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  • lakerboy
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-02-09
    • 94381

    #1
    Why did books adjust jazz line so much?
    They are+1?

    The one game blowout got a lot of respect. Isn't Denver-1 looking good?

    Recommendations?
  • SamsNCharge99
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-22-08
    • 41242

    #2
    on jazz today

    every game will be a toss up with this series
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    • johnnyvegas13
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 05-21-15
      • 27919

      #3
      I am already on jazz series

      prob won’t actually play this gm but I think it’s jazz or nothing
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      • Eddy Munny
        Benched
        • 08-13-13
        • 15769

        #4
        The line adjustment is because Mike Conley is back in the bubble and will start today for the Jazz.
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        • lakerboy
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-02-09
          • 94381

          #5
          Thanks Eddy. Who do you like?
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          • MrSink
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-30-08
            • 8087

            #6
            toss up for me also
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            • Eddy Munny
              Benched
              • 08-13-13
              • 15769

              #7
              Originally posted by lakerboy
              Thanks Eddy. Who do you like?
              I lean Jazz, I think they steal the series.
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              • midnighthour91
                SBR High Roller
                • 12-14-16
                • 146

                #8
                Jazz
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  Dead even teams Laker
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                  • KVB
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 05-29-14
                    • 74817

                    #10
                    I have Denver winning this game 118 - 117 in the raw forecast.

                    Jazz have Conley back from bubble.

                    I really don't think we've seen that much movement though overall, have we? There was small utah steam but it seems like an oddly split market.

                    Let's just say I am getting word that the books have somehow managed to sell a lot of Denver spread bets, the same with the handle on Denver, while the Utah bets and money seem to be on the moneyline.

                    Maybe we see that one point game I've been looking for Lakeshow.

                    lol.
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                    • pavyracer
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82869

                      #11
                      Not a significant adjustment. It happens all the time. Pick a winner and don't overanalyze the line.
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                      • lakerboy
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 04-02-09
                        • 94381

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                        Not a significant adjustment. It happens all the time. Pick a winner and don't overanalyze the line.
                        Huh?

                        Denver was -4.5/5 in first game. -3.5/4 in game2. Now this game is a pk. Mike Conley is not that good.
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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                          Huh?

                          Denver was -4.5/5 in first game. -3.5/4 in game2. Now this game is a pk. Mike Conley is not that good.
                          I see, you are comparing to the other spreads.

                          Got it.

                          You had me digging for some bigger movement from this morning.

                          Not that my forecasts are some kind of God send, but the raw forecast had Denver winning by 8 last game and about the same the game before.

                          This game shows a closer prediction both because of Conley and that last Jazz game. Not an over reaction, but a recent performance metric grabbing on nonetheless.

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                          • Allure
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-18-10
                            • 7606

                            #14
                            KVB if you have it 118-117 take the over, why bother with sides
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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #15
                              Block, steals, assist, starters and bench contributions all up for Jazz, showing they can play with Denver.

                              Those are some of the specifics of it all.

                              Denver rebounding may have been up, but in their loss in game 1 Utah had the rebound advantage.

                              Mitchell a wild factor and also a bit of an equalizer. Denver letting him get away with too much.
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Allure
                                KVB if you have it 118-117 take the over, why bother with sides
                                Yes and truthfully the raw forecast is most definitely over performing on totals all season.

                                Over the last 100 plays comparing the forecast to the line with even a .5 point discepency we're getting a 65-30-5 record, it translates to more than +20 units.

                                In contrast, against the spread it's more like 47-51-2.

                                It's hitting 60% against the moneyline as well, but betting all of those would still be a -4 unit loss.

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                                • pologq
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-07-12
                                  • 19899

                                  #17
                                  i will be a spectator. series too hard for me to call.
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                                  • Zlaniner
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-12-19
                                    • 1697

                                    #18
                                    WagerType: Date: Team: Risking / To Win Ticket#:
                                    STRAIGHT BET Aug 21 NBA [723] TOTAL o216-110 (DENVER vrs UTAH) 30.00 SBR / 27.27 SBR 4500347
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                                    • pavyracer
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-12-07
                                      • 82869

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                      Huh?

