Tua threw to the best crop of wrs in history in 2019

[seaborneq]

Ruggs was the least talked about and nearly the least productive of the four while they were playing. Heard about Jeudy every week, Waddle was special when the ball touched his hands, and Devonte Smith looked the part. Tua won’t throw to anyone that good on the Dolphins his entire rookie contract. He will have to be super accurate to be effective. I just don’t see the Drew Brees comparisons.

[johnnyvegas13]

I do think Judy better than rugs

Made no sense y he went after

Raiders r idiots tho

Didn't they draft heywatd bey w a similar pk

[seaborneq]

I do think Judy better than rugs

Made no sense y he went after

Raiders r idiots tho

Didn't they draft heywatd bey w a similar pk

That shows the talent level of who Tua was throwing towards. The number one wr taken in the draft was the fourth best receiver on the team. Best wr Corp ever assembled.

[chargers4222]

Agreed. If you watched Alabama's games, he's throwing to crackheads who have already separated from the defender by at least 10 yards. He was throwing baseballs into soccer nets. Plus the crazy injury history, I wouldn't draft him at all, let alone 5th overall.

[jjgold]

He should do ok if healthy

[stevenash]

Ruggs was the least talked about and nearly the least productive of the four while they were playing. Heard about Jeudy every week, Waddle was special when the ball touched his hands, and Devonte Smith looked the part. Tua won’t throw to anyone that good on the Dolphins his entire rookie contract. He will have to be super accurate to be effective. I just don’t see the Drew Brees comparisons.

You might be right, Burrow had Jefferson but his ancillary receivers were not as good as Alabama's.
Burrow threw a lot to his running back Clyde Edward-Helaire though, Tua had no need to throw to Harris out of the backfield as often.

[seaborneq]

Agreed. If you watched Alabama's games, he's throwing to crackheads who have already separated from the defender by at least 10 yards. He was throwing baseballs into soccer nets. Plus the crazy injury history, I wouldn't draft him at all, let alone 5th overall.

Unreal how good those guys were. They made the backup look good. You can’t overthrow any of them.

[seaborneq]

You might be right, Burrow had Jefferson but his ancillary receivers were not as good as Alabama's.
Burrow threw a lot to his running back Clyde Edward-Helaire though, Tua had no need to throw to Harris out of the backfield as often.

Burrow had Jefferson, Chase, and Marshall. ALL of those receivers broke the LSU school record for tds in a season and two of Tua’s receivers went before ANY of them. That’s history breaking talent at Tua’s disposal.

[seaborneq]

Ruggs went 11th, first wr taken last year, Jeudy went 15th last year. Waddle went 6th this year and Devonta Smith 10th. 4 of the top 5 wrs drafted in 20 and 21 were targets of Tua at Bama. Best WR corp ever.

[Orbison]

i can't stand Tua and can't wait until the Phins move on from him

[Chi_archie]

Very impressive.

Second best prob the groups of receivers that went through Clemson right before deshaun Watson showed up around 2011-14... Hopkins, Watson ect. Can't remember the nobody qb then

[seaborneq]

Very impressive.

Second best prob the groups of receivers that went through Clemson right before deshaun Watson showed up around 2011-14... Hopkins, Watson ect. Can't remember the nobody qb then

Probably Taj Boyd

[Eddy Munny]

This is why I don't think people who say (insert NFL's worst team here) would crush Alabama 77-0 or whatever, on account of it being some gross mismatch pitting men against boys, have their heads screwed on straight. That kind of gap may have existed many moons ago, but the level of talent that some of these elite Alabama/Clemson/OSU teams have pumped out in recent years has radically closed the gap. Multiple first rounders on both sides of the ball and at myriad of positions, not to mention future first rounders waiting in the wings, and a plethora of other guys that'll get drafted in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. These are professional farm teams, not intramural weekend warriors.

[johnnyvegas13]

This is why I don't think people who say (insert NFL's worst team here) would crush Alabama 77-0 or whatever, on account of it being some gross mismatch pitting men against boys, have their heads screwed on straight. That kind of gap may have existed many moons ago, but the level of talent that some of these elite Alabama/Clemson/OSU teams have pumped out in recent years has radically closed the gap. Multiple first rounders on both sides of the ball and at myriad of positions, not to mention future first rounders waiting in the wings, and a plethora of other guys that'll get drafted in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. These are professional farm teams, not intramural weekend warriors.

Pro teams r much deeper tho

just cus a college team has a hand full of stars

[Eddy Munny]

Pro teams r much deeper tho

just cus a college team has a hand full of stars

They're not as deep as you think... A lot of teams lose a guy and scramble to replace him with a journeyman, sometimes guys that are undrafted free agents. In the NFL it's a lot more difficult to hoard talent when there are salary restrictions, whereas Nick Saban can comb the nation and stockpile a gluttony of talent until he runs out of scholarships.

[Chi_archie]

Probably Taj Boyd

yep looks that way

in 2012/2013
Sammy Watkins
Deandre Hopkins
Adam Humphries
Martavis Bryant
Andre Ellington
Mike Williams

[rm18]

yep looks that way

in 2012/2013
Sammy Watkins
Deandre Hopkins
Adam Humphries
Martavis Bryant
Andre Ellington
Mike Williams

Dwayne Allen and Jaron Brown pros too.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Very good detail in here. Not too tough to look good when guys are always open.

[seaborneq]

Very good detail in here. Not too tough to look good when guys are always open.

That’s why Tua has to be graded on a higher scale. I watched him play a lot at Alabama and I never saw him have to thread the needle once. DBs played 10 yards off of Jeudy and any of those guys who got a step Tua couldn’t overthrow them.

[cincinnatikid513]

tua has a weak arm he's the left handed phillip rivers

[seaborneq]

tua has a weak arm he's the left handed phillip rivers

His longer passes are loopy looking like Philip Rivers. I never thought about until you brought it up. Plus Philip Rivers