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  • DrunkHorseplayer
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    • 05-15-10
    • 7719

    #36
    None of the TC races should even be run this year.
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    • Jellymancan
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      • 03-09-20
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      #37
      Originally posted by dark star
      For starters Baffert said none of his horses would run in a 1.5 mile Belmont....Fuk HIM
      Agree. Hope Tiz the Law takes his out.
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      • JBEX
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        • 01-02-12
        • 23619

        #38
        it's a who cares year for the triple crown races and if they want to run them in some haphazard order go ahead..do you want to be the owner of the horse who wins the 1 1/8 mile belmont..aside from the money the win means little to nothing in terms of prestige..whole thing is dumb but why should I care..it's a race to handicap..that's all
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        • Slurry Pumper
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          • 06-18-18
          • 2811

          #39
          The Belmont won't be the Belmont without the distance. I hope no horse wins all three if they run all three that would taint the tradition.
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82847

            #40
            A lot of you are horse veterinarians. The 3 year olds will die if they race 1.5 miles as the first leg of triple crown. But they can switch the Preakness to 1.5 miles since is the last leg of triple crown.
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            • golgolgol
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              • 05-05-20
              • 416

              #41
              Originally posted by big joe 1212
              If someone wins the triple crown they should have a big fat * next to it
              Or a regular sized Obelix next to it...
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              • BarkingToad
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                • 08-31-08
                • 5913

                #42
                Can't call it a triple crown race this year
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                • KVB
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                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #43
                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                  A lot of you are horse veterinarians. The 3 year olds will die if they race 1.5 miles as the first leg of triple crown. But they can switch the Preakness to 1.5 miles since is the last leg of triple crown.
                  We get the 3 year old training calendar and why it's happening, it's just forcing a triple crown with makeshift races. I think that's the deal here.

                  Interesting solution.
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                  • allabout the $$$
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                    • 04-17-10
                    • 9843

                    #44
                    Originally posted by stake1
                    Listen up guy. Stop bothering me to bet with you on credit. When I bet, its with reputable sportsbooks like 5 Dimes, Heritage, and Bookmaker So go post some more vids of you eating on paper plates in the car. But get this in your "negative IQ brain", I aint ever betting with you
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                    • SBR Tony
                      Moderator
                      • 01-31-18
                      • 3934

                      #45
                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                      A lot of you are horse veterinarians. The 3 year olds will die if they race 1.5 miles as the first leg of triple crown. But they can switch the Preakness to 1.5 miles since is the last leg of triple crown.
                      Pimlico isn't built for a mile and a half race. They don't have the wide turns like Belmont has, which is why they hold it at Belmont
                      Most tracks are 1 mile long in circumference, Belmont is 1.5 miles long and is so big that they have two other tracks inside of the main track

                      I agree with your thinking because of the new schedule, but they really should back up these new dates and run the Belmont at the end, not start off with it.
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                      • dark star
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                        • 01-04-09
                        • 3900

                        #46
                        Originally posted by sbr tony
                        pimlico isn't built for a mile and a half race. They don't have the wide turns like belmont has, which is why they hold it at belmont
                        most tracks are 1 mile long in circumference, belmont is 1.5 miles long and is so big that they have two other tracks inside of the main track

                        i agree with your thinking because of the new schedule, but they really should back up these new dates and run the belmont at the end, not start off with it.

                        this
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                        • pavyracer
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                          • 04-12-07
                          • 82847

                          #47
                          Originally posted by SBR Tony
                          Pimlico isn't built for a mile and a half race. They don't have the wide turns like Belmont has, which is why they hold it at Belmont
                          Most tracks are 1 mile long in circumference, Belmont is 1.5 miles long and is so big that they have two other tracks inside of the main track

                          I agree with your thinking because of the new schedule, but they really should back up these new dates and run the Belmont at the end, not start off with it.
                          Maybe run the Preakness with only 8 horses if it's too tight at the corners. I have seen 1.5 miles races in 1 mile tracks before. There is a way to do it.
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                          • Louisvillekid1
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                            • 10-17-07
                            • 52143

                            #48
                            Highly disappointed in distance change

                            the travers is going be better
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                            • Louisvillekid1
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-17-07
                              • 52143

                              #49
                              Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                              None of the TC races should even be run this year.
                              Nah run them

