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  • BAUS
    SBR MVP
    • 08-10-05
    • 2191

    #141
    Originally posted by ace7550
    That should be $13,200. WTF?
    Thanks a lot. Now we will never know what funny answer math guru Doug would have “calculated”.

    BAUS
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    • ace7550
      SBR MVP
      • 05-08-15
      • 3729

      #142
      Originally posted by BAUS
      Thanks a lot. Now we will never know what funny answer math guru Doug would have “calculated”.

      BAUS
      Oops sorry
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      • Fishhead
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-11-05
        • 40179

        #143
        Originally posted by BAUS
        Thanks a lot. Now we will never know what funny answer math guru Doug would have “calculated”.

        BAUS
        Can't wait
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        • BAUS
          SBR MVP
          • 08-10-05
          • 2191

          #144
          I’m showing this Tigers bet from the summer to illustrate that their betslip is messed up.

          Intentional or not, sure, that’s debatable.

          There is no debate about it being messed up.

          BAUS
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          • BuckyOne
            SBR MVP
            • 01-02-15
            • 2728

            #145
            The it's as you click theory makes sense. Why I believe it is because it happened to me once on a small bet during live betting. Thought I was dawdling too long to hit the submit so I was only pissed at myself.

            You would think they could hold the line for 9 seconds? something / when the bet window is created.

            Their software has had trouble just staying up / customer service is non existent / not exactly bubbling over with trust in this book! Get even without getting screwed again if that is possible.
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            • Doug tushyterror
              SBR MVP
              • 07-03-12
              • 4172

              #146
              Originally posted by BAUS
              Here’s a math test for Doug...what is wrong with this picture?






              BAUS
              That should clearly be 13,200 but if you're initial explanation was as obvious as your bet slip I would've gotten it. You mean to tell me if you email that slip to BM they wouldn't rectify it? Pretty sure they would. That $150 they're stiffing you on ain't gonna exactly make or break them. Great bet by the way!
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              • TheMoneyShot
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 02-14-07
                • 28672

                #147
                Interesting thread. I was with Bookmaker 2 years ago. Last 5 wagers I made... 4 of them the juice would reset and wager wasn't accepted.

                This was back with their old layout... in which you'd hit refresh lines.... then quickly make your wager and hit accept. There's no possible way within 3-4 seconds after a refresh... the line would change and your wager wouldn't be accepted. It was one of the reasons why I left them.

                Good to know they are still doing this sh#$.
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                • KVB
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #148
                  Originally posted by BuckyOne
                  The it's as you click theory makes sense. Why I believe it is because it happened to me once on a small bet during live betting. Thought I was dawdling too long to hit the submit so I was only pissed at myself.

                  You would think they could hold the line for 9 seconds? something / when the bet window is created.

                  Their software has had trouble just staying up / customer service is non existent / not exactly bubbling over with trust in this book! Get even without getting screwed again if that is possible.
                  It's not a theory. It's what's happening.

                  The fix is to interrupt the exchange the moment a line changes. It should be impossible to submit in that situation.
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                  • Roger T. Bannon
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 06-28-18
                    • 5139

                    #149
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    Roger if your not happy at a book play somewhere else
                    Bookmaker A+++

                    These guys have to play there zero choice and we know this

                    Moderators know how to read people and threads as we are highly trained
                    jj the hold on the BTP contest is not near what it has been. We can't afford to lose any accounts.
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                    • biggie12
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-30-05
                      • 13792

                      #150
                      Originally posted by BAUS
                      A former database contractor for SBR.
                      Yes.
                      They kicked me out years ago.

                      BAUS
                      i think they may be under new ownership i'm not certain though. been hitting alot of arbs on their side havent been limited at all.
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                      • Fishhead
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-11-05
                        • 40179

                        #151
                        Doug bring us a side of stuffing for Thanksgiving, you're not bringing anything else to the table here yet.

                        Thanks, and MERRY CHRISTMAS
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                        • BAUS
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 2191

                          #152
                          Originally posted by Doug tushyterror
                          That should clearly be 13,200 but if you're initial explanation was as obvious as your bet slip I would've gotten it. You mean to tell me if you email that slip to BM they wouldn't rectify it? Pretty sure they would. That $150 they're stiffing you on ain't gonna exactly make or break them. Great bet by the way!
                          Yes it was rectified. But it illustrates that there are problems with their betslip and they are not fixing it.

                          On Sunday I clicked -102 and was given -114. That’s a problem.

                          BAUS
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                          • KVB
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-29-14
                            • 74817

                            #153
                            Originally posted by BAUS
                            Yes it was rectified. But it illustrates that there are problems with their betslip and they are not fixing it.

                            On Sunday I clicked -102 and was given -114. That’s a problem.

