How is Trump +175 this makes no sense

[JohnGalt2341]

Polls don't mean anything, we're talking about a hundred million voters. Where do they get these poll numbers from? A few tens of thousands?

Regardless, think it'll be a tight race. Many more people will vote for Biden over Hilary Clinton, that's for sure.

I would say Trump is a slight dog this time because you look at some of the minority groups he was able to get in 2016, he's not gonna get some of those this time.

Thursday's debate will have a lot to do with the outcome. It usually comes down to a few things that are said that can bury someone on social media. If Biden has a hiccup that will hurt him a lot. If Trump says something dumber than he's already said, not sure how that's possible but if he does, that can hurt him too.

Either way, think both these candidates are straight trash. If you think otherwise you're living in a bubble.

Good post. I don't know how much influence next weeks debate will have but I am fully expecting Trump's team of cheerleaders like Rush, and Hannity, and others will drop some "bombs" a day or two before the election. It'll be something about what a terrible person Biden is, and they won't have one shred of evidence but all of the cult will fall for it no matter how ridiculous it sounds. It could be something like... Biden was born on Jupiter and he tortures children on Mars. No matter what it is... the Trump cult will consider it fact.

[DwightShrute]

[Kermit]

This is the guy that is going to win?

[DwightShrute]

This is the guy that is going to win?

how could anyone vote for this guy?

The exact moment the democrats lost this election ...




kneeling to the mob rather than standing up to violence.

[rm18]

Pretty good athleticism on that knee.

[maggiethebestdog]

Trump could be +300 next week. Typical Trump supporter would say: "My man will win in a landslide but I don't want to quadruple my money."

So that means you are unloading on Biden now because the chalk will go up, right???

My God you are dumb, you know, besides being a compulsive lying hypocrite

[pavyracer]

So that means you are unloading on Biden now because the chalk will go up, right???

My God you are dumb, you know, besides being a compulsive lying hypocrite

No I'm not a stupid gambler. I got Biden +130 when Jibbby said Trump -150 was a steal.

[floridagolfer]

I can see why whenever I look through this forum I can find post after post of people mocking you. You are respected by no one and ridiculed by everyone.

And for the record moron.


Dow change under obama: 94%

Dow change under Trump: 111%


I understand you dont understand math like vitter but you should follow vitters lead and be quiet when I prove you're a liar.

And keep in mind Obama's benefited from a recession, QE and record corporate buybacks. But again I understand this means nothing to you because you're poor and stupid.

The DJIA under Trump is about 42 percent (I didn't figure out the exact numbers following today's close). Your figure of more than 100 percent is absolute lunacy.

[pavyracer]

The DJIA under Trump is about 42 percent (I didn't figure out the exact numbers following today's close). Your figure of more than 100 percent is absolute lunacy.

I think you are right. I think DJUA was around 22,000 on Trump's inaugeration.

[King Mayan]

Look at these homos and their cult

[TommieGunshot]

DJIA with Obama as president averaged +12% per year, or +148% in total, from 8000 to 19878

With Trump as president, averaging +10% per year, or +44% from 19878 to 28600 it is right now.

Of course almost 75% of those gains came in Trump's first year, when Obama budget still had influence over the economic conditions. In all of 2018, 2019, and the first 10 months of 2020, the DJIA is only +10% total, or about 3% per year.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI/history/ for anyone who wants to double check my math.

[BigPapi]

This is ridiculous. This is what I saw when I bet on Carrie Underwood. The line made no sense, but it kept going up. With a fair media, Trump is -30000 right now. Biden sold influence to Ukraine and CHINA. CHINA. The same country that has killed 215k Americans and wrecked our economy. Biden is a disgrace and should be in jail. The media has sold out so bad talking about how Trump is bad they have no fallback position. Total disaster for the swamp. Trump is going to win in a landslide.

[TheGuesser]

This is ridiculous. This is what I saw when I bet on Carrie Underwood. The line made no sense, but it kept going up. With a fair media, Trump is -30000 right now. Biden sold influence to Ukraine and CHINA. CHINA. The same country that has killed 215k Americans and wrecked our economy. Biden is a disgrace and should be in jail. The media has sold out so bad talking about how Trump is bad they have no fallback position. Total disaster for the swamp. Trump is going to win in a landslide.

