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  • Seaweed
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    • 01-19-12
    • 26318

    #1
    How Did People Research Bets Before 1996?
    Before Internet???

    Now we take for granted we can research everything up to minute with expert opinions

    Did more people lose before??
  • mjsuax13
    Moderator
    • 03-14-15
    • 25131

    #2
    Originally posted by Seaweed
    Before Internet???

    Now we take for granted we can research everything up to minute with expert opinions

    Did more people lose before??
    I think they won more often because they bet what they knew a little bit about over everyone throwing darts at every sport.
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    • Buckandadime
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-21-15
      • 8847

      #3
      Originally posted by mjsuax13
      I think they won more often because they bet what they knew a little bit about over everyone throwing darts at every sport.
      What he said
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #4
        We did our own research, kept our own records, and figured out which part of the box score was relevant and how to manipulate it.

        There may not have been an internet, but there were computers.

        We stood on the shoulders of giants and then became those giants.

        The internet made it both easier and harder.

        The early days of internet gambling were a wild west of shot taking as the online books hadn't quite figured it all out yet and the players were light years ahead of them.

        Especially when it came to things like correlated parlays and the way they would let us parlay games and use bonuses. Oh the mistakes the books would make would just make your mouth water.

        That doesn't happen anymore though.

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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #5
          I could go on and on and on Mr. Weed.

          Some things still haven't changed, sort of.
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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #6
            Mr. Weed, reading my writings and making use of them means you can stand on the shoulders of a giant.

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            • lakerboy
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-02-09
              • 94379

              #7
              I might be wrong but it seems like In today's sports no lead is safe.
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              • Seaweed
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                • 01-19-12
                • 26318

                #8
                Originally posted by KVB
                Mr. Weed, reading my writings and making use of them means you can stand on the shoulders of a giant.

                KVB, you are wise. I wish i could sit with you on a park bench and hear more
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                • Seaweed
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                  • 01-19-12
                  • 26318

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                  I might be wrong but it seems like In today's sports no lead is safe.
                  I agree

                  Especially in NBA
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                  • mjsuax13
                    Moderator
                    • 03-14-15
                    • 25131

                    #10
                    Originally posted by KVB
                    We did our own research, kept our own records, and figured out which part of the box score was relevant and how to manipulate it.

                    There may not have been an internet, but there were computers.

                    We stood on the shoulders of giants and then became those giants.

                    The internet made it both easier and harder.

                    The early days of internet gambling were a wild west of shot taking as the online books hadn't quite figured it all out yet and the players were light years ahead of them.

                    Especially when it came to things like correlated parlays and the way they would let us parlay games and use bonuses. Oh the mistakes the books would make would just make your mouth water.

                    That doesn't happen anymore though.

                    Good stuff.
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                      I might be wrong but it seems like In today's sports no lead is safe.
                      Originally posted by Seaweed

                      I agree

                      Especially in NBA
                      Ain't that the truth.

                      And the NBA has most certainly got more volatile, as has every sport. Records are more extreme, it's the nature of time.

                      A big part of that had to do with the preparation of and execution of LIVE betting.

                      Make no mistake.
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                      • KVB
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 05-29-14
                        • 74817

                        #12
                        You used to be able to parlay Bama -36 and Over 42 or something similar.

                        Not anymore.
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                        • Mike Huntertz
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-19-09
                          • 11207

                          #13
                          For most it's still, flip a coin!
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                          • Buckandadime
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 04-21-15
                            • 8847

                            #14
                            Originally posted by KVB
                            We did our own research, kept our own records, and figured out which part of the box score was relevant and how to manipulate it.

                            There may not have been an internet, but there were computers.

                            We stood on the shoulders of giants and then became those giants.

                            The internet made it both easier and harder.

                            The early days of internet gambling were a wild west of shot taking as the online books hadn't quite figured it all out yet and the players were light years ahead of them.

                            Especially when it came to things like correlated parlays and the way they would let us parlay games and use bonuses. Oh the mistakes the books would make would just make your mouth water.

                            That doesn't happen anymore though.

                            I did everything pen to paper back then..
                            Still do for the most part..
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                            • BeatTheJerk
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                              • 08-19-07
                              • 31794

                              #15
                              Originally posted by KVB
                              I could go on and on and on Mr. Weed.

                              Some things still haven't changed, sort of.
                              I swear you should write a fuckin’ sports gambling novel. You are always filled with interesting knowledge/experiences & you know your markets/numbers to boot
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                I did everything pen to paper back then..
                                Still do for the most part..


                                Wire notebooks with black, blue, red, pink and green pens. The red, pink and green are a super fine tip so I could make all kinds of notes and marks. I developed my own language...lol.

                                Then I added the orange and green highlighters.

                                Converting those books into spreadsheets is something that is still going on today.

                                I feel I've been underachieving and have two spiral bounds sitting on my desk, just waiting for NCAAF and NFL, but now I'm behind on filling them.

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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #17
                                  To be honest, it took the CFL and WNBA and their limited number of teams that first got me converting those books to the computer.
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                                  • Buckandadime
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 04-21-15
                                    • 8847

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by KVB


                                    Wire notebooks with black, blue, red, pink and green pens. The red, pink and green are a super fine tip so I could make all kinds of notes and marks. I developed my own language...lol.

                                    Then I added the orange and green highlighters.

                                    Converting those books into spreadsheets is something that is still going on today.

                                    I feel I've been underachieving and have two spiral bounds sitting on my desk, just waiting for NCAAF and NFL, but now I'm behind on filling them.

                                    Yep..
                                    I think we all develop our own language just to save time..
                                    Got away from the highlighters just because when they would go dry I didn't have any back ups..
                                    Like you I still have notebooks to go through and transfer what is circled or deemed important..
                                    Most everything looks like a 5th graders doodles...
                                    Not enough hours in the day..
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                                    • Foxx
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 05-25-11
                                      • 5832

                                      #19
                                      I had a closet full of racing programs from Philadelphia Park. Every live program for like 4 years. Must have had 1000+.

                                      Huge fire hazard.
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        Newsletters, magazines and what KVB did

                                        THe old fashioned way to handicap
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                                        • Sam Odom
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-30-05
                                          • 58063

                                          #21
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                                          • Easy-Rider 66
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                                            • 02-14-12
                                            • 36756

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                            the ole Gold sheet. remember buying at the news stand back in the day. some good info at times.
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                                            • The General
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 13279

                                              #23
                                              Newspapers on a kitchen table.
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                                              • pologq
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 10-07-12
                                                • 19899

                                                #24
                                                all interesting posts. sounds kind of fun to do that research, more involved and you appreciate it more.
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                                                • KVB
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                  • 74817

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by The General
                                                  Newspapers on a kitchen table.
                                                  I used to cut out the lines and results from the back page of the sports section. I would even use colored pens on the newspaper, the ink would bleed on the paper. Using the notebooks was like a jump in technology.

                                                  Hence the insistence on the finest point pens avaliable.

                                                  Good times.
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                                                  • hubie69
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-16-10
                                                    • 7329

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                                    We did our own research, kept our own records, and figured out which part of the box score was relevant and how to manipulate it.

                                                    There may not have been an internet, but there were computers.

                                                    We stood on the shoulders of giants and then became those giants.

                                                    The internet made it both easier and harder.

                                                    The early days of internet gambling were a wild west of shot taking as the online books hadn't quite figured it all out yet and the players were light years ahead of them.

                                                    Especially when it came to things like correlated parlays and the way they would let us parlay games and use bonuses. Oh the mistakes the books would make would just make your mouth water.

                                                    That doesn't happen anymore though.

                                                    This
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                                                    • sweethook
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-21-07
                                                      • 12667

                                                      #27
                                                      in the 70s everyone just bet there local teams with a local bookmaker he would get rich . i was sitting between atlanta and washinton . there was no carolina team
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                                                      • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 11-30-08
                                                        • 81450

                                                        #28
                                                        Reading newspaper at bowling alley
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                                                        • The General
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 13279

                                                          #29
                                                          I had to keep weeks of sports pages so that I could go back and see past matchups. The scores were never in any sort of order but random and there was no CTRL F.
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                                                          • johnnyvegas13
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 05-21-15
                                                            • 27897

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by sweethook
                                                            in the 70s everyone just bet there local teams with a local bookmaker he would get rich . i was sitting between atlanta and washinton . there was no carolina team
                                                            It does seem from movies and stuff that betting the local teams was a bigger deal
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                                                            • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 11-30-08
                                                              • 81450

                                                              #31
                                                              Anybody else used to keep these little memo books in your pocket, with all of your day’s action written in them so you could check your bets on the go?

                                                              I’m sure I still have a box of these stored somewhere in the house.

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                                                              • KVB
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 05-29-14
                                                                • 74817

                                                                #32
                                                                Yes, but locals always shaded the line on the local team. Shit, local would shade the line if they knew what you were looking.

                                                                I never asked, "hey, what's the line on the Steelers?" or he would add 1/2 point or more to Steelers. Always said "hey what's the line on the Browns/Steelers game."

                                                                You had to know how to talk to locals all over the place. Sometimes get them to add a half point to the Steelers then you bet it the other way.

                                                                That always pissed them off.

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                                                                • compaqDikk
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 10-08-05
                                                                  • 5699

                                                                  #33
                                                                  you had to dupe mid major athletic director, SIDs and Athletic Trainers into giving injury info
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                                                                  • Buckandadime
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 04-21-15
                                                                    • 8847

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                                                    I used to cut out the lines and results from the back page of the sports section. I would even use colored pens on the newspaper, the ink would bleed on the paper. Using the notebooks was like a jump in technology.

                                                                    Hence the insistence on the finest point pens avaliable.

                                                                    Good times.

                                                                    The Sporting News was my friend..
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #35
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