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  • ThaWoj
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 03-09-10
    • 6741

    #211
    Originally posted by KVB
    Heritage is one.

    BOL does too but watch the fine print..."Note: All Open Parlays must be closed within 7 days upon entering. Anything afterwards will be deleted."

    Check the fine print anywhere you go.

    I think at heritage these are called leverage plays? I've had a hard time finding wagers to use for this. For example on 5dimes I could literally use any bet, prop or whatever for an if/rif bet.

    Heritage it seems I can only do the leverage play on a straight bet or a normal parlay.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.
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    • ThaWoj
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 03-09-10
      • 6741

      #212
      They still honoring rewards, anyone know? I need to request cash back tomorrow from my last deposit.
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      • DontTailMe
        SBR MVP
        • 03-24-19
        • 2897

        #213
        Originally posted by hank_kingsley
        You don't seem to be familiar with the legal term "jurisdiction."
        The U.S. doesn't necessarily need jurisdiction. They have lots of ways of influencing other nations to do their bidding, and if the people who run these sites step foot in or hold any assets in the US or cooperating nations, they can put the squeeze on them directly.
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        • Sam Losco
          SBR MVP
          • 12-03-16
          • 3858

          #214
          suck on it you feggit
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          • johnnyvegas13
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            • 05-21-15
            • 27780

            #215
            I’m just gonna give it a day and live chat them again
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            • Ian
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 11-09-09
              • 6020

              #216
              Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
              I’m just gonna give it a day and live chat them again
              Live chat is not showing me anything except my name and account number. I guess they're swamped.
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              • soobv
                SBR Hustler
                • 05-31-16
                • 69

                #217
                I was just told my request for refunds was processed and they will put it in a que to process. Was told there is no eta for getting it processed but to check tomorrow sometime.
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                • hank_kingsley
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 07-08-20
                  • 116

                  #218
                  Originally posted by DontTailMe
                  The U.S. doesn't necessarily need jurisdiction. They have lots of ways of influencing other nations to do their bidding, and if the people who run these sites step foot in or hold any assets in the US or cooperating nations, they can put the squeeze on them directly.
                  Of course they have other ways of trying to influence other nations, but the idea that legal companies in the US will shut down all the offshore sites is absurd.

                  They've been running for 20+ years and they've learned what they need to do in order to operate legally and avoid the long arm of the law. The countries they're based in now rely on the tax revenue and also rely on the jobs it brings so they're not going to give all that up because of a little pressure.

                  If anything, with the US heading toward legalization, it actually decreases the pressure because the US govt will be focusing on enforcement domestically rather than worrying about off-shore books.
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                  • johnnyvegas13
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                    • 05-21-15
                    • 27780

                    #219
                    Originally posted by soobv
                    I was just told my request for refunds was processed and they will put it in a que to process. Was told there is no eta for getting it processed but to check tomorrow sometime.
                    For reals ???
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #220
                      Hank the US Treasury Dept can control the flow of funds around the world.

                      They pinched once, years ago, and hurt everyone. Then there was the Patriot Act.

                      The US let's them operate, period. Never forget that.
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                      • xKMACKx
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-16-08
                        • 1274

                        #221
                        Originally posted by fighttoys
                        I just registered and checked out betanysports.eu and it seems to be the same exact website/format as 5dimes. Had I known I would have just transferred my pending wagers.
                        According to Wizard of Odds, it's a sister site of 5Dimes:

                        "BetAnySports is a full-service online betting site that was established in 2016 and serves as a sister site to VietBet, and 5Dimes, which serves a wide array of regions throughout the globe, including Asia and the United States."

                        Edit: See SBR explanation below
                        Last edited by xKMACKx; 09-07-20, 08:55 PM.
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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #222
                          Originally posted by ThaWoj
                          I think at heritage these are called leverage plays? I've had a hard time finding wagers to use for this. For example on 5dimes I could literally use any bet, prop or whatever for an if/rif bet.

                          Heritage it seems I can only do the leverage play on a straight bet or a normal parlay.

                          Correct me if I'm wrong.
                          No, we're just talking about open parlays.

                          You can create the parlay and leave open spots for a future time. BOL doesn't let them hang more than a week, and that is messed up...lol...but good to be aware of for sure.

                          Heritage does have leverage options, but I'm honestly no expert in those trades. They are definitely different than the open parlay options.
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                          • DontTailMe
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-24-19
                            • 2897

                            #223
                            Originally posted by hank_kingsley
                            Of course they have other ways of trying to influence other nations, but the idea that legal companies in the US will shut down all the offshore sites is absurd.

                            They've been running for 20+ years and they've learned what they need to do in order to operate legally and avoid the long arm of the law. The countries they're based in now rely on the tax revenue and also rely on the jobs it brings so they're not going to give all that up because of a little pressure.

