Just So You All Know MLB Records And World Series Winner Major Asterisk

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 06-26-20, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by pologq

mlb "season" is like a glorified tournament. no way the stats should really matter the same. just meant to give fans something to watch and us degenerates something to bet.

Better question is how does this impact the linesmaking?

Benefit to the STRONGER teams? Sprint, not a marathon. Nothing to hold back.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 06-26-20, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by unusialsusp5

dwight evans won the hr title in 1981 with 22 no one said a word.

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When u wrote that, I didn't believe it. I had to check. Interesting...DwEvans tied w/ Armas + Grich + EMurray at 22 HR (in about 108 gms played).

Grich + DwEvans are two of my highest guys on list of WORTHY HOFers who aren't in. Shared HR title is another feather in his cap (and Grich's). Two great all-around players who did it in other ways, like great Defense + plate patience (hi walk totals).

**19th Hole** · 06-26-20, 12:04 PM

Thank You JJ
From
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**stake1** · 06-26-20, 12:14 PM

No chance they finish the shortened season. Not with the changes in Texas and Florida now

**Zlaniner** · 06-26-20, 12:43 PM

lets go giants
beat la !!

**jjgold** · 06-26-20, 01:38 PM

I still think baseballs in trouble because of corona maybe I’m wrong I hope I’m wrong

**stevenash** · 06-26-20, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

I still think baseballs in trouble because of corona maybe I’m wrong I hope I’m wrong

I was just reading on Baseball Prospectus where there's some MLB executives that are expressing concerns about the restart.
MLB may not go off as planned, stay tuned.

**Bcatswin** · 06-26-20, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

60 Games is an exhibition season that is all

Lot batting titles do not count, HR titles lol

NBA and NHL played a a lot of the season so they are ok

Great insight

**2daBank** · 06-26-20, 04:00 PM

Who cares? Obviously will be a outlier season but I don’t think that means it will have any less meaning for whomever comes out on top!! I think it a great year to find some nice underdogs you like and take a shot on nice odds cause anything can happen when a team starts hot with only a 60 game schedule! You can pretty much be sure at least one the favs will come out slow and fall off the pace!!! I think it gonna be incredibly interesting as normally the big dogs can get off to a slow start knowing at some point their talent will typically win out over a complete season, not this year!

**MinnesotaFats** · 06-26-20, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by unusialsusp5

3.1 plate appearance x 60 means 186 for the batting title which should count since it is the same for everyone. pitchers should not get more than 12 starts so a 10 game winner would be a cy young candidate. legitimate. the e.r.a title would be unaffected since no starter would be pitching in extra innings more than likely. the hr and rbi leader which should be around 20 hr and 55 rbi also should be recognized. obviously no one is going to compare the records to a 162 game season. you wouldn't have believed the furor that was raised over roger maris beating babe ruth's hr record in 1961 just because it was a 162 game season to ruth's 154. when in fact ruth had 3 more plate appearances than maris did. maris got an asterisk because the press didn't like him and pushed for it. in the future when looking back at this season if it gets completed which is doubtful everyone will concede that it was only 60 games and accept the players totals and results. their figures will all be blended into their lifetime stats so why shouldn't they count and be recognized for this one season. maybe you can make a case if someone hits .400. they will say he won the batting title but ted williams is still the last .400 hitter. when dwight evans won the hr title in 1981 with 22 no one said a word.

Well put

We give credit to those who served time for war, applying a "what if" to their stats

We put Harold Baines in the HOF based on the 94/95 games misses (he would have been 3000/ 400)

Others like Rice and Morris and Blyleven are given credit for missing games in 81

Yeah I say some dude hits .400 give him credit

How about a 60 game hitting streak!!??

**2daBank** · 06-26-20, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by unusialsusp5

3.1 plate appearance x 60 means 186 for the batting title which should count since it is the same for everyone. pitchers should not get more than 12 starts so a 10 game winner would be a cy young candidate. legitimate. the e.r.a title would be unaffected since no starter would be pitching in extra innings more than likely. the hr and rbi leader which should be around 20 hr and 55 rbi also should be recognized. obviously no one is going to compare the records to a 162 game season. you wouldn't have believed the furor that was raised over roger maris beating babe ruth's hr record in 1961 just because it was a 162 game season to ruth's 154. when in fact ruth had 3 more plate appearances than maris did. maris got an asterisk because the press didn't like him and pushed for it. in the future when looking back at this season if it gets completed which is doubtful everyone will concede that it was only 60 games and accept the players totals and results. their figures will all be blended into their lifetime stats so why shouldn't they count and be recognized for this one season. maybe you can make a case if someone hits .400. they will say he won the batting title but ted williams is still the last .400 hitter. when dwight evans won the hr title in 1981 with 22 no one said a word.

