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  • pavyracer
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-12-07
    • 82839

    #1
    Abilene Christian - East Tennessee St
    Abilene Christian is returning most of the team from last year and the best players and scorers from last year are returning.

    East Tennessee St has only one player from last year (not a starter) returning which is odd as the whole team from last year that won the conference is gone. The coach is also new but he was an assistant for the school previously. They have transfers from Maryland (Serrell Smith), Kansas St (David Sloan), a center from Northern Ky (Silas Adheke) and guard from Southeast Missouri (Ledarrius Brewer).

    Talentwise I think East Tennessee St has players that played in better conferences than Abilene Christian but obviously they won't have that much chemistry together since this is a brand new team.

    Abilene Christian is a favorite by -1.5 but I think East Tennessee St is the better talented team.

    If anyone knows anything about the ETSU transfers chime in.
  • seaborneq
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-08-06
    • 22556

    #2
    Originally posted by pavyracer
    Abilene Christian is returning most of the team from last year and the best players and scorers from last year are returning.

    East Tennessee St has only one player from last year (not a starter) returning which is odd as the whole team from last year that won the conference is gone. The coach is also new but he was an assistant for the school previously. They have transfers from Maryland (Serrell Smith), Kansas St (David Sloan), a center from Northern Ky (Silas Adheke) and guard from Southeast Missouri (Ledarrius Brewer).

    Talentwise I think East Tennessee St has players that played in better confrences than Abilene Christian but obviously they won't have that much chemistry together since this is a brand new team.

    Abilene Christian is a favorite by -1.5 but I think East Tennessee St is the better talented team.

    If anyone knows anything about the ETSU transfers chime in.
    None of that gobbly gook means anything in a write up. Nobody knows anything. Pull the trigger and see where it goes.
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82839

      #3
      Originally posted by seaborneq
      None of that gobbly gook means anything in a write up. Nobody knows anything. Pull the trigger and see where it goes.
      Why would I pull the trigger if I don't have an advantage? You cap 10 games and you only bet the couple games you see an edge.
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      • seaborneq
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-08-06
        • 22556

        #4
        Originally posted by pavyracer
        Why would I pull the trigger if I don't have an advantage? You cap 10 games and you only bet the couple games you see an edge.
        Who do you think has an edge on either of those teams or the line at SBRForum tonight??
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        • Smoke
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-09-09
          • 48111

          #5
          This is what the abilene christian coach was quoted as saying..

          “We know we’re playing one of the best mid-major programs in the country over the past few years and they have a lot of new players, but they’re very talented,” he said. “To be transparent and honest, we haven’t done much scouting. We’re really concerned about ourselves at this point.”

          East Tennessee St +2 for me
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          • carolinakid
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-12-11
            • 19106

            #6
            it up to -4 now 1st half-2 and 64.5 u 16
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            • carolinakid
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-12-11
              • 19106

              #7
              do not play this game until we are in the 15 min window to tip off
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              • pavyracer
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-12-07
                • 82839

                #8
                If is +4 now do you think it's going to keep climbing?

                +4 is a good number.
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                • thezbar
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-29-06
                  • 6422

                  #9
                  One angle I would look at is sort of a system. With so many games at the start of the season the bookies are going to over and under estimate each teams ability. I study the against the spread records after a couple games and bet accordingly.
                  One year N.C. Wilmington went 5/0 ats in their first five games. I cashed a few winners on the run. Just an example.