                            BAUS
                            I don't agree. On Sunday you selected -102, but right before you submitted -102, it switched it to -114. From my knowledge and experience with this problem you submitted a -114. It changed, BEFORE you hit submit.

                            It's important semantics, and I agree it is a problem. That betslip should be frozen to the bettor upon change, this push towards one click submitting could be leaving holes in the software.
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                            • BAUS
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 2191

                              #154
                              Originally posted by KVB
                              I don't agree. On Sunday you selected -102, but right before you submitted -102, it switched it to -114. From my knowledge and experience with this problem you submitted a -114. It changed, BEFORE you hit submit.

                              It's important semantics, and I agree it is a problem. That betslip should be frozen to the bettor upon change, this push towards one click submitting could be leaving holes in the software.
                              I would say it changed “while” I clicked submit.

                              BAUS
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #155
                                Originally posted by BAUS
                                I would say it changed “while” I clicked submit.

                                BAUS
                                Yeah, I'm on your side here, it's exactly what happened. It should not happen expecially the way BM moves lines and prices right before game time.

                                One solid poster calls it the BM spaz. Also, because it's possible to get a better or worse line doesn't make it ok.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #156
                                  It’s too close to call therefore I will rule bookmaker the winner although SBR’s administrators have alerted Bookmaker on a potential minor issue
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                                  • KVB
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 05-29-14
                                    • 74817

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    It’s too close to call therefore I will rule bookmaker the winner although SBR’s administrators have alerted Bookmaker on a potential minor issue
                                    You can't have it both ways. You can't say BM "wins" and then say there is a minor problem that SBR needed to be alerted to.

                                    We can all agree, Bm is solid, but this is an issue that has trapped many a bettor, and it's only as minor as the dollar amount you bet.

                                    You think this is minor????...

                                    Originally posted by BAUS
                                    Bet Chiefs -7.5 at -102.

                                    After I click submit it moved to -114. Then accepted the bet.

                                    They just screwed me over for $4800 in juice...
                                    Granted, even BAUS agrees it happened as he clicked but what's minor to some is not to a business.

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                                    • big joe 1212
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 06-01-08
                                      • 19380

                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                      It’s too close to call therefore I will rule bookmaker the winner although SBR’s administrators have alerted Bookmaker on a potential minor issue
                                      They were alerted months ago about this problem you nitwit
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                                      • BAUS
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 2191

                                        #159
                                        For Michael Jack Corbin:

                                        $45,600 @-114
                                        vs
                                        $40,800 @-102

                                        Equals $4800 in rape


                                        BAUS
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #160
                                          Guys I’m the judge of all this there is no Jury I am it


                                          Hopefully what will come of this bookmaker might alter some technical glitches if there are any which is still in question, let’s make no mistake about it this is an A+ sportsbook
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                                          • ace7550
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-08-15
                                            • 3729

                                            #161
                                            BM definitely A+. But they need to freeze the betslip if the odds change. This should not be that difficult to fix.
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                                            • deeppckts
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 12-19-12
                                              • 830

                                              #162
                                              That Tigers ticket is just more proof their betslip is fukked.

                                              If bookmaker stole $300 from Doug tushyterror, he would be going apeshit and everyone would be on his side. Stiff book! Pay the player!
                                              Instead they steal more than $4000 from a player behind a 'tech glitch' and people are telling him to be more careful or denying it even happened.

                                              TECH "glitches" and BTC shenanigans are the newest forms of sportsbook stiffjobs and SBR should be pushing back hard on this.

                                              5Dimes --> steal any possible BTC upside while your deposit is pending.
                                              Pinnacle --> give you bad BTC price, if you complain, they tell you to 'contact BTC'.
                                              BOL --> Have stale lines, if you try to bet the good stale line they stop you. If you try to bet the bad line [which is worse than their actual current odds], they let you screw yourself.
                                              BM --> ticket theft. Change price on you while you hit submit, or while your bet is in the Spinny Circle of doom.

                                              And our judge and jury is jjgold, who has never in 20 years made a deposit or wager more than $50 offshore
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                                              • ace7550
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-08-15
                                                • 3729

                                                #163
                                                I still would like to see some visual proof of the BM "glitch." I have been playing there for years. Never wagered 40k but I've wagered well over 1k. I've never had this happen.
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                                                • deeppckts
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 12-19-12
                                                  • 830

                                                  #164
                                                  Try betting halftimes. You take some line +110 and it moves to +108, your bet will just spin and spin. Then eventually if line stays low your bet is canceled. But, if line jumps up to +112 let's say, they then accept your wager at +110.

