Stock market does better under democratic presidents

[kelly@Vegas]

https://www.mcleanam.com/are-republicans-or-democrats-better-for-the-stock-market/

[dark star]

yep Democrat.... D=Drive Republicon= R=Reverse

[no1here]

if Dems win election the stock markets is to crash without a doubt

[kelly@Vegas]

if Dems win election the stock markets is to crash without a doubt

Stop with the fear mongering. democrats have to
always come in and clean up the mess every single dam time.

[MinnesotaFats]

The article is so JV.

Doesn't cute the biggest reason the 'averages' are close....

FDR
TRUMAN
BHO

all had MASSIVE gains fueled by an expanded money supply due to war or the 09 market crash.

Republicans have always, up until this year, kept their spending/ market interference to a minimum and within the rate of inflation if not an outright contracting money supply.

If ANYONE believes liberal tax and spend policy works then buy Cuban or Venezuelan currency or bonds, I'm sure you'll make out just fine.

Very infuriating when educated people, and the author is clearly bright, intentionally publish clearly misleading premises and then defend then.

It's malpractice

[lonegambler23]

Stop with the fear mongering. democrats have to
always come in and clean up the mess every single dam time.

what was the market when dumbo was in charge? thats right like 10/12 thousand.. but good one

[Shark]

Stock market performance isn’t correlated to the president at all

[lakerboy]

Herbert Hoover.

Republican president from 1929-1933.

[RudyRuetigger]

joke thread


where are mods to saloon this?

[Judge Crater]

very small sample size

[TommieGunshot]

Republicans have always, up until this year, kept their spending/ market interference to a minimum and within the rate of inflation if not an outright contracting money supply.

All the available data shows this is not true. Compare debt / deficit with R as president compared to D in our life times. Reagan, Bush, Trump have been the kings at driving up our national debt. Carter, Clinton, Obama kept it much more under control. It's even more drastic when you ignore the years there were presidents from one party operating under a budget from the other.

When it comes to debt, and spending money we don't have, the Republicans are extreme liberals.

[RudyRuetigger]

mods working today?????

[thomorino]

This is a completely misleading comment because their was republican control of the house and senate for most of both Clinton and Obama’s terms which ensured we saw conservative policies for most of those presidents 2 terms.

[TommieGunshot]

This is a completely misleading comment because their was republican control of the house and senate for most of both Clinton and Obama’s terms which ensured we saw conservative policies for most of those presidents 2 terms.

When Obama was president, Republicans had control of both sides of Congress for only two years, Democrats had control of both sides for two years (and one of those years, they were operating under Bush's budget), and it was split for four years.

When Bush Jr and Trump were sending the debt to completely crushing and unmanageable levels, Republicans had complete control of Congress and presidency for six out of 12 years. There was a split in Congress for only two of those years (and four years there was a tie in the Senate). And of course the years both Bush and Trump did the least damage to our national debt were their very first year in office, when the budget was passed under Clinton and Obama.

So when we add Congress to the mix, it becomes even more clear the Republicans have become the party of extreme liberals at spending money we don't have

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses

[jjgold]

Wrong Kelly

You are not an economist

[thomorino]

When Obama was president, Republicans had control of both sides of Congress for only two years, Democrats had control of both sides for two years (and one of those years, they were operating under Bush's budget), and it was split for four years.

When Bush Jr and Trump were sending the debt to completely crushing and unmanageable levels, Republicans had complete control of Congress and presidency for six out of 12 years. There was a split in Congress for only two of those years (and four years there was a tie in the Senate). And of course the years both Bush and Trump did the least damage to our national debt were their very first year in office, when the budget was passed under Clinton and Obama.

So when we add Congress to the mix, it becomes even more clear the Republicans have become the party of extreme liberals at spending money we don't have

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_...tes_Congresses

Not true, Republicans set the agenda during both Clinton and Obama, look at the policies passed.

[d2bets]

Love people arguing over stone cold facts. It's like a team covers and half of the board says "no, they played like shit".