                  I lean towards ET st plus the points.
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                  • Orbison
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-07-20
                    • 4691

                    #10
                    ACU relies heavily on their defense and causing turnovers, work mostly in the paint on offense, poor 3-pt shooting team

                    almost impossible to say for sure what to expect from ETSU with all the new faces. new coach will run same system on offense and he's got a very thick playbook so a learning curve there. might struggle to score consistently on ACU defense
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                    • pologq
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-07-12
                      • 19899

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Orbison
                      ACU relies heavily on their defense and causing turnovers, work mostly in the paint on offense, poor 3-pt shooting team

                      almost impossible to say for sure what to expect from ETSU with all the new faces. new coach will run same system on offense and he's got a very thick playbook so a learning curve there. might struggle to score consistently on ACU defense
                      you have good info. thanks for sharing.
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                      • thetrinity
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-25-11
                        • 22430

                        #12
                        Kind of feels like line moves will be erratic early on
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                        • Chi_archie
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-22-08
                          • 63172

                          #13
                          Ledarrius and Ty Brewer can outscore Abilene all by themselves


                          they've been brothers all their lives. They have pretty good chemistry
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                          • Toledo Ed
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 09-04-10
                            • 728

                            #14
                            Line move is crazy. Was -6 just a bit ago
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                            • ChuckyTheGoat
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 04-04-11
                              • 37472

                              #15
                              Agree w/ Seabourne. Oddsmakers struggle mightily w/ early-season Coll Bask lines. They are just trying their best.

                              If u know it better than them, let it fly. Try to beat them.
                              Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                              • bballs84
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 11-11-09
                                • 5461

                                #16
                                Think this opens East Tenn -3... Line has moved 8.5 points.. Seems like East Tenn or nothing
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                                • rm18
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-20-05
                                  • 22291

                                  #17
                                  Almost seems like you can middle this ML seems so low for a 5.5 pt spread.
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                                  • veriableodds
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-22-17
                                    • 5093

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                    Abilene Christian is returning most of the team from last year and the best players and scorers from last year are returning.

                                    East Tennessee St has only one player from last year (not a starter) returning which is odd as the whole team from last year that won the conference is gone. The coach is also new but he was an assistant for the school previously. They have transfers from Maryland (Serrell Smith), Kansas St (David Sloan), a center from Northern Ky (Silas Adheke) and guard from Southeast Missouri (Ledarrius Brewer).

                                    Talentwise I think East Tennessee St has players that played in better conferences than Abilene Christian but obviously they won't have that much chemistry together since this is a brand new team.

                                    Abilene Christian is a favorite by -1.5 but I think East Tennessee St is the better talented team.

                                    If anyone knows anything about the ETSU transfers chime in.

                                    the teams are only 5 ranks apart, for the fav to be a wager on a 5-6.point spread you need 123 rank difference. Looking at the line you would take the dog obviously. E TNN ST +5.5.. How do you guys pick these games?? out of a hat??
                                    E Tenn St vs. Abl Christian: Overview

                                    Wednesday Nov 25, 2020 11:00 am - Estero, FL (Neutral Site)
                                    Odds: Abilene Christian by 5.5, Total Points: 137

                                    Matchup Menu: ETSU @ ACU



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                                    E Tenn St Subscribe to view 66.5
                                    Abl Christian Subscribe to view 70.5
                                    Offensive Stat Comparison (Last Season)

                                    Points/Game 74.2 72.8
                                    Avg Score Margin +9.5 +4.0
                                    Assists/Game 13.3 13.6
                                    Total Rebounds/Gm 34.4 31.7
                                    Effective FG % 53.5% 49.6%
                                    Off Rebound % 31.2% 26.6%
                                    FTA/FGA 0.369 0.411
                                    Turnover % 15.7% 18.0%
                                    Defensive Stat Comparison (Last Season)

                                    Opp Points/Game 64.7 68.8
                                    Opp Effective FG % 49.8% 50.4%
                                    Off Rebounds/Gm 9.6 8.4
                                    Def Rebounds/Gm 22.8 20.2
                                    Blocks/Game 3.4 2.7
                                    Steals/Game 7.5 9.0
                                    Personal Fouls/Gm 18.0 22.0
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                                    • veriableodds
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-22-17
                                      • 5093

                                      #19
                                      11/25/2020
                                      09:00 AM
                                      ETSU Buccaneers (0-0)
                                      Abilene Christian Wildcats (0-0)
                                      54.9%
                                      45.1%
                                      +300
                                      -360
                                      68.5
                                      66.5
                                      135.0 o136½-110
                                      u137-110
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                                      • Shutup
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-15-17
                                        • 2435

                                        #20
                                        I will take the points all day
                                        if it loses so be it
                                        We don't know shit about these teams now anyway
                                        Great value
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                                        • pavyracer
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 04-12-07
                                          • 82839

                                          #21
                                          Just locked in ETSU at +7.5 -110.