                              but it’s not going to be a triple crown

                              they move up the travers

                              and that will play better
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                              • Louisvillekid1
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-17-07
                                • 52143

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Jellymancan
                                Agree. Hope Tiz the Law takes his out.
                                Lol jelly love this

                                tiz the law baby! Ny bred!
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                                • littlekona
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                                  • 11-19-15
                                  • 5250

                                  #51
                                  bottom line for me is that the racing industry had a chance to finally make the changes to the triple crown that horseman have been asking for in regards to the spacing of the races. 20 years ago it was fine but now with many 3 year old's only having 2-4 races and many even with no starts as 2 year olds the covid-19 situation gave them a great reason to make the changes moving forward. They blew it.
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                                  • JBEX
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-02-12
                                    • 23619

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by littlekona
                                    bottom line for me is that the racing industry had a chance to finally make the changes to the triple crown that horseman have been asking for in regards to the spacing of the races. 20 years ago it was fine but now with many 3 year old's only having 2-4 races and many even with no starts as 2 year olds the covid-19 situation gave them a great reason to make the changes moving forward. They blew it.


                                    I'm always torn by this.. kind of lean towards keeping things the way they are because it kind of spoils the tradition if it's accomplished (triple crown that is).. your side also a legitimate argument in that times are different, horses are more fragile.. when I was looking at the virtual derby I was looking at the records of the winners before citation.. many 40-50 starts.. . one who I mentioned (forget which one) won a race between the preakness and belmont lol
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                                    • hawkwind
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                                      • 04-25-11
                                      • 4071

                                      #53
                                      NOT !!! As the Moderator of the Horse Forum Why is this Great News? For Most of the Individuals that have been wagering on Horses & the Triple Crown for the Last Four & 1/2 Decades would Argue that this is Not Great News. If you would be so Kind please explain how this is as you say. [ QUOTE=jjgold;29453401]Great news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
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                                      • leovegas
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                                        • 09-03-17
                                        • 2543

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by JBEX
                                        makes no sense.. should have just not run it this year
                                        Couldn't be more wrong. This virus situation isn't a one-off thing. The world will adjust, and sports and horse circuits no exception. The ones who manage to adapt to the new reality first will reap the benefits. Wait and see approach has never worked in business.
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                                        • JBEX
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-02-12
                                          • 23619

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by leovegas
                                          Couldn't be more wrong. This virus situation isn't a one-off thing. The world will adjust, and sports and horse circuits no exception. The ones who manage to adapt to the new reality first will reap the benefits. Wait and see approach has never worked in business.


                                          it's pretty harmless what they're doing this year .. but a belmont at 1 1/8 I will never take seriously.. for me it's a lost year for triple crown races
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                                          • SBR Tony
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-31-18
                                            • 3934

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by littlekona
                                            bottom line for me is that the racing industry had a chance to finally make the changes to the triple crown that horseman have been asking for in regards to the spacing of the races. 20 years ago it was fine but now with many 3 year old's only having 2-4 races and many even with no starts as 2 year olds the covid-19 situation gave them a great reason to make the changes moving forward. They blew it.
                                            agree, they, the owners and trainers have pushed these horses too far over the years just so they can go for the big purses
                                            some of these guys should understand these are Thoroughbreds and not standardbreds, they shouldn't be raced on short rest.
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                                            • littlekona
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                                              • 11-19-15
                                              • 5250

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by JBEX
                                              it's pretty harmless what they're doing this year .. but a belmont at 1 1/8 I will never take seriously.. for me it's a lost year for triple crown races
                                              I agree what a joke. We all know the Preakness will move to a different track and or race soon too so all the traditional triple crown arguments will come to end soon anyway. Space it out more and maybe give So. Cal or Florida the 2nd leg to keep Stronach happy.
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                                              • blackbart
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                                                • 12-04-07
                                                • 3834

                                                #58
                                                Its because baffert wont show up for 1.5 miles. I'm just happy that they are running, anything.
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                                                • JBEX
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                  • 23619

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by littlekona
                                                  I agree what a joke. We all know the Preakness will move to a different track and or race soon too so all the traditional triple crown arguments will come to end soon anyway. Space it out more and maybe give So. Cal or Florida the 2nd leg to keep Stronach happy.