[Fred The Hammer]

The article is so JV.

Doesn't cute the biggest reason the 'averages' are close....

FDR
TRUMAN
BHO

all had MASSIVE gains fueled by an expanded money supply due to war or the 09 market crash.

Republicans have always, up until this year, kept their spending/ market interference to a minimum and within the rate of inflation if not an outright contracting money supply.

If ANYONE believes liberal tax and spend policy works then buy Cuban or Venezuelan currency or bonds, I'm sure you'll make out just fine.

Very infuriating when educated people, and the author is clearly bright, intentionally publish clearly misleading premises and then defend then.

It's malpractice

teabagger party: Came out of nowhere in 2008. We hate Obama because....hmmmm? What can we say its about? Yeah.....he going to raise the deficit and we're all about small government....yeah thats it. trumpy doubles the deficit? Not a peep.

I'm 54 and the only POTUS in my lifetime to balance the budget was Bill Clinton. End Of Story

[TommieGunshot]

When Obama was president, Republicans had control of both sides of Congress for only two years, Democrats had control of both sides for two years (and one of those years, they were operating under Bush's budget), and it was split for four years.

When Bush Jr and Trump were sending the debt to completely crushing and unmanageable levels, Republicans had complete control of Congress and presidency for six out of 12 years. There was a split in Congress for only two of those years (and four years there was a tie in the Senate). And of course the years both Bush and Trump did the least damage to our national debt were their very first year in office, when the budget was passed under Clinton and Obama.

So when we add Congress to the mix, it becomes even more clear the Republicans have become the party of extreme liberals at spending money we don't have

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_...tes_CongressesNot true, Republicans set the agenda during both Clinton and Obama, look at the policies passed.

There is absolutely no explanation about how a minority party among the House of Representatives, the Senate, and the White House gets to control the policy. You have shifted from extreme liberalism into just being dishonest.

[maggiethebestdog]

Many factors lead to stock market activity at any given time

To say it is one person or one party is ludicrous

The market has done very well while both Obama and Trump were President

Another meaningless argument

[TommieGunshot]

Wrong Kelly

You are not an economist

I like where Jj is going. Sometimes we should look at the past results of the stock market though an entirely historical viewpoint. Instead of trying to determine why something happened, we need to first focus only on what happened.

[Heltah Skeltah]

Kelly you might do better underneath blacks..but the economy certainly doesn't

[thomorino]

There is absolutely no explanation about how a minority party among the House of Representatives, the Senate, and the White House gets to control the policy. You have shifted from extreme liberalism into just being dishonest.

You are a dumb shit.

Newt Gingrich not bill Clinton set the agenda in the 90s. That’s why we got a balanced budget, welfare reform, deregulation, the elimination of glass steagal, all republican ideas.

Market performance under Obama isn’t really relevant because the fed propped up the market, Obama was incompetent, but again the tea party set the agenda during the Obama year more than Obama. That’s why Obama couldn’t get rid of the bush tax cuts.

[MinnesotaFats]

teabagger party: Came out of nowhere in 2008. We hate Obama because....hmmmm? What can we say its about? Yeah.....he going to raise the deficit and we're all about small government....yeah thats it. trumpy doubles the deficit? Not a peep.

I'm 54 and the only POTUS in my lifetime to balance the budget was Bill Clinton. End Of Story

A president proposes a budget, only congress passes them.

My point being, and as I cited, until this year, Republicans have always limited their budgets to the rate of inflation.

In fact, I don't believe Obama ever passed a budget, he got a series of continuing resolutions.

Clinton and Gingrich did balance the Federal budget and on the back if welfare reform and the Bush 1991 tax overhaul which brought in a ton of new revenue but cost him the election.

The point being, the stock market is an indicator of the amount of money supply in the hands of the consumer. Liberals generally print a lot of money, some to consumer, most to business to buy votes, but disregard the long term effect of such policy. The market prices in this effect by driving up, often artificially, the value of consumer goods driven business. Conservatives generally allow the free market to take effect within the rate of inflation so the market gains in GOP era leadership are probably more aligned to genuine organic growth, real weather if you will, whereas the liberal gains are just on n inflated dollar....it's true benefit only to the uber wealthy.

