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  • Justin3587
    SBR MVP
    • 08-29-12
    • 2566

    #1
    Bankroll Management Ideas
    So, I have a habit of just betting whatever I want when I get that "gut instinct". It varies.

    I was just curious if any of yall have any actual bankroll systems you follow or do you just do the same?
  • RudyRuetigger
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-24-10
    • 65084

    #2
    All in every play
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    • pologq
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-07-12
      • 19899

      #3
      i don't. i should. i go by instinct too much. i tried and i failed at using management recently.
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      • daneblazer
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 09-14-08
        • 27861

        #4
        15-20% of BR per week but Most gamblers are just taking shots. Nobody wants to grind out $10 bets. You’ll need bankroll management if you have a large amount of $ or doing this for the long haul. Otherwise just bet what you want and reload the next week as long as it’s not giving you stress and you can pay the bills when you lose.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          2% every play of bankroll
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          • Justin3587
            SBR MVP
            • 08-29-12
            • 2566

            #6
            Originally posted by daneblazer
            15-20% of BR per week but Most gamblers are just taking shots. Nobody wants to grind out $10 bets. You’ll need bankroll management if you have a large amount of $ or doing this for the long haul. Otherwise just bet what you want and reload the next week as long as it’s not giving you stress and you can pay the bills when you lose.
            Fair Point. The idea of a system seems like a lot of work.
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            • veriableodds
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-22-17
              • 5095

              #7
              Originally posted by jjgold
              2% every play of bankroll
              Thats pretty aggressive. (would definitely re adjust what that 2% is off 20% ceilings)
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              • The General
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-10-05
                • 13279

                #8
                Invest in anything other than gambling.
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                • Vyasports
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-27-19
                  • 4946

                  #9
                  Bankroll Management is for someone who can control his emotions. If you are serious about making a living off betting on sports, then you have to develop Emotional Intelligence (google it).
                  You can have over 90% win rate and making little profits everyday, but then comes one little loss that makes you "tilt" , that's when you fail.
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                  • pattymayo
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-19-09
                    • 10221

                    #10
                    Originally posted by daneblazer
                    15-20% of BR per week but Most gamblers are just taking shots. Nobody wants to grind out $10 bets. You’ll need bankroll management if you have a large amount of $ or doing this for the long haul. Otherwise just bet what you want and reload the next week as long as it’s not giving you stress and you can pay the bills when you lose.
                    Completely agree. I gave up on the grinding 2% bankroll per play strategy a long time ago. No dopamine rush there.

                    Now I just set aside a few hundred or so a month and look at it like a lottery ticket. Go all in a few times and hope you are running hot that day. Starting with $100, four in a row gets you to $1600 or so. Obviously not easy, but it's doable. Really, as cliché as it is, it just comes down to only gamble what you can afford to lose. Then do whatever strategy gives you the rush you crave.
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                    • Sam Odom
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-30-05
                      • 58063

                      #11
                      One , just one way...

                      0.75% of BR using 3x Marty

                      Learn ^ that from lakerboy many many years ago
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                      • veriableodds
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-22-17
                        • 5095

                        #12
                        yeah boo hoo nobody wants to wait years for results. Bankroll only reaches new highs about 15% of the time, and looking at it from an investment eye you will beat the market in % return by 3-8x good lord cannot imagine why anyone would want to be successful.
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                        • Sam Odom
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-30-05
                          • 58063

                          #13
                          Originally posted by veriableodds


                          yeah boo hoo nobody wants to wait years for results. Bankroll only reaches new highs about 15% of the time, and looking at it from an investment eye you will beat the market in % return by 3-8x good lord cannot imagine why anyone would want to be successful.


                          Answer Below:


                          Originally posted by pattymayo


                          No dopamine rush there.
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                          • veriableodds
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-22-17
                            • 5095

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                            Answer Below:
                            thats why vegas has marble pillars, and most posters here still driving '78 yugo's with no gas in the tank half rusted out. Its like a big city dilemma living in filth and proud of it
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                            • veriableodds
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-22-17
                              • 5095

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sam Odom
                              One , just one way...

                              0.75% of BR using 3x Marty

                              Learn ^ that from lakerboy many many years ago

                              so if you lose 6 in a row which isn't out of the question, you would be down 10.5u
                              back to the grind 0.75-units lol
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                              • Roger T. Bannon
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 06-28-18
                                • 5139

                                #16
                                You should basically come up with a standard bet. Preferrably $50 or less. And take a few shots when you think you have a can't miss. That's basically the best way to limit losses and have a good time. If you are half way decent, your best bets should be pretty good and you have a decent shot at breaking even.