Well said. I think era and batting average would be the only 2 things we couldn’t use for record book purposes. Obviously see no reason why we wouldn’t have a batting title, cy young, hr champ, etc etc? Whomever wins those awards still did so no matter how many games it was!! Clearly the season long batting average record and era are things we would have to ignore with so few games but so what? I would look at the guys who won the individual awards and team who won it all no differently than a 162 game season. A case could be made whomever comes out on top had a lot of obstacles to overcome no ever team/players ever had to deal with!!

**jjgold** · 06-26-20, 06:02 PM

I’m getting worried about Covid if it starts hitting teams then what

**2daBank** · 06-26-20, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

I’m getting worried about Covid if it starts hitting teams then what

Then a guy will have a little snivel and have to go on the injured list for 10-15 days, no different than pulling a hammy. Better yet they should just be lax with testing and very few guys will even know they have it!!!

**MinnesotaFats** · 06-26-20, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

Then a guy will have a little snivel and have to go on the injured list for 10-15 days, no different than pulling a hammy. Better yet they should just be lax with testing and very few guys will even know they have it!!!

Owners will be BURYING results as making the post season only chance for a profitable year for their individual team.

**Carseller4** · 06-26-20, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

What if some dude hits .400 lol

Williams would roll over in his grave!

Only 1 player has hit over .400 in the first 60 games in the last 20 years.

Chipper Jones .408 in 2008.

**spippen** · 06-26-20, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by JMobile

Put your house on the Dodgers. They will win it this time. Kershaw and all arms well rested.

Agree!

CJ · 06-27-20, 01:51 AM

Oh a major asterisk this year? As opposed to the last two WS won by teams that were caught blatantly cheating?

**stevenash** · 06-27-20, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by CJ

Oh a major asterisk this year? As opposed to the last two WS won by teams that were caught blatantly cheating?

Good point.
Well played fella.

**stevenash** · 06-27-20, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Carseller4

Only 1 player has hit over .400 in the first 60 games in the last 20 years.

Chipper Jones .408 in 2008.

Four have done it in the last 26 years.

Chipper Jones, 2008: .409
Tony Gwynn, 1997: .403
Larry Walker, 1997: .417
Paul O’Neill, 1994: .417

(and Carew did it in '83)

**MinnesotaFats** · 06-27-20, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by Carseller4

Only 1 player has hit over .400 in the first 60 games in the last 20 years.

Chipper Jones .408 in 2008.

The .400 guy doesn't need to play 60 games he only needs 190 ABs

Could get that in 45 or 50 games then say he's got Covid and sit out

**jjgold** · 06-27-20, 09:55 PM

I don’t know how much interest is going to be in baseball want to comes back to so many other things going on in the world maybe it’ll be a good thing

**BuckyOne** · 06-27-20, 10:51 PM

Baseball is screwed in the head about statistics. Live ball versus dead ball era. Steroids versus no steroids - 154 games versus 162.

Won a World Series or never got a sniff.

Dickhead or nice guy?

I still think stats are only a modest part of the picture. Should not be the soul basis for HOF consideration

**RavensFan2k3** · 06-30-20, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by pologq

mlb "season" is like a glorified tournament. no way the stats should really matter the same. just meant to give fans something to watch and us degenerates something to bet.

That’s all thst really matters anyway

**Mr KLC** · 07-03-20, 11:37 AM

Gerrit Cole: "There is only going to be one coronavirus World Series Champion. That's unique in itself. I don't see why you wouldn't want to take that trophy home."

**Mr KLC** · 07-03-20, 02:45 PM

**Mr KLC** · 07-03-20, 03:48 PM

Major League Baseball announced that, of 3,185 COVID-19 tests it administered, 38 were positive. That's 1.2 percent. 31 of the 38 positive tests were players. Nineteen teams had an individual test positive.

**smitch124** · 07-03-20, 06:45 PM

Major Asterisk *

Captain Asterisk *

Lieutenant Asterisk *

Sergeant Asterisk *

**jjgold** · 07-03-20, 09:18 PM

Baseball now in jeopardy