[RudyRuetigger]

Ignorant dims

When will they learn???

[hawkwind]

Fake news & bs dem propaganda

https://www.mcleanam.com/are-republicans-or-democrats-better-for-the-stock-market/

[hawkwind]

yep Democrat.... D=Drive Republicon= R=Reverse

A Brain Dead SHEEP Response

[ChiLLx]

Please google "what is the Federal Reserve"

[thomorino]

Many factors lead to stock market activity at any given time

To say it is one person or one party is ludicrous

The market has done very well while both Obama and Trump were President

Another meaningless argument

The market has done far better under Trump than Obama this is a dumb comment that doesn’t understand economics.

The only real reason market went higher during the Obama years was because of the fed propping up the market with various quantitative easing policies creating inflation. Oil, food, copper, and other commodity costs went to record highs or near record highs. The trump economy produced a stronger and much more stabile economy and a stock market that reached record high well inflation remained much lower than under Obama, this is why mean income even adjusted for inflation is much higher in the US under Trump than it was under Obama.

[KVB]

mods working today?????

[kelly@Vegas]

The market has done far better under Trump than Obama this is a dumb comment that doesn’t understand economics.

The only real reason market went higher during the Obama years was because of the fed propping up the market with various quantitative easing policies creating inflation. Oil, food, copper, and other commodity costs went to record highs or near record highs. The trump economy produced a stronger and much more stabile economy and a stock market that reached record high well inflation remained much lower than under Obama, this is why mean income even adjusted for inflation is much higher in the US under Trump than it was under Obama.

How does it look now? O right its chinas fault lol
Don’t worry the democrats will come in and fix it like they always do. Just like they did with bush. And don’t think for a second that trump didn’t benefit from the boost obama gave him when he handed the keys over to the economy. That was all from the previous administration and it carried on through until trump screwed up the covid response and now he will be removed for his poor handling of it.

[TommieGunshot]

You are a dumb shit.

Newt Gingrich not bill Clinton set the agenda in the 90s. That’s why we got a balanced budget, welfare reform, deregulation, the elimination of glass steagal, all republican ideas.

Market performance under Obama isn’t really relevant because the fed propped up the market, Obama was incompetent, but again the tea party set the agenda during the Obama year more than Obama. That’s why Obama couldn’t get rid of the bush tax cuts.

It is so hilarious that whenever the facts do not fit your feelings you just turn to name calling.

[thomorino]

How does it look now? O right its chinas fault lol
Don’t worry the democrats will come in and fix it like they always do. Just like they did with bush. And don’t think for a second that trump didn’t benefit from the boost obama gave him when he handed the keys over to the economy. That was all from the previous administration and it carried on through until trump screwed up the covid response and now he will be removed for his poor handling of it.

Biden doesn’t have a single idea on how to do anything different than what Trumo is doing look at his so called bullshit plan.

Trump has cleaned up Obama’s mess across the board, the virus is one China not Trump. Biden didn’t even want to close the country down in January, Trumo saved thousands of lives.

[thomorino]

It is so hilarious that whenever the facts do not fit your feelings you just turn to name calling.

The facts are Clinton pursued republican ideas. Balanced budget, deregulation, welfare reform, thebClinton economy was strong because he pursued conservative economic policies.

You have no response on this point because you are wrong.

[TommieGunshot]

The market has done far better under Trump than Obama this is a dumb comment that doesn’t understand economics.

Liberal whackos are now trying to cling to whatever excuses they can to say that a lower return in the stock market means it was somehow "better". Market went up more per year with Obama, than it has done with Trump. Most all of the gains in the stock market with Trump happened in his first year, when Obama economic policies were still in effect. No lets see what hilarious way you try to spin this, because of how much these facts hurt your feelings.