                                Profitable gambling is extremely boring and soul crushing. It is not for many.
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                                • Sam Odom
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-30-05
                                  • 58063

                                  #17
                                  veriableodds

                                  No

                                  ONLY 3 in a row (3x)

                                  Lose 3 start over
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                                  • veriableodds
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-22-17
                                    • 5095

                                    #18
                                    Martingale

                                    A martingale is any of a class of betting strategies that originated from and were popular in 18th-century France. The simplest of these strategies was designed for a game in which the gambler wins the stake if a coin comes up heads and loses it if the coin comes up tails. The strategy had the gambler double the bet after every loss, so that the first win would recover all previous losses plus win a profit equal to the original stake. The martingale strategy has been applied to roulette as well, as the probability of hitting either red or black is close to 50%.

                                    Martingale (betting system) - Wikipedia

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(betting_system)

                                    you mentioned
                                    One , just one way...

                                    0.75% of BR using 3x Marty

                                    1)0.75
                                    2)1.5/2.25
                                    3)3/5.25 x2 = 10.5
                                    unless you have customized to your own system


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                                    • Optional
                                      Administrator
                                      • 06-10-10
                                      • 62004

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Justin3587
                                      So, I have a habit of just betting whatever I want when I get that "gut instinct". It varies.

                                      I was just curious if any of yall have any actual bankroll systems you follow or do you just do the same?
                                      Probably best to just stick to flat stakes if betting that way.

                                      Pick a unit size that will satisfy you when making a "random" bet, and then use 1.5x and 2x as your big bet sizes. And rule out the allin plays.

                                      If you can't stick to it, then your unit size is probably not large enough.
                                      .
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                                      • Sam Odom
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-30-05
                                        • 58063

                                        #20
                                        As Sammy said , its a Marty

                                        If someone does not know the risks... should not be gambling
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          Another way is just been a lot of small parlays try to make scores
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                                          • Sam Odom
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-30-05
                                            • 58063

                                            #22
                                            JJ

                                            explain the Birdcage
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                                            • BigdaddyQH
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-13-09
                                              • 19530

                                              #23
                                              You MUST develop a system and exercise some type of control, or you will NEVER win. I have used the same system for many years and only had one losing year. I always wager the same amount on every wager I make. One wager should be as good as the next. If not, your system does not work. And above all, be patient. Especially you guys in here. Be satisfied with small wins because few, if any of you, ever get that far.
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                                              • daneblazer
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 09-14-08
                                                • 27861

                                                #24
                                                Ya if you’re being serious about betting or doing this for a living, you absolutely have to be disciplined with your money management. If you just got 100 bucks a week just wing it and bank it once you reach a certain point. Ain’t nobody got time for a bunch of $2 bets.
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                                                • Snowball
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                                                  • 11-15-09
                                                  • 30064

                                                  #25
                                                  Sammy, to save JJ time I am stepping in with a birdcage explanation.
                                                  Hopefully it shows up in the search engines so people can refer to this
                                                  as there are hardly any good explanations on the interwebs.

                                                  THE BIRDCAGE BET:

                                                  NFL example: Patriots -3 (-110), Bills +4 (-110), VIkings -7 (-110)

                                                  3 Birds In the Cage:

                                                  1 Patriots IF Bills
                                                  2 Bills IF Patriots
                                                  3 Patriots IF Vikings
                                                  4 Vikings IF Patriots
                                                  5 Bills IF Vikings
                                                  6 VIkings IF Bills

                                                  Push or cancel can be action or no action. You choose.

                                                  Wager Amount: $660 (10% juice)

                                                  If win all 3: + $1200
                                                  If win 2, lose 1: +$160
                                                  If win 1, lose 2: -$460
                                                  If lose all 3: $-660

                                                  Pushes were more common when this bet was popular with old timers.
                                                  Lines in newspapers and locals stuck at field goal, touchdown, 10, 14, etc.

                                                  When pushes are action:

                                                  If push 1, win 2: +$800
                                                  If push 1, win 1, lose 1: $-140
                                                  If push 1, lose 2: $-600
                                                  If push 2, win 1: +$400
                                                  If push 2, lose 1: $-440

                                                  When pushes are not action:

                                                  If push 1, win 2: +$600
                                                  If push 1, win 1, lose 1: $-20
                                                  If push 1, lose 2: $--440
                                                  If push 2, win 1: +$200
                                                  If push 2, lose 1: $-220


                                                  Comparison with Straight Bets:
                                                  3 win: Birdcage 2x payout of Straight Bets
                                                  2 win, 1 lose: Birdcage .888/1 of Straight Bets payout
                                                  1 win, 2 lose: Birdcage .52/1 of Straight Bets return
                                                  -and so on with pushes depending on action or no action-
                                                  * you can also put 4,5,6 birds in the cage for more action.
                                                  the 6 was the "double birdcage".
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                                                  • pologq
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-07-12
                                                    • 19899

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Snowball
                                                    Sammy, to save JJ time I am stepping in with a birdcage explanation.
                                                    Hopefully it shows up in the search engines so people can refer to this
                                                    as there are hardly any good explanations on the interwebs.