So you maxed out at every book imaginable? Good job. I know Bookmaker takes 20,000, BAS will take 10,000. Not sure about them all, but you should have at least 50 Dimes on The Idiot with this kind of confidence. Post the Tickets BEFORE the election, so we can all congratulate you on the YUUUUGE score you're about to make, when it becomes a done deal.

[Fred The Hammer]

So you maxed out at every book imaginable? Good job. I know Bookmaker takes 20,000, BAS will take 10,000. Not sure about them all, but you should have at least 50 Dimes on The Idiot with this kind of confidence. Post the Tickets BEFORE the election, so we can all congratulate you on the YUUUUGE score you're about to make, when it becomes a done deal.

They don't post SHIT. They just flap their gums and type their bullshit like the little sheep they are

[manny24]

i have a saline generator so going to fill the pool will liberal tears won't take long

[pavyracer]

All Trump supporters will get rich. There man wins in a landslide and the books have nice odds on him. +175 guys. Load up on him.

[DwightShrute]

DJIA with Obama as president averaged +12% per year, or +148% in total, from 8000 to 19878

With Trump as president, averaging +10% per year, or +44% from 19878 to 28600 it is right now.

Of course almost 75% of those gains came in Trump's first year, when Obama budget still had influence over the economic conditions. In all of 2018, 2019, and the first 10 months of 2020, the DJIA is only +10% total, or about 3% per year.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI/history/ for anyone who wants to double check my math.

You are using data without anything behind it. The experts you are listening to aren't giving the entire story.

Obama took over the presidency after the Dow decline because of the subprime mortgage fiasco which cause a world-wide recession. It took over 5 years just to get the Dow back to the level when the whole subprime disaster started the Dow in a downward spiral. Obama took 60 billion a month and pumped it into the market along the way and it still took 5 years. The recovery from a recession under Obama was the slowest since ww2. Obama took over at the Dow's rock bottom and it was gonna go up no matter who was in the WH. There is no Obama policy you can name that had a positive impact on the market.

All the "experts" told us the Dow would crash if Trump was elected. Sell sell sell they shouted. It didn't of course. Unlike Obama's snail-like recovery, Trump actually made policies to warrant credit for the increase in the market. He cut loads of regulations, ridiculous regulations, that were stifling businesses. He lowered taxes and lowered corporate taxes which had the US at the highest rate for industrialized countries. Pretty simple stuff and it worked. The experts were wrong again and Trump was right.

Lastly, I have been hearing the dem's talking points last few weeks. This may be the dumbest yet but there's still time before the election. They are claiming that Trump will be the first president in history to to have negative job growth after his first term. They actually tried making that point in the Washington Compost. How dumb do they think people are? There is a world-wide pandemic where leaders from all over the world (except Sweden) decided it was a good idea to close shop for several months. Ya that might have something to do with it. Before the Chinese virus, everything was better under Trump. Unemployment at record lows for Black, for Hispanics, lowest in 50 years for women, more people working than any other time in history, millions off food stamps, New trade deals, energy independence, Border security. No new wars, ripped up bad deals with terrorist nations, pulled out on the Paris accord not allowing America to be the world's credit card, defeated the ISIS caliphate, no more missiles from N Korea and no more sucking China's cocck and so on. Trump did things other politics only talked about.

Believe the fake news all you want or accept the truth

[DwightShrute]

I think you are right. I think DJUA was around 22,000 on Trump's inaugeration.

[JohnGalt2341]

This is ridiculous. This is what I saw when I bet on Carrie Underwood. The line made no sense, but it kept going up. With a fair media, Trump is -30000 right now. Biden sold influence to Ukraine and CHINA. CHINA. The same country that has killed 215k Americans and wrecked our economy. Biden is a disgrace and should be in jail. The media has sold out so bad talking about how Trump is bad they have no fallback position. Total disaster for the swamp. Trump is going to win in a landslide.

What would you say Trump's line for the Popular Vote should be... assuming we had a fair media?

[BigPapi]

Currently my book has me cut off from betting any more on Trump. I'd guess they are getting one sided action and getting nervous. What idiot is Betting Biden -215

[vitterd]

Currently my book has me cut off from betting any more on Trump. I'd guess they are getting one sided action and getting nervous. What idiot is Betting Biden -215

Nobody believes you

[BigPapi]

That is OK. I believe in me.

[vitterd]

That is OK. I believe in me.

Look at it this way......when trump loses....you really will only lose this current name you’re using and not real money.

[BigPapi]

Great analysis. I joined this website 15 years ago though.