                            If anything, with the US heading toward legalization, it actually decreases the pressure because the US govt will be focusing on enforcement domestically rather than worrying about off-shore books.
                            It won't happen overnight, but as more states legalize sports betting, and the federal/state governments take in more and more tax revenue, you better believe it will happen eventually. The reason these non-tax paying sites have been tolerated for so long is because they were not competing with US business. You shouldn't expect that to continue.
                            Last edited by DontTailMe; 09-07-20, 08:14 PM.
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                            • Brock Landers
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 06-30-08
                              • 45360

                              #224
                              Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                              I’m just gonna give it a day and live chat them again
                              email them at info@5dimes.eu

                              better results
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                              • johnnyvegas13
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 05-21-15
                                • 27780

                                #225
                                Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                email them at info@5dimes.eu

                                better results
                                Thx Brock

                                prob still wait a day and learn more here
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                                • lonegambler23
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-22-16
                                  • 9761

                                  #226
                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                  5Dimes thread? What happened? I have been in the steam room at the country club.

                                  paver more like the local pool boy giving u a handjob while the wifey was out shopping..
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                                  • Hugo de Naranja
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 04-14-16
                                    • 14140

                                    #227
                                    Would be extremely shady for them to freeroll us on NBA/NHL futures that are in progress. I have a bet on Celtics Championship (+3250) that has a bunch of equity over current odds.
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                                    • johnnyvegas13
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 05-21-15
                                      • 27780

                                      #228
                                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                      Would be extremely shady for them to freeroll us on NBA/NHL futures that are in progress. I have a bet on Celtics Championship (+3250) that has a bunch of equity over current odds.
                                      Thankyouuu

                                      alot can happen between now and sept 25

                                      they need to make a ruling on this

                                      give it a day I think they will
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                                      • Sam Odom
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-30-05
                                        • 58063

                                        #229
                                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja


                                        Would be extremely shady for them to freeroll us on NBA/NHL futures that are in progress. I have a bet on Celtics Championship (+3250) that has a bunch of equity over current odds.


                                        "I am god"
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                                        • HedgeHog
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-11-07
                                          • 10128

                                          #230
                                          Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                          "I am god"
                                          Fuk you
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                                          • Sam Odom
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-30-05
                                            • 58063

                                            #231
                                            Hog

                                            Relax

                                            You KNOW 5D was famous for that
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                                            • dxp
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 10-06-18
                                              • 463

                                              #232
                                              "Any customer funds that cannot be delivered by 12am ET on September 30th, 2021 (13 months from now) will be deemed abandoned by the account holder."

                                              so, in other words, they'll never be coming back.
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                                              • SBR Forum
                                                Administrator
                                                • 12-02-06
                                                • 4559

                                                #233
                                                Originally posted by xKMACKx
                                                According to Wizard of Odds, it's a sister site of 5Dimes:

                                                "BetAnySports is a full-service online betting site that was established in 2016 and serves as a sister site to VietBet, and 5Dimes, which serves a wide array of regions throughout the globe, including Asia and the United States."
                                                Actually, that's not accurate. BetAnySports has existed for years and has been in the rating guide since 2008. The part about Asia is true though, that has been the focus along with ChineseBookie and Vietbet, who use a common software platform.
                                                Originally posted by fighttoys
                                                I just registered and checked out betanysports.eu and it seems to be the same exact website/format as 5dimes. Had I known I would have just transferred my pending wagers.
                                                Correct. The lines are the same as software is common, but it's a separately owned operation. A lot of books share software and technology resources, hosting centers, etc. Interesting point about the lines. Do keep us posted of any feedback if you decide to give them a try.

                                                Originally posted by Brock Landers

                                                email them at info@5dimes.eu

                                                better results
                                                Agreed good idea, contact 5Dimes with any concerns. They are dealing with a large volume of queries right now but are available to field questions. Write mail@sportsbookreview.com as well so we can escalate any recurring feedback to 5Dimes management.
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                                                • ThaWoj
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 03-09-10
                                                  • 6741

                                                  #234
                                                  Edit by SBR: Please see the post directly above.