                                      Denver was -4.5/5 in first game. -3.5/4 in game2. Now this game is a pk. Mike Conley is not that good.
                                      The reason why is with teams tied 1-1 the series is a best of 5 now. Do I have to teach you everything?

                                      The initial line for game 1 was based on best of 7 series.
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                                      • lakerboy
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-02-09
                                        • 94381

                                        #20
                                        Utah -1.5?
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                                        • ward106
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 04-22-16
                                          • 78

                                          #21
                                          Will Barton is out as well
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                                          • lakerboy
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 04-02-09
                                            • 94381

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                            Thr reason why is with teams tied 1-1 the series is a best of 5 now. Do I have to teach you everything?

                                            The initial line for game 1 was based on best of 7 series.
                                            What's the line in the Mavs/Clippers? The series is tied.
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                                            • goduke
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-17-10
                                              • 11580

                                              #23
                                              Tough to say. I like Denver in this but I also went against the overreaction in the okc Houston series and got smacked.
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                                              • lakerboy
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-02-09
                                                • 94381

                                                #24
                                                I'm on Denver
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                                                • KVB
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                  • 74817

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                  Utah -1.5?
                                                  Yep.

                                                  First it was the ML bets moving it, now the spread bets are coming through.

                                                  Maybe it's so back and forth that the OVER is the play.

                                                  A lot of these players can put up points.

                                                  And the Total has even dropped...lol.
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                                                  • asiagambler
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-23-17
                                                    • 6827

                                                    #26
                                                    I don't get it either. Conley worth 4 points is laughable

                                                    If any series needed a big adjustment, I thought it'd be Celtics/Sixers but it opened at same line considering Hayward adjustment. Makes me think Sixers play hard and keep it close. Market always knows
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                                                    • mjsuax13
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 03-14-15
                                                      • 25200

                                                      #27
                                                      I gotta go with the over again here. 217.5 at BETMGM and they have averaged 244.5 in this series. Interesting enough they were opposite most of the year. Going over. Good luck all. I’d take any points here if I were on a side.
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                                                      • 480Hustle
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 10-13-11
                                                        • 42

                                                        #28
                                                        I like nuggets here for some reason , I think they’ll bounce back .. too good of a team not to
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                                                        • Eddy Munny
                                                          Benched
                                                          • 08-13-13
                                                          • 15769

                                                          #29
                                                          Jazz have the home court advantage now.
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                                                          • Eddy Munny
                                                            Benched
                                                            • 08-13-13
                                                            • 15769

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ward106
                                                            Will Barton is out as well
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                                                            • KVB
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 05-29-14
                                                              • 74817

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by asiagambler
                                                              I don't get it either. Conley worth 4 points is laughable

                                                              If any series needed a big adjustment, I thought it'd be Celtics/Sixers but it opened at same line considering Hayward adjustment. Makes me think Sixers play hard and keep it close. Market always knows
                                                              News of a starter returning is something to the public and the real market reaction to that news wasn't much of a move at all, that was the earlier steam I mentioned.

                                                              But Utah was still getting bet and key books were holding off on the move, now they let the flood gates open for steam, the losing kind of steam.

                                                              Utah moneyline becoming highly suspect to me from a "spot" play perspective when analyzing market factors, including forecasts.

                                                              Man I hope that made sense, but bottom line I don't like the move in general.

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                                                              • rm18
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 09-20-05
                                                                • 22291

                                                                #32
                                                                If Denver can ever get Harris and Barton back they will wreck Utah but for now it is dead even.
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                                                                • KVB
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                                  • 74817

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I just went LIVE with OVER 206.5 (+100)

                                                                  Let's see if that momentum can change.

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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Laker take a nice 4 hr walk this weekend and get away from gambling
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                                                                    • shoota mcgavin
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 08-20-20
                                                                      • 3

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Jesus hard to watch Denver play like this lol
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