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  • miaplus3
    SBR High Roller
    • 03-16-10
    • 230

    #1
    odds of surviving a 30x rollover assuming a 100% cash bonus?
    I would think if you were throwing darts at -110 lines & couldn't play one book off another the over/under would be around 30%?
  • Roger T. Bannon
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-28-18
    • 5139

    #2
    Originally posted by miaplus3
    I would think if you were throwing darts at -110 lines & couldn't play one book off another the over/under would be around 30%?
    You lose 100% of deposit without being a breakeven bettor.
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    • carolinakid
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-12-11
      • 19106

      #3
      i tell people to never take these type of tools the books use to get your money.
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      • Roger T. Bannon
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 06-28-18
        • 5139

        #4
        Actually with a cash bonus, you would still have money left. You would lose but it would not be all that bad. This assumes you used bankroll management which never happens.
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        • hubie69
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-16-10
          • 7329

          #5
          Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
          This assumes you used bankroll management which never happens.
          So much this
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          • Hman
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-04-17
            • 21429

            #6
            30x is ok if in casino, not sportsbook
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              8x or lower or RUN
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              • Roger T. Bannon
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 06-28-18
                • 5139

                #8
                It's actually a good deal. I would take it but I can't recall ever seeing a 100% cash offer from a book like that. Pretty hard to come by.
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                • Roger T. Bannon
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-28-18
                  • 5139

                  #9
                  The biggest problem with that kind of deal is that it is a bookie buster. So you will not get it but from a broke book or one soon to be broke.
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                  • CanuckG
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-23-10
                    • 21978

                    #10
                    I'm doing a 20x rollover at BetDSI. 123% Bonus. Firing -110's. 60% of the way there - 1.23k to 10.2k so far.
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                    • Roger T. Bannon
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-28-18
                      • 5139

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CanuckG
                      I'm doing a 20x rollover at BetDSI. 123% Bonus. Firing -110's. 60% of the way there - 1.23k to 10.2k so far.
                      How much are you betting per game?
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                      • CanuckG
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-23-10
                        • 21978

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                        How much are you betting per game?
                        200-300. Took a few shots though. 1.5k on Eagles +6.5
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                        • miaplus3
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 03-16-10
                          • 230

                          #13
                          100 + 100 = 200 total to start

                          200 x 30 = 6000 needed to satisfy rollover.

                          assuming you boogie with 50%, that means you would have about 3000 losing bets & with juice that means you would be minus 300.

                          200 - 300 = -100, If I'm doing that right.
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                          • Roger T. Bannon
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-28-18
                            • 5139

                            #14
                            Originally posted by CanuckG
                            200-300. Took a few shots though. 1.5k on Eagles +6.5
                            That'll do it.
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              go all in on other side also and lose some juice and hope you bust out of bonus book

                              If bonus book wins just start betting normal
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                              • Roger T. Bannon
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 06-28-18
                                • 5139

                                #16
                                Originally posted by miaplus3
                                100 + 100 = 200 total to start

                                200 x 30 = 6000 needed to satisfy rollover.

                                assuming you boogie with 50%, that means you would have about 3000 losing bets & with juice that means you would be minus 300.

                                200 - 300 = -100, If I'm doing that right.
                                You would lose about $36 total on a $100 deposit which is pretty good. Normally you would lose $60.
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                                • Roger T. Bannon
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-28-18
                                  • 5139

                                  #17
                                  No, I screwed this up completely. You gotta roll 2x what I was thinking. So it is a little worse than average. I wouldn't take it. It is not terrible though.
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                                  • JIBBBY
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-10-09
                                    • 83686

                                    #18
                                    Grind and wait. It is possible to make the 30x roll over but it takes time and just don't request a payout for a long while. Gotta watch for the expire dates on the bonus play also which is a trick for the books.

                                    I hate taking freebies from all books as it can create future trouble when trying to cash out. I like to keep it simple and smooth with the books. You win you win, you lose you lose with only the cash you deposited and you will get no hang ups. You deposit money in a bookie and take no bonuses it will always be a smoother ride when cashing out with all the books when it's time.

                                    That I learned over the years.
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                                    • Roger T. Bannon
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-28-18
                                      • 5139

                                      #19
                                      So I was right the first time, you do lose it all. It's pretty bad.
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                                      • Headsterx
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-03-16
                                        • 23097

                                        #20
                                        2 weeks ago, I would have said hell yeah!

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                                        • Roger T. Bannon
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-28-18
                                          • 5139

                                          #21
                                          Even though it is a bad bonus for the average bettor, it is still a very dangerous bonus for the book which is why you will never see them offering 100% cash bonuses for very much money because those can go upside down massively when football season starts or you get people that know what they are doing and take you for a ride.
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                                          • miaplus3
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 03-16-10
                                            • 230

                                            #22
                                            Amen Brother!
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                                            • garyking
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 01-18-07
                                              • 684

                                              #23
                                              Assuming you deposit $100 and get a $100 cash bonus you would have $200 and a rollover of $6000. Assuming you are an average handicapper you will win one of two bets. Therefore for each $200 you wager you will lose $10. ($110 on bet A wins +100 $110 bet B loses -$110). After $4000 in bets you are now down $200, the deposit+bonus (and broke). The books know this and thats why they give the bonuses. However, a bonus like this can easily be rolled over by betting both sides of the game on arb lines using two books when you have bonuses at both. There are many lines each day where the odds are the equivalent of +100 -100 at different books.
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                Grind and wait. It is possible to make the 30x roll over but it takes time and just don't request a payout for a long while. Gotta watch for the expire dates on the bonus play also which is a trick for the books.

                                                I hate taking freebies from all books as it can create future trouble when trying to cash out. I like to keep it simple and smooth with the books. You win you win, you lose you lose with only the cash you deposited and you will get no hang ups. You deposit money in a bookie and take no bonuses it will always be a smoother ride when cashing out with all the books when it's time.

                                                That I learned over the years.
                                                Jibby it is too lucrative now, look around plenty of shops 50-100 percent 10x rolls
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                                                • ace7550
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-08-15
                                                  • 3729

                                                  #25
                                                  Another strategy is to go all in a couple times and see if you can double up twice. Then you are either broke quick or you have a nice bank roll to work with to meet the RO.
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                                                  • ace7550
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-08-15
                                                    • 3729

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by garyking
                                                    Assuming you deposit $100 and get a $100 cash bonus you would have $200 and a rollover of $6000. Assuming you are an average handicapper you will win one of two bets. Therefore for each $200 you wager you will lose $10. ($110 on bet A wins +100 $110 bet B loses -$110). After $4000 in bets you are now down $200, the deposit+bonus (and broke). The books know this and thats why they give the bonuses. However, a bonus like this can easily be rolled over by betting both sides of the game on arb lines using two books when you have bonuses at both. There are many lines each day where the odds are the equivalent of +100 -100 at different books.
                                                    Gary, check your inbox.
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                                                    • HAPPY BOY
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 7109

                                                      #27
                                                      i've had few to any problems satisfying roll overs. gl
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                                                      • Otters27
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 07-14-07
                                                        • 30760

                                                        #28
                                                        I'll never take a bonus again
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