'm worried about, I've shown we can beat that.

                                      Originally posted by KVB
                                      The KVB NCAAB Technical Value Fund has picked up...

                                      638 9-Jan TEX A&M +9 (-110)
                                      This for tomorrow.

                                      We have this at Circa at +10 but I wanted to post when it was more widely available again. This will affect my closing line performance a little and we will continue to keep that in mind. In reality though, the Circa market isn't what we're really up against, I showed we can crush Circa in both football and we can see it again in Hoops..
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                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74817

                                        #20
                                        Added Clemson to the Fund as well, another instance of Circa giving a generous opener of 2.

                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                        The KVB NCAAB Technical Value Fund has added...

                                        747 9-Jan CLEMSON +1.5 (-110)
                                        This is for tomorrow. Once again we have Circa +2 here and the widely available line is a half point shy already. The originators haven't exaclty caught up to the Fund, but the early market is pushing that way...
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          Looking now

                                          A better selection today

                                          Thanks men
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                                          • Sam Odom
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-30-05
                                            • 58063

                                            #22
                                            on a 6-1 run... all sports
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                                            • flyingillini
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 12-06-06
                                              • 41219

                                              #23
                                              Everyday is the same and has been for 27+ years. I just pick a side.
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                                              המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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