Tennessee/Denver live in games Thread

ThaTopMoron · 09-15-20, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by Eddy Munny

Out of all the misses, why the PAT? Smh

why did they audible out of a Henry run on 3rd and 1? even if Tanneloser thinks a run blitz is coming just hand it off and let the big guy drag them for a yard. timeout... go for the TD then

BigDofBA · 09-15-20, 12:28 AM

Lock missed a wide open TE on the goal line on the first half.

Then he over threw a wide open WR for a TD late in the 4th.

The Titans missed three FGs and an extra point and still won. Thats how bad Denver is coached.

Cardsfan55 · 09-15-20, 12:28 AM

Are sports legit rigged? Shocked.....

JoeCool20 · 09-15-20, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by Eddy Munny

And the Broncos should have been calling timeouts to preserve time for their final drive.

Had they done that, Titans would've gotten in more plays and might've gotten a TD.

I would fire the guy immediately. He didn't use his timeouts! I've never seen that in my life!

sackdud · 09-15-20, 12:30 AM

Originally posted by CMNoney

Drew Lock is absolutely horrific. Game over if he was actually accurate.

yep secure pocket, plenty of time. reciever open by 5 yeards and overthrows him by 10 feet

guy is garbage

ThaTopMoron · 09-15-20, 12:30 AM

Originally posted by Eddy Munny

And the Broncos should have been calling timeouts to preserve time for their final drive.

Had they done that, Titans would've gotten in more plays and might've gotten a TD.

they still easily had a couple shots for a TD if Henry converts the 3rd and 1. they had 2 timeouts to use.

no reason to audible to a pass and throw ANYTHING

cincinnatikid513 · 09-15-20, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by JoeCool20

I would fire the guy immediately. He didn't use his timeouts! I've never seen that in my life!

hoodie didn't call a timeout in the superbowl, let the clock run down and what happened malcom butler int

Inspirited · 09-15-20, 12:31 AM

could have at least made that extra point. thanks for the loss kicker.

ThaTopMoron · 09-15-20, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by Cardsfan55

Are sports legit rigged? Shocked.....

2nd MNF game of night after first favorite covered and final game of week 1....

it's always some fishy sort of crap going on

JoeCool20 · 09-15-20, 12:32 AM

And the titans coach used a timeout himself to run a play to cover the spread and tankyhill overthrew the guy!

NardVa · 09-15-20, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by Orbison

in some fairness to Fangio, Jeudy dropped the 1st down slant which he could've possibly scored on and the 3rd down deep ball wasn't Lock's first read

It's called preparation. If you practice the plays and scenarios enough you don't choke in all the big moments. Denver fell apart on offense and defense when it mattered the most. Teams with good coaching will make those plays.

ThaTopMoron · 09-15-20, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by JoeCool20

And the titans coach used a timeout himself to run a play to cover the spread and tankyhill overthrew the guy!

QB audibled to that play after looking at the defense... does he not know what his rb Henry is capable of?

this is why the titans won't win SHIT

JayLA · 09-15-20, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by ThaTopMoron

2nd MNF game of night after first favorite covered and final game of week 1....

it's always some fishy sort of crap going on

You guys are always crying conspiracy. Too many factors to be so certain it was refs fault.

Lock puts a little less arm into that pass and Denver wins...shit happens...I cant believe I still bet on this shit

BigDofBA · 09-15-20, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by JayLA

I cant believe I still bet on this shit

That pretty much sums it up.

It’s like flipping a coin and losing juice every other game.

Eddy Munny · 09-15-20, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by ThaTopMoron

they still easily had a couple shots for a TD if Henry converts the 3rd and 1. they had 2 timeouts to use.

no reason to audible to a pass and throw ANYTHING

I get what you're saying but I was actually glad they took a shot at the end zone, being that was Tenn's best shot to cover the spread. The play was there for the taking, Tannehill just sailed it a tad. I think had they ran the ball and picked up the first down, the Titans would have been content to run the clock down and kick the field goal. Maybe they run the ball once more against a stacked line but it's likely going to end up a FG attempt unless Henry gets in. The fact that the Broncos inexplicably ate their timeouts kinda fukked the sequence in terms of getting a Tenn cover.

JoeCool20 · 09-15-20, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

hoodie didn't call a timeout in the superbowl, let the clock run down and what happened malcom butler int

I'm a Gawja guy. Let's don't talk about Super bowls. If ATL runs the ball 3 times after Julio's great catch, then Matt Bryant gets to walk off his great career with a bunny field goal and we win the super bowl... AND Julio's catch goes down as one of the best in history. Instead we lose the whole damn game and you won't ever hardly see his beautiful catch.

sackdud · 09-15-20, 12:40 AM

vangio walks away with 2 timeouts

thats at least 60 seconds

if he played it right they would have gotten the ball back with 1:17 and 1 timeout

ThaTopMoron · 09-15-20, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by JayLA

You guys are always crying conspiracy. Too many factors to be so certain it was refs fault.