                                                    THE BIRDCAGE BET:

                                                    NFL example: Patriots -3 (-110), Bills +4 (-110), VIkings -7 (-110)

                                                    Birds In the Cage:

                                                    1 Patriots IF Bills
                                                    2 Bills IF Patriots
                                                    3 Patriots IF Vikings
                                                    4 Vikings IF Patriots
                                                    5 Bills IF Vikings
                                                    6 VIkings IF Bills

                                                    Push or cancel can be action or no action. You choose.

                                                    Wager Amount: $660 (10% juice)

                                                    If win all 3: + $1200
                                                    If win 2, lose 1: +$160
                                                    If win 1, lose 2: -$460
                                                    If lose all 3: $-660

                                                    Pushes were more common when this bet was popular with old timers.
                                                    Lines in newspapers and locals stuck at field goal, touchdown, 10, 14, etc.

                                                    When pushes are action:

                                                    If push 1, win 2: +$800
                                                    If push 1, win 1, lose 1: $-140
                                                    If push 1, lose 2: $-600
                                                    If push 2, win 1: +$400
                                                    If push 2, lose 1: $-440

                                                    When pushes are not action:

                                                    If push 1, win 2: +$600
                                                    If push 1, win 1, lose 1: $-20
                                                    If push 1, lose 2: $--440
                                                    If push 2, win 1: +$200
                                                    If push 2, lose 1: $-220


                                                    Comparison with Straight Bets:
                                                    3 win: Birdcage 2x payout of Straight Bets
                                                    2 win, 1 lose: Birdcage .888/1 of Straight Bets payout
                                                    1 win, 2 lose: Birdcage .52/1 of Straight Bets return
                                                    -and so on with pushes depending on action or no action-
                                                    this is really interesting. thank you.
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                                                    • Sam Odom
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-30-05
                                                      • 58063

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Snowball



                                                      Sammy, to save JJ time I am stepping in with a birdcage explanation.

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                                                      • Snowball
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 11-15-09
                                                        • 30064

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by pologq
                                                        this is really interesting. thank you.
                                                        you're welcome.
                                                        sometimes guys would have more than 3 birds in the cage (6 bets); they would
                                                        do 4 birds (12 bets) or even 6 (30 bets), known as the "double birdcage".
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                                                        • Sam Odom
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-30-05
                                                          • 58063

                                                          #29
                                                          Snow

                                                          Sammy liked it when you said , "...this bet was popular with old timers"
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                                                          • deeppckts
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 12-19-12
                                                            • 830

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Justin3587
                                                            So, I have a habit of just betting whatever I want when I get that "gut instinct". It varies.

                                                            I was just curious if any of yall have any actual bankroll systems you follow or do you just do the same?
                                                            Another idiot that thinks bankroll management is going to make up for lack of +EV bets.
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              whatever you use the bankroll ends up at zero
                                                              sports betting =slow death
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                                                              • Snowball
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 11-15-09
                                                                • 30064

                                                                #32
                                                                After this week I'm gonna do a couple birdcages and see what happens.
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                                                                • KVB
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                                  • 74817

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                                  ...I always wager the same amount on every wager I make...
                                                                  This guy has lies within his lies.

                                                                  Let's forget that he's claiming he won bets he never made, but he also claims he's betting to win $100. There's no way he bet the same amount on Alabama moneylines and it's to win $100 each time.

                                                                  Nevermind the fact that some of those moneylines he claims to win never existed anyway as Bama was like -40 points in some of those games...

                                                                  Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                                  ...If you wagered on Alabama during regular season games only and wagered the Money Line only, you would be way ahead of the game. From 2011 until 2018, Alabama has never lost more than one regular season game in a season, and in two of those seasons, they went undefeated. So you have two 12-0 seasons and 6 11-1 seasons. That means if you wagered $100 per game, you would have two $1200 and 8 seasons where you would have won $1100 and lost one wager....
                                                                  Read that again, just how stupid is BigDaddy? Morono stupid???

                                                                  Big Daddy gives Vittard and Morono a run for dumbest posters here.

                                                                  Hands down.



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                                                                  • deeppckts
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 12-19-12
                                                                    • 830

                                                                    #34
                                                                    If you're not making +EV bets, no bet size will prevent you from going broke.
                                                                    But yeah, sure, bankroll management is your problem. I'm sure some slots players even believe that.
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