                                                  So is betanysports equally safe and reliable? I see it's rated A-
                                                  Last edited by SBR Forum; 09-07-20, 08:29 PM. Reason: added reply
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                                                  • Wilfred
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 08-19-12
                                                    • 1908

                                                    #235
                                                    Originally posted by Gmen30
                                                    Anybody know other books who offer ROLLING IF-BETS?
                                                    This. Was my favorite thing to do especially with live/half time betting with NFL.
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                                                    • lonegambler23
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-22-16
                                                      • 9761

                                                      #236
                                                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                      Would be extremely shady for them to freeroll us on NBA/NHL futures that are in progress. I have a bet on Celtics Championship (+3250) that has a bunch of equity over current odds.
                                                      dude youre done just take the refund
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                                                      • johnnyvegas13
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 05-21-15
                                                        • 27780

                                                        #237
                                                        Originally posted by lonegambler23
                                                        dude youre done just take the refund
                                                        Has it been confirmed that they r giving refunds on any nba or nhl futures

                                                        I am still unsure ...
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                                                        • kyhawk
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 06-21-08
                                                          • 994

                                                          #238
                                                          Offshore sportsbook 5Dimes will freeze its US operations later this month, telling customers it plans to relaunch with a “fresh start.”
                                                          The Costa Rica-based outfit will stop taking bets from US customers at 12 am ET on September 21.
                                                          By early Monday evening, the following greeted customers in the US trying to log into the site:
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                                                          • TheGuesser
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-10-05
                                                            • 2714

                                                            #239
                                                            They will allow you to transfer everything, including open pending futures, to BetAnySports.eu, for no fee. This appears to be a CRIS/Bookmaker situation, with 5Dimes wanting to clear their Books of Any US players, for some kind of US legal option in the future, but still having a US facing operation for their US clients "loosely" related to them.
                                                            Was on chat for about 2 hours, getting set up, but ultimately everything got done. I had 2 futures on the NFL, and one on the elections, that have been successfully transferred.
                                                            It appears BetAnySports is identical to 5Dimes. Only difference I see so far is that if you allow the reduced Juice option, which is the default option, you can't also have the free monthly Payout option, like you could at 5Dimes. That might suck for lots of people, but maybe they'll adjust that seeing all the new business they're suddenly about to get?

                                                            Edit: If you had reduced juice and 1 Free payout per month at 5Dinmes, they'll allow it at BetanySports also, according to chat.
                                                            Last edited by TheGuesser; 09-07-20, 09:41 PM. Reason: Result after Chat.
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                                                            • mrpapageorgio
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-07-17
                                                              • 2974

                                                              #240
                                                              Originally posted by DontTailMe
                                                              Has anyone successfully requested a refund for parlays with remaining open/pending future legs? I'm assuming that only the open/pending legs are voided and parlays are paid out with the winning legs. Can anyone confirm?
                                                              They refunded my SB future after reaching out to chat. Took 2 hours and they sent me an email notifying me they voided it. I put in the withdrawal request 10 minutes ago. Now just waiting for my Bitcoin.
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                                                              • pologq
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-07-12
                                                                • 19899

                                                                #241
                                                                Originally posted by spro23
                                                                Why wouldn't they have done this in July or August? It's suspicious they wait until the biggest deposit weekend of their year.
                                                                really good point
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                                                                • lonegambler23
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-22-16
                                                                  • 9761

                                                                  #242
                                                                  Originally posted by TheGuesser
                                                                  They will allow you to transfer everything, including open pending futures, to BetAnySports.eu, for no fee. This appears to be a CRIS/Bookmaker situation, with 5Dimes wanting to clear their Books of Any US players, for some kind of US legal option in the future, but still having a US facing operation for their US clients "loosely" related to them.
                                                                  Was on chat for about 2 hours, getting set up, but ultimately everything got done. I had 2 futures on the NFL, and one on the elections, that have been successfully transferred.
                                                                  It appears BetAnySports is identical to 5Dimes. Only difference I see so far is that if you allow the reduced Juice option, which is the default option, you can't also have the free monthly Payout option, like you could at 5Dimes. That might suck for lots of people, but maybe they'll adjust that seeing all the new business they're suddenly about to get?
                                                                  i might join them. how are the limits there? max limits on sportsbetting prime as well?
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                                                                  • booker777
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 01-21-11
                                                                    • 119

                                                                    #243
                                                                    They say that this is just temporary for US bettors . Is that just smoke?
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                                                                    • KVB
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                                      • 74817

                                                                      #244
                                                                      Originally posted by spro23
                                                                      Why wouldn't they have done this in July or August? It's suspicious they wait until the biggest deposit weekend of their year.
                                                                      Interesting though here for sure. I would think, they would have if they could have.

                                                                      Must be some kid of contract holding them back. Maybe this just came up.

                                                                      A bunch of reasons but yeah, any more notice would probably have been good.

                                                                      I don't post up there, they don't exactly let me fire away there, but almost everyone does.

                                                                      If I were there, with a balance and pending bets, I'd probably just let them transfer everything to the new book, if that's what they are allowing.

                                                                      Then go from there.
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                                                                      • pologq
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 10-07-12
                                                                        • 19899

                                                                        #245
                                                                        Originally posted by booker777
                                                                        They say that this is just temporary for US bettors . Is that just smoke?
                                                                        seems like smoke imo

                                                                        or they are getting into the US market under a diff entity
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