[BigPapi]

Talking about American Idol bets with Green Doberman was more fun, but this will do.

[vitterd]

Great analysis. I joined this website 15 years ago though.

At an average of 2 posts a years, one would think they would be really smart posts.

[BigPapi]

I'll try harder, thank you for your honest feedback

[TommieGunshot]

You are using data without anything behind it.

You are absolutely correct that I am only looking at the data, without putting any spin behind it at all. The one thing we can do is go back even further and look at the numbers for R presidents Bush, Bush, and Reagan, and also D presidents Clinton and Carter. Do you want to do that? Would you be able to handle it, without putting any spin on it?

The experts you are listening to aren't giving the entire story.

I am not listening to any "experts" at all. As soon as we start doing that, everyone stops paying attention to the data and only cares about sticking up for the party they like. Which you proved so well.

[BigPapi]

One thing wasting time on forums taught me, an honest lesson is it is very very hard to get under my skin and annoy me and get me to flip out and go on tilt. It's possible, but I have given so much and taken so much on sports forums that the one good thing from it is in real life I do not get riled up easy. Or online. From those of you who were on TheRX.com or EOG I was Mr. Smith there. Go Noles.

[DwightShrute]

You are absolutely correct that I am only looking at the data, without putting any spin behind it at all. The one thing we can do is go back even further and look at the numbers for R presidents Bush, Bush, and Reagan, and also D presidents Clinton and Carter. Do you want to do that? Would you be able to handle it, without putting any spin on it?



I am not listening to any "experts" at all. As soon as we start doing that, everyone stops paying attention to the data and only cares about sticking up for the party they like. Which you proved so well.

If you look at the box score and see Seahawks lost to the Jets 43-10, do you just assume that the Jets are a great team? Better than the Seahawks? And just go on with your day? Or do you click on espn.com and check for the story as to what happened? If the story showed that Russel Wilson was injured during warn-ups and the back up was knocked out of the game in the first minute due to an leg injury and Metcalf and Carson colluded 2 plays later and both were injured and never returned, wouldn't you be better off knowing what happened rather than just seeing the final score?

So the choice is your. Believe the stats (data) or do a little digging as to why it happened. The full story. The one I provided above.

[vitterd]

If you look at the box score and see Seahawks lost to the Jets 43-10, do you just assume that the Jets are a great team? Better than the Seahawks? And just go on with your day? Or do you click on espn.com and check for the story as to what happened? If the story showed that Russel Wilson was injured during warn-ups and the back up was knocked out of the game in the first minute due to an leg injury and Metcalf and Carson colluded 2 plays later and both were injured and never returned, wouldn't you be better off knowing what happened rather than just seeing the final score?

So the choice is your. Believe the stats (data) or do a little digging as to why it happened. The full story. The one I provided above.

Gump was smarter than you. I can’t believe you actually post this stupid shit. This is why your parents hate you.

[TommieGunshot]

If you look at the box score and see Seahawks lost to the Jets 43-10, do you just assume that the Jets are a great team? Better than the Seahawks?

This is a good point you bring up. It is why when looking at presidential records I look at four to eight years worth of data, not just one week. Consider the scenario of one NFL team averaging 10 wins per year over a few years and another team averaging 4. We wouldn’t have to look too deeply to know which one had more success. If it was 10 wins to 9, we should take a deeper look. But only with an open mind. In matters of politics, you and most others have already decided that your side is good and the other side is bad no matter what information you see. That’s not “a little digging”, as you claim, it’s mental gymnastics.

[jjgold]

Political experts have Trump winning fairly easy

[vitterd]

Political experts have Trump winning fairly easy

Dwight is not a political expert.....he’s barely a functional person.

[ABEHONEST]

If you look at the box score and see Seahawks lost to the Jets 43-10, do you just assume that the Jets are a great team? Better than the Seahawks? And just go on with your day? Or do you click on espn.com and check for the story as to what happened? If the story showed that Russel Wilson was injured during warn-ups and the back up was knocked out of the game in the first minute due to an leg injury and Metcalf and Carson colluded 2 plays later and both were injured and never returned, wouldn't you be better off knowing what happened rather than just seeing the final score?

So the choice is your. Believe the stats (data) or do a little digging as to why it happened. The full story. The one I provided above.

Has ever a once, popular, young, cute, clever actor, went so fast down the **ithole?
Wow! That's all I have to say.