                                          I will go with my instinct here. Good luck on your plays guys and post other picks you have. Teamwork is what is needed to beat the books.
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                                          • nocturnal012
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-25-11
                                            • 893

                                            #22
                                            My bookie has -7.5 wtf
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                                            • Shutup
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-15-17
                                              • 2435

                                              #23
                                              Here is what appears to be true. One of these must be
                                              1. Someone somewhere knows a lot
                                              2. Largely bet on because ETst lost 4 starters
                                              3. It appears that the action is not(from what I have seen) lopsided so it makes me wonder if the books are okay with such line movement. In that case it is a bad sign for the dog. In some manner they move the line themselves
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                                              • pinnacle420
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 10-01-12
                                                • 6254

                                                #24
                                                The line has been moving up all morning... it’s AB -7.5 -116 they have been hammered all day... like shut up said I believe someone knows something the public doesn’t
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                                                • pablo222
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-03-19
                                                  • 8858

                                                  #25
                                                  I took the 7.5.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Paver there’s no edge you wouldn’t be digging ditches if they’re were edges bookmakers are always right with the lines
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                                                    • Chi_archie
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-22-08
                                                      • 63172

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      Paver there’s no edge you wouldn’t be digging ditches if they’re were edges bookmakers are always right with the lines

                                                      so are they right now? or were the right with their opener?
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                                                      • trytrytry
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-13-06
                                                        • 23650

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                        so are they right now? or were the right with their opener?
                                                        that tiz the question. sort of depends what caused the line move which we cant seem to sort out right now. no players missing that anyone knows. one to watch for sure. GL all interesting thread
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                                                        • Shutup
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-15-17
                                                          • 2435

                                                          #29
                                                          Games not over but the line move is looking justified
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                                                          • pavyracer
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-12-07
                                                            • 82839

                                                            #30
                                                            I don't know if the line was set up correctly but if it wasn't then the books created a huge middle opportunity.
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                                                            • veriableodds
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 08-22-17
                                                              • 5093

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                              I don't know if the line was set up correctly but if it wasn't then the books created a huge middle opportunity.
                                                              would wait a few days before plunging in on the sides(more data), myself looking for low totals at first. One side that does pop out today is oklahoma state (-6.5) if you look at all other games on card with the rank variance you would have to lay -11 thru -20. Albeit -6 mabye yes but over -6 hell no. Starting small in units work up to more mabye.
                                                              Its all a crapshoot since this bs COVID scam hit
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                                                              • illyTheKid
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 10-04-18
                                                                • 156

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by veriableodds
                                                                would wait a few days before plunging in on the sides(more data), myself looking for low totals at first. One side that does pop out today is oklahoma state (-6.5) if you look at all other games on card with the rank variance you would have to lay -11 thru -20. Albeit -6 mabye yes but over -6 hell no. Starting small in units work up to more mabye.
                                                                Its all a crapshoot since this bs COVID scam hit
                                                                LMAO. Trumptards always gotta sneak in one of those “anti science, make me feel smart” comments. Guarantee you’ve had more visits to a hospital than a library.
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  always the opposite
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                                                                  • pinnacle420
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 10-01-12
                                                                    • 6254

                                                                    #34
                                                                    AB is playing a game of just the tip... but they aren’t playing fair they are going balls deep geez
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                                                                    • nomar122977
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 03-25-11
                                                                      • 9496

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I hammered abilene and Xavier
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