Lock puts a little less arm into that pass and Denver wins...shit happens...I cant believe I still bet on this shit

i hit a live under 39.5 bet with -101 juice

you can't tell me audibling to a pass on a 3rd and 1 when you have timeouts left and time to score a td and HENRY at RB is a logical decision

then the pass.... even worse

NardVa · 09-15-20, 12:44 AM

Vic Fangio is in over his head. The reason it took him more than 30 years in the NFL to make head coach is because he doesn't have it. This guy needs to go back down to a position coach.

sackdud · 09-15-20, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by sackdud

vangio walks away with 2 timeouts

thats at least 60 seconds

if he played it right they would have gotten the ball back with 1:17 and 1 timeout

plus a timeout gives his D a chance to rest

JoeCool20 · 09-15-20, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by sackdud

vangio walks away with 2 timeouts

thats at least 60 seconds

if he played it right they would have gotten the ball back with 1:17 and 1 timeout

I have never seen anything like that in my life in pro football.

How will he explain that in the press conference?

hehfest · 09-15-20, 12:48 AM

I really think Fangio played it right. I know it sounds crazy. Look. If he takes his timeouts Tennessee scores a TD probably. By him not taking them, he was forcing the Ghost to make the kick. Even though it was closer.....he obviously has been rattled. Don't forget that they BLOCKED a kick earlier in the game too. He did it right. Maybe if he had 15 extra seconds for McManus to attempt a long field goal.

He really probably thought the best chance was Ghost missing. Otherwise, they need a TD to win with NO TIME (Under a minute left).

Fangio really played it the only way he could with what he had on the table IMO

JayLA · 09-15-20, 12:48 AM

Him not taking timeouts was his read on how titans couldn't score. You still take em to give your offense more time

Not sure what he was thinking

hehfest · 09-15-20, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by JayLA

You guys are always crying conspiracy. Too many factors to be so certain it was refs fault.

Lock puts a little less arm into that pass and Denver wins...shit happens...I cant believe I still bet on this shit

Imagine someone that had Vegas Knights tonite. Probably figured with less than 10 minutes left they win easy. Sometimes that stuff happens. I wonder if VEGAS DAVE had the Knights...........and gave it out too.

JoeCool20 · 09-15-20, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by hehfest

I really think Fangio played it right. I know it sounds crazy. Look. If he takes his timeouts Tennessee scores a TD probably. By him not taking them, he was forcing the Ghost to make the kick. Even though it was closer.....he obviously has been rattled. Don't forget that they BLOCKED a kick earlier in the game too. He did it right. Maybe if he had 15 extra seconds for McManus to attempt a long field goal.

He really probably thought the best chance was Ghost missing. Otherwise, they need a TD to win with NO TIME (Under a minute left).

Fangio really played it the only way he could with what he had on the table IMO

Hey man GREAT "other side" comment! But I have to say no to that. Because this is pro football,

if he calls his timeouts, then the other guy runs it right up the middle. And even if he tries a TD play

your pro defense gets a chance to intercept it! NO WAY is the ball going in the air if he uses his TO's!

Not in the pros!

Orbison · 09-15-20, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by NardVa

It's called preparation. If you practice the plays and scenarios enough you don't choke in all the big moments. Denver fell apart on offense and defense when it mattered the most. Teams with good coaching will make those plays.

Jeudy dropped the 1st down pass which would've likely sealed the game, you can't blame that on Fangio. Titans defense was expecting 3 straight vanilla running plays on that sequence and their DB's weren't anywhere near the LOS on 1st down. i liked the aggressive yet relatively safe playcalling there, he just simply dropped the ball.

Fangio's main mistake was on the 4th down playcall in the 1H and arguably not using timeouts at the end of the game. keep in mind though that if Fangio did call TO's at the end of the game, the Titans might've scored a TD instead.

sackdud · 09-15-20, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by hehfest

I really think Fangio played it right. I know it sounds crazy. Look. If he takes his timeouts Tennessee scores a TD probably. By him not taking them, he was forcing the Ghost to make the kick. Even though it was closer.....he obviously has been rattled. Don't forget that they BLOCKED a kick earlier in the game too. He did it right. Maybe if he had 15 extra seconds for McManus to attempt a long field goal.

He really probably thought the best chance was Ghost missing. Otherwise, they need a TD to win with NO TIME (Under a minute left).

Fangio really played it the only way he could with what he had on the table IMO

no he didnt. you make TEnn lose possession as fast as possible. whether its a FG or a TD you need 1;30 left for lock, and most likely if he calls timeouts the D rests and TENN does not take any chances to the endzone, too risky

then you are getting the ball back with a decent amount of time left and 1 timeout

hehfest · 09-15-20, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by JayLA

Him not taking timeouts was his read on how titans couldn't score. You still take em to give your offense more time

Not sure what he was thinking

My point is is if he does take them then he is giving Titans more likely chance to punch it in the end zone. It affected Vrabel's play calling because now he has to think FG with time ticking away. So, he would've been left with no timeouts and if Titans got another first down........then they can run the clock out anyway as well. At least, this way I think he was hoping for a longer kick from Ghost to attempt. Then, they gave up more yards.

Like I said, he was in a tough spot and situation. You really aren't looking at the game in detail about this. If Titans have more time to punch it in then he's left having to score a TD with no TO's. He put it on GHOST to make the kick. Can't fault him in this situation.

I understand why he did what he did.

Eddy Munny · 09-15-20, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by hehfest

I really think Fangio played it right. I know it sounds crazy. Look. If he takes his timeouts Tennessee scores a TD probably. By him not taking them, he was forcing the Ghost to make the kick. Even though it was closer.....he obviously has been rattled. Don't forget that they BLOCKED a kick earlier in the game too. He did it right. Maybe if he had 15 extra seconds for McManus to attempt a long field goal.

He really probably thought the best chance was Ghost missing. Otherwise, they need a TD to win with NO TIME (Under a minute left).

Fangio really played it the only way he could with what he had on the table IMO

If the Titans score a touchdown, so be it... But I'd rather take my chances with a minute and change to score a touchdown in response, than 17 seconds to score a field goal. And in the event the Titans don't score a touchdown but settle for FG, getting the ball back with over a minute and only needing three for the win is gravy, compared to what actually happened.

I mean the Titans were so deep in DEN territory you have to assume Gostkowski hits a gimme.

sackdud · 09-15-20, 12:55 AM

if he thinks hes going to miss the kick you still make him attempt it at 1;30 instead of :17

he was a deer in the headlights and had no clue what to do

JoeCool20 · 09-15-20, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by Orbison

Jeudy dropped the 1st down pass which would've likely sealed the game, you can't blame that on Fangio. Titans defense was expecting 3 straight vanilla running plays on that sequence and their DB's weren't anywhere near the LOS on 1st down. i liked the aggressive yet relatively safe playcalling there, he just simply dropped the ball.

Fangio's main mistake was on the 4th down playcall in the 1H and arguably not using timeouts at the end of the game. keep in mind though that if Fangio did call TO's at the end of the game, the Titans might've scored a TD instead.

OMG Jeudy from Alabama costing a pro game win and D-Swift from UGA costing the Lions a pro game win!!

hehfest · 09-15-20, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by sackdud

no he didnt. you make TEnn lose possession as fast as possible. whether its a FG or a TD you need 1;30 left for lock, and most likely if he calls timeouts the D rests and TENN does not take any chances to the endzone, too risky

then you are getting the ball back with a decent amount of time left and 1 timeout

Timeouts don't help either side rest any more than the other. They both are 100% effort and running around. Don't see how that helps them more than Tenn. To's CAN stop momentum sometimes and help with play calling. But even then, they can second guess and be wrong. Like I said, watch it all over again and see what I mean. He was in a pickle. Without a doubt. So, he forced Ghost to kick.

You are assuming they will stop the Titans by him taking a timeout(s). What makes you think they stop them? Titans were still passing down there and almost scored on one.

JoeCool20 · 09-15-20, 12:58 AM

Denver coach is now on interview trying to explain his non timeout fiasco!!

hehfest · 09-15-20, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by JoeCool20

Denver coach is now on interview trying to explain his non timeout fiasco!!

channel?

NardVa · 09-15-20, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by hehfest

I really think Fangio played it right. I know it sounds crazy. Look. If he takes his timeouts Tennessee scores a TD probably. By him not taking them, he was forcing the Ghost to make the kick. Even though it was closer.....he obviously has been rattled. Don't forget that they BLOCKED a kick earlier in the game too. He did it right. Maybe if he had 15 extra seconds for McManus to attempt a long field goal.

He really probably thought the best chance was Ghost missing. Otherwise, they need a TD to win with NO TIME (Under a minute left).

Fangio really played it the only way he could with what he had on the table IMO

If he was counting on a blocked or missed kicked at such close range (which is rare) then he is dumber than what I thought. Praying to the football gods is not what I consider smart coaching.