                                                  These issues won't happen to you when lines are just sitting there. If you bet a thanksgiving game right now you'll be fine. It's when odds are moving rapidly.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #165
                                                    Ace
                                                    I don’t see any proof this could just be sour Gamblers that lost a bet


                                                    We know how gamblers are they can’t be trusted and they want everything their way all the time

                                                    The suits at bookmaker are some of the most upstanding people you’ll ever meet
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                                                    • deeppckts
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 12-19-12
                                                      • 830

                                                      #166
                                                      Pinnacle's bet slip had this all figured out 15 years ago or even more. But somehow other books can't figure it out in 2020. Hmm!
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                                                      • deeppckts
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 12-19-12
                                                        • 830

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        Ace
                                                        I don’t see any proof this could just be sour Gamblers that lost a bet


                                                        We know how gamblers are they can’t be trusted and they want everything their way all the time

                                                        The suits at bookmaker are some of the most upstanding people you’ll ever meet
                                                        He posted about this before the game even began.
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                                                        • Optional
                                                          Administrator
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 61672

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by ace7550
                                                          I still would like to see some visual proof of the BM "glitch." I have been playing there for years. Never wagered 40k but I've wagered well over 1k. I've never had this happen.
                                                          Bigjoe's report can be trusted.

                                                          But BAUS insisted his problem is not just what BigJoe experienced. He is claiming something far more nefarious. Waiting to see if he can come up with his promised video to back up what he claimed about odds changing after he submitted before deciding what to do about this.
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                                                          • ronald
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-31-05
                                                            • 4919

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by deeppckts
                                                            That Tigers ticket is just more proof their betslip is fukked.

                                                            If bookmaker stole $300 from Doug tushyterror, he would be going apeshit and everyone would be on his side. Stiff book! Pay the player!
                                                            Instead they steal more than $4000 from a player behind a 'tech glitch' and people are telling him to be more careful or denying it even happened.

                                                            TECH "glitches" and BTC shenanigans are the newest forms of sportsbook stiffjobs and SBR should be pushing back hard on this.

                                                            5Dimes --> steal any possible BTC upside while your deposit is pending.
                                                            Pinnacle --> give you bad BTC price, if you complain, they tell you to 'contact BTC'.
                                                            BOL --> Have stale lines, if you try to bet the good stale line they stop you. If you try to bet the bad line [which is worse than their actual current odds], they let you screw yourself.
                                                            BM --> ticket theft. Change price on you while you hit submit, or while your bet is in the Spinny Circle of doom.

                                                            And our judge and jury is jjgold, who has never in 20 years made a deposit or wager more than $50 offshore
                                                            Let's not forget the BETCRIS 3.5% tax on any payouts deemed "non-recreational"

                                                            The highest BTC payout fees in the business, if I'm not mistaken. Most books don't charge anything.
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                                                            • KVB
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 05-29-14
                                                              • 74817

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by deeppckts
                                                              Try betting halftimes. You take some line +110 and it moves to +108, your bet will just spin and spin. Then eventually if line stays low your bet is canceled. But, if line jumps up to +112 let's say, they then accept your wager at +110.

                                                              These issues won't happen to you when lines are just sitting there. If you bet a thanksgiving game right now you'll be fine. It's when odds are moving rapidly.
                                                              And they are no stranger to rapidly moving lines...lol.
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                                                              • SimpleJack
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 09-26-20
                                                                • 537

                                                                #171
                                                                http://https://sportshandle.com/pro-...hill-cheating/
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                                                                • SimpleJack
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-26-20
                                                                  • 537

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Nevada's William Hill operations have been accused of cheating players with in-game wagers, accusations that Hill calls "outrageous".
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                                                                  • Roscoe_Word
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-28-12
                                                                    • 3999

                                                                    #173
                                                                    The Spin/Hold in queue delay process.

                                                                    It has an official name.
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                                                                    • BAUS
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                                      • 2191

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                                      Bigjoe's report can be trusted.

                                                                      But BAUS insisted his problem is not just what BigJoe experienced. He is claiming something far more nefarious. Waiting to see if he can come up with his promised video to back up what he claimed about odds changing after he submitted before deciding what to do about this.


                                                                      You’re implying that I’m telling lies here? Sure, I just took the worst possible price available on purpose 🥴.

                                                                      I’ll have a video soon enough.

                                                                      BAUS
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                                                                      • KVB
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 05-29-14
                                                                        • 74817

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by Roscoe_Word

                                                                        The Spin/Hold in queue delay process.

                                                                        It has an official name.
                                                                        Interesting article, but I think we all knew this happens, at least anybody who's ever bet live at the WH counter.

                                                                        Then there's this...

                                                                        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Believe it or not, there is nothing in Nevada&#39;s gaming regulations explicitly prohibiting a sportsbook from delaying &amp; preferentially accepting/rejecting live bets based on what transpired during that delay.<br><br>We �� need �� better �� regulations ��<a href="https://t.co/Y0sxEBMmRh">https://t.co/Y0sxEBMmRh</a></p>&mdash; Rufus (@RufusPeabody) <a href="https://twitter.com/RufusPeabody/status/1318299087410761728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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