                                                  it's the peter pan on steroids lol.. but the mass audience doesn't care about that race so the ratings are lost.. the undercard is always great but you need the main attraction to sell it all.. I could be sold on making changes to the triple crown as far as spacing and maybe the preakness at laurel if that's practical.. my first choice would be keep it in maryland
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                                                  • SBR Tony
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • 01-31-18
                                                    • 3934

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by littlekona
                                                    I agree what a joke. We all know the Preakness will move to a different track and or race soon too so all the traditional triple crown arguments will come to end soon anyway. Space it out more and maybe give So. Cal or Florida the 2nd leg to keep Stronach happy.
                                                    Frank should stick those $30 million statues up his ass
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                                                    • littlekona
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                                                      • 11-19-15
                                                      • 5250

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by blackbart
                                                      Its because baffert wont show up for 1.5 miles. I'm just happy that they are running, anything.
                                                      wait....won't show up? He has won the triple crown twice and won it again with Point Given and second a bunch of times Silver Charm & Real Quiet going for triple
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                                                      • JBEX
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                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                        • 23619

                                                        #62
                                                        I really don't think it's that a bad idea to do what they're doing with the belmont stakes.. they need a draw to get the audience and the undercard is great so call it the belmont .. I think even to the masses who only play triple crown races it'll mean less but maybe the fascination with the change in distance will make up for it somewhat.. i really feel differently now thinking about it more in terms of practicality but still to me the title of belmont stakes winner 2020 means little in terms of prestige
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                                                        • temple2010
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                                                          • 03-16-10
                                                          • 1369

                                                          #63
                                                          This is what happens when you jump the gun on making decisions- fuks the whole thing up! They should have waited to see what happens with the pandemic instead of panicking. Hopefully College football waits on making any decisions at least a couple more months. Anyway, saying that I'm glad they are having these races on whatever dates- gives me the chance to wager into huge betting pools, gotta love that!!
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                                                          • trytrytry
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                                                            • 03-13-06
                                                            • 23653

                                                            #64
                                                            LEts just be Honest Baffert (who Im sure was in on the decisions on timing and distance) saved this revised Belmont if he bring both superstars to meet Tiz the Law and the others.......
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                                                            • BigdaddyQH
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                                                              • 07-13-09
                                                              • 19530

                                                              #65
                                                              It matters not. This will NEVER be considered a legitimate Triple Crown year anyways. The racing industry is dying a slow death. They need to stop the bleeding. Racing in California is almost non-existant.
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                                                              • littlekona
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                                                                • 11-19-15
                                                                • 5250

                                                                #66
                                                                check this salty boy and see if anyone can catch the reason I posted
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                                                                • Louisvillekid1
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-17-07
                                                                  • 52143

                                                                  #67
                                                                  No this is what happens without the horses integrity act

                                                                  we need a commissioner and team

                                                                  take 1% of all purse to regulate it, from the winners

                                                                  guarantee they go for it

                                                                  I’m totally against changing the triple crown for good

                                                                  this year I’m just rolling with the punches and understand why


                                                                  I get this distance cut , can’t go 1.5 miles when none will have gonna longer than 9 furlongs
                                                                  grateful to have the sport

                                                                  and I think all this movement gives opportunities to handicappers

                                                                  that public might not be thinking about
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                                                                  • Louisvillekid1
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-17-07
                                                                    • 52143

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by trytrytry
                                                                    LEts just be Honest Baffert (who Im sure was in on the decisions on timing and distance) saved this revised Belmont if he bring both superstars to meet Tiz the Law and the others.......
                                                                    this does not help baffert , this allows for more speed to enter

                                                                    but I don’t care either way

                                                                    They ain’t coming into NY and beating Tiz @ Home
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                                                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 10-17-07
                                                                      • 52143

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Preakness isn’t going anywhere

                                                                      dudnt you guys see?

                                                                      they are forcing stronachs hand to renovate

                                                                      even set a dollar amount or its over

                                                                      if you guys even been, great party , it’s in the hood tho
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                                                                      • JBEX
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                                        • 23619

                                                                        #70
                                                                        it'll probably be one of the best 1 1/8th dirt races at belmont ever..can't even think off the top of my head of another big race at that distance there besides the peter pan
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