Caesars palace owner takes over William hill

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  • dark star
    SBR MVP
    • 01-04-09
    • 3900

    #36
    Originally posted by jjgold
    Only relevant Books USA Draftkings and Fandual

    Most others little business


    UM,,,,,Try MGM
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    • MinnesotaFats
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-18-10
      • 14758

      #37
      So weird

      Half the point of the El Dorado acquisition was to out source the book to Hill....

      This story been verified yet?
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      • Roger T. Bannon
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 06-28-18
        • 5139

        #38
        Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
        So weird

        Half the point of the El Dorado acquisition was to out source the book to Hill....

        This story been verified yet?
        They wanted to get out of the stone age and get online so you get William Hill to do that but that only gets you to the on deck circle. To get in the game and take a swing, you need to own William Hill altogether. They are now one of the major players in the market. Before they were trying to figure out how to operate a sportsbook online.
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        • The General
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-10-05
          • 13279

          #39
          Caesars will dominate this industry.
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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #40
            Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
            So weird

            Half the point of the El Dorado acquisition was to out source the book to Hill....

            This story been verified yet?
            Well then the next step in the process should be obvious Minny.

            I thought we went over this.
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            • Roger T. Bannon
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-28-18
              • 5139

              #41
              Originally posted by The General
              Caesars will dominate this industry.
              Not likely. They are playing from behind and William Hill does not offer what it takes to dominate the industry.They will have to buy out somebody else to dominate which they may do. They will not do it on their own.
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              • Judge Crater
                SBR MVP
                • 10-05-20
                • 2024

                #42
                Cannot get any worse
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                • mjsuax13
                  Moderator
                  • 03-14-15
                  • 25062

                  #43
                  William Hill owes me $5k and is stalling.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #44
                    Caesars ok

                    Privately run
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                    • deltgen
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 12-31-10
                      • 865

                      #45
                      Originally posted by The General
                      Like I've said though, 90% will buy at any price for action. Makes no difference.
                      The General is on the money here. We're still in the nascent stage of legal (near) nationwide gambling in the US, but if folks like JJ Gold are right and everyone is going to make us pay -115 or even -120 juice instead of the standard -110, we will indeed buy the action in order to avoid jumping through all the hoops of offshore shops. I will grant that my wagers are absolutely recreational, i.e. small potatoes, but at what dollar amount is someone considered big-time? It's a ways up there, and all of us below that threshhold will indeed pay a bit more in order to feel more secure about our elusive payouts.
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #46
                        Caesars as far as Pennsylvania has the best money lines meaning the Tightest money lines

                        It’s in house book not run out of Europe Not live betting on everything just big stuff, More of a traditional Las Vegas book
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                        • The General
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 13279

                          #47
                          Bettors come in lay 15 or 20k whatever price. You'd think these guys would want the best price, but not so.
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                          • The General
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 13279

                            #48
                            Pricing will become very competitive as this baby grows. These corporate ppl don't know what to do yet, but as ppl like me grow into legal mgmt roles, things will change. These corporate ppl really don't know how this chit work in the small towns where legalization is taking place.
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #49
                              Will be interesting what happens the next three years if these books start to tighten juice
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                              • The General
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 13279

                                #50
                                Gold, I'm not talking down on the corporate ppl. I understand where they are, but they were learning how to do a photo shoot with a a slot winner when me and you and walker and Weitzner were taking on the offshore sportsbook elite. It's just true.
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                                • loser711
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 06-20-19
                                  • 108

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by StackinGreen
                                  How many different lines are there even now in Vegas, once this transformation takes place? 2?
                                  I can think of 4, I think, ha. Vaccaro at SouthPoint, WestGate, Circa, and Caesars. I don't think Station Books are hooked in with any I listed.

                                  Above I have accounts with, also MGM. That is 6, I leave anybody out?
                                  Last edited by loser711; 10-08-20, 11:47 PM.
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                                  • The General
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-10-05
                                    • 13279

                                    #52
                                    I'm part of the communication chain with Caesars and the plans aren't nothing to ignore. It's going to be a fun ride. I hope I'm part of it for a long time. Hopefully, in Casino sportsbooks are here to stay. (?). Online betting is the chit already.
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                                    • rm18
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-20-05
                                      • 22291

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by loser711
                                      I can think of 4, I think, ha. Vaccaro at SouthPoint, WestGate, Circa, and Caesars. I don't think Station Books are hooked in with any I listed.

                                      Above I have accounts with, also MGM. That is 6, I leave anybody out?
                                      Treasure Island, Cantor, Golden Nugget
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                                      • rm18
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-20-05
                                        • 22291

                                        #54
                                        Will Hill was a bubble gum book that banned everyone, it was a bad look had to but them out.
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #55
                                          Caesars has dime lines up to 160 I believe in the USA

                                          Most of those other books can’t touch that
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                                          • Snowball
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 11-15-09
                                            • 30047

                                            #56
                                            This is a win for bettors because Caesars has the largesse Hill never did.

                                            Whales will feel more comfortable and the action will be steamier.
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #57
                                              Caesars baseball lines

                                              -160/150

                                              Rest of USA Books
                                              -165/137
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                                              • loser711
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 06-20-19
                                                • 108

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by rm18
                                                Treasure Island, Cantor, Golden Nugget
                                                Cantor bought out by William Hill months ago.
                                                Well at least part, I had an account w the Palms /CG,
                                                William Hill acquired.
                                                Last edited by loser711; 10-09-20, 10:05 AM.
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                                                • DrunkHorseplayer
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 05-15-10
                                                  • 7719

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by loser711
                                                  I can think of 4, I think, ha. Vaccaro at SouthPoint, WestGate, Circa, and Caesars. I don't think Station Books are hooked in with any I listed.

                                                  Above I have accounts with, also MGM. That is 6, I leave anybody out?
                                                  Boyd Gaming.
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                                                  • rm18
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-20-05
                                                    • 22291

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by loser711
                                                    Cantor bought out by William Hill months ago.
                                                    Well at least part, I had an account w the Palms /CG,
                                                    William Hill acquired.
                                                    Venetian still cantor?
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                                                    • StackinGreen
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-09-10
                                                      • 12140

                                                      #61
                                                      Will William Hill lines replace Caesars soon? Anyone know how long? Will it be the whole betting menu, straights, RR, parlays, sweetheart teasers? I'm wondering more on the sweetheart football teasers, which WHill offers 3 team 10 and 4 team 14...
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                                                      • DrunkHorseplayer
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 05-15-10
                                                        • 7719

                                                        #62
                                                        Already done; all the sportsbooks in Caesars casinos are now WillHill.
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                                                        • StackinGreen
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-09-10
                                                          • 12140

                                                          #63
                                                          Thanks Horsey
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                                                          • stevenash
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 01-17-11
                                                            • 65412

                                                            #64
                                                            Icahn didn't become a billionaire by accident.
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                                                            • StackinGreen
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-09-10
                                                              • 12140

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                                              Already done; all the sportsbooks in Caesars casinos are now WillHill.
                                                              I haven't seen this in Caesar's casinos outside of Vegas though. For example, that one by chicago (Indiana?) I think it's called horseshoe doesn't have William Hill lines or kiosks.
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                                                              • jjgold
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-20-05
                                                                • 388179

                                                                #66
                                                                Caesars terrible
                                                                Low
                                                                Limits

                                                                Baseball juice ok though
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