What do you do when you find out another person is a sports Gambler?

Eddy Munny · 11-13-20, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by Chiefs83

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pologq · 11-13-20, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by Tanko

Several years ago I'm hammering this girl I picked up at a bar. You know, one of those one night stands that happens every now and then.

She was like an 7. Not bad, not great, but good enough.

After about 35 minutes of hitting it pretty hard and wrapping it up, I asked her, "What are the odds of getting together again?". Her reply was, "about -120". I was like "What did you just say?". She politely added, "maybe -130 to -140". I felt good about the odds she gave and found out she was a gambling encyclopedia. She has a gambling family (Mom was a pit boss, Dad a casino manager in vegas).

From that point on, sex was an afterthought. I learned more from her about sports gamblng than from anyone else I'd ever met.
We're still friends and I talk with her regularly.

Strange s#!t...

that is like the holy grail

pologq · 11-13-20, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Waterstpub87

Don't let anyone at work find out. Normally, those other sports gamblers are desperate to meet other sports gamblers. They will talk to you about it endlessly, especially during NFL season. Any conversation will get steered into sports gambling. Everyone else I've ever met at work/school, ~14 or 15, has been the exact same way. Its annoying as hell, especially when you are on a losing streak.

and they are always on winning streaks. they never lose. or you will never hear anything when they lose, only when they win, so they lead you to believe they are experts.

i can only be friends with those who bet and are honest. you can tell within a month if they are.

Roger T. Bannon · 11-13-20, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by pologq

that is like the holy grail

The only thing worse than one loser in a relationship is two losers.

Fishhead · 11-13-20, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Never have gambler friends there’s snakes, liars and thieves if I associate with people it’s usually high class that have nothing to do with gambling

Like plumbers and fast food workers?????

Have fun

Roger T. Bannon · 11-13-20, 10:00 AM

To answer the question, I kind of snicker to myself and think: "Oh brother, I wonder how much this moron has lost."

Fishhead · 11-13-20, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon

To answer the question, I kind of snicker to myself and think: "Oh brother, I wonder how much this moron has lost."

pologq · 11-13-20, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon

The only thing worse than one loser in a relationship is two losers.

2 losers equals 1 winner. it is science.

thetrinity · 11-13-20, 11:15 AM

Ignore them forever after that. They will drain your life.

jjgold · 11-13-20, 11:23 AM

Sports gamblers are dirty

Waterstpub87 · 11-13-20, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by pologq

and they are always on winning streaks. they never lose. or you will never hear anything when they lose, only when they win, so they lead you to believe they are experts.

i can only be friends with those who bet and are honest. you can tell within a month if they are.

My experience has been the opposite. They want to commiserate about losing.

It is much worse because I live in NJ with it legalized. Everyone is terrible when they first start. Imagine being surrounded by people who are first starting.

veriableodds · 11-13-20, 01:07 PM

Go out for coffe discuss picks
become friends

pologq · 11-13-20, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by Waterstpub87

My experience has been the opposite. They want to commiserate about losing.

It is much worse because I live in NJ with it legalized. Everyone is terrible when they first start. Imagine being surrounded by people who are first starting.

i can't imagine talking to all of these newbies who think it is a foregone conclusion they will be buying houses with their winnings

KVB · 11-13-20, 02:13 PM

I tell them to shut the fukk up and if they want to learn how to win to listen to me.

Then I destroy their entire world personally and culturally with a hard truth about sports betting and why teams win and lose. Not to mention the fundamentals of book making and even more myths to bust.

That weeds out the bullshit and those who really want to learn stick around. I’ve trained dozens of successful handicappers.

The biggest hurdle most of these guys have is their egos and some people simply don’t have the ability to move forward. Those that can move forward often get shaken out anyway never even realizing they were taken for ride.

Rinse and repeat the same thing happens every year.

There’s no substitute for experience, but only if you can learn from it.

PaperTrail07 · 11-13-20, 02:19 PM

100% the reason I don't play fantasy---lol....

Originally posted by Waterstpub87

Don't let anyone at work find out. Normally, those other sports gamblers are desperate to meet other sports gamblers. They will talk to you about it endlessly, especially during NFL season. Any conversation will get steered into sports gambling. Everyone else I've ever met at work/school, ~14 or 15, has been the exact same way. Its annoying as hell, especially when you are on a losing streak.

littlekona · 11-13-20, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Otters27

Like someone at work, a neighbor or in-law.

I'm rarely friends with anyone that doesn't bet sports.

Love finding new friends. Sometimes you can peg them but sometimes they are in disguise

they wont be friends for long because once you hit brag about it they will say hey throw me a few bucks then if you do you may never see them again or at least until they hit something. Thats how it works in the gambling friends worlds

KVB · 11-13-20, 02:29 PM

I don't mind these guys talking about it to me, I know deep down they are the reason I win long term.

It doesn't take a very long 2 way discussion for them to realize I'm on another level, playing chess while they are playing checkers, and I can identify weak spots in both personality and handicapping, and can help them some of them with it.

I've seen 1000s of handicapping methods in action.

But I've been doing at a very long time, on both sides of the counter, and even the most advanced up us understand there's always more to learn. Shit, I've seen some very successful long term bettors not understand simple things, like vigorish and how parlays work.

Seen that here at SBR.

In the end I offer to teach, soemthing I used to do a lot of here at SBR.

pologq · 11-13-20, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

100% the reason I don't play fantasy---lol....

the absolute worst, especially when it is a fantasy league with people at work

KVB · 11-13-20, 02:54 PM

Yeah, the fantasy guys are so into it, but I think they lack situational awareness.

So busy looking at the trees that they fail to see the forest.

Often they think success at fantasy sports means they have a clue, when they are never testing whether or not they were just lucky or skilled.

My sports handicapping involves just as much testing of my shit as it does actually creating it and doing the handicapping.

It's a bit tougher to reliably test fantasy results, but at least in fantasy you are only against a select group, each week, and not the market as a whole.

eidolon · 11-13-20, 03:08 PM

I try to stay away from them, because there they are more than likely a mush.

I only met one guy that seemed to be a legit better. He and his friend would only bet on MMA fights; the thing is they never would watch the matches. They ran numbers and would win. He was a very intelligent guy. They did this only during their grad school years.

KVB · 11-13-20, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by eidolon

I try to stay away from them, because there they are more than likely a mush.

I only met one guy that seemed to be a legit better. He and his friend would only bet on MMA fights; the thing is they never would watch the matches. They ran numbers and would win. He was a very intelligent guy. They did this only during their grad school years.

There was a time where MMA was really soft and easy to push the lines around. Colleagues who focus on it have all said it has changed a bit over the years, especially with the explosion of events and coverage.

Some of them still say opportunity exists, thanks to it becoming more widespread betting wise, but it's not like it was.

PaperTrail07 · 11-13-20, 04:02 PM

Honestly-I think the amount of opportunity is overwhelming now--you would have time-pick your spots ect...now there are new names and cards all the time-weird situations-short notice ect---people used to snipe MMA winners, they now play dogs like it MLB or something...There are still easy wins out there....but like any sport you pay juice and it gets tougher by the day to pick a dog.......

Originally posted by KVB

There was a time where MMA was really soft and easy to push the lines around. Colleagues who focus on it have all said it has changed a bit over the years, especially with the explosion of events and coverage.

Some of them still say opportunity exists, thanks to it becoming more widespread betting wise, but it's not like it was.

KVB · 11-13-20, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

Honestly-I think the amount of opportunity is overwhelming now--you would have time-pick your spots ect...now there are new names and cards all the time-weird situations-short notice ect---people used to snipe MMA winners, they now play dogs like it MLB or something...There are still easy wins out there....but like any sport you pay juice and it gets tougher by the day to pick a dog.......

Like this viewpoint, the popularity brings opportunity and I've seen stats collected at an advanced level on thousands of MMA fights and styles, and I can honestly say the markets are not efficient, it seems.

But the vig is high, that's for sure.

pologq · 11-13-20, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by KVB

Yeah, the fantasy guys are so into it, but I think they lack situational awareness.

So busy looking at the trees that they fail to see the forest.

Often they think success at fantasy sports means they have a clue, when they are never testing whether or not they were just lucky or skilled.

My sports handicapping involves just as much testing of my shit as it does actually creating it and doing the handicapping.

It's a bit tougher to reliably test fantasy results, but at least in fantasy you are only against a select group, each week, and not the market as a whole.

well said

KVB · 11-13-20, 04:19 PM

I've noticed with MMA that sometimes we get two strikers but one of them is a grappler.

If that the other striker has been flashing, knocking opponents the fukk out, they start to get money and get pulbicly skewed.

Eventually he runs into another strike who can grapple.

The inevetible submission and upset win.

I call it getting Meatball McCanned in memory of the quintessential example when Molly Meatball McCann got armbarred.

lol.

The only fighter to really buck this trend is one of my favorite fighters of all...

Derrick "My Ballz was hot and I gotta take shit" Lewis!

He's a real bitch to submit.

PaperTrail07 · 11-13-20, 04:39 PM

They get away with almost unreal Vig in mma and boxing...

Originally posted by KVB

Like this viewpoint, the popularity brings opportunity and I've seen stats collected at an advanced level on thousands of MMA fights and styles, and I can honestly say the markets are not efficient, it seems.

But the vig is high, that's for sure.

eidolon · 11-14-20, 05:15 AM

Originally posted by KVB

There was a time where MMA was really soft and easy to push the lines around. Colleagues who focus on it have all said it has changed a bit over the years, especially with the explosion of events and coverage.

Some of them still say opportunity exists, thanks to it becoming more widespread betting wise, but it's not like it was.

Yeah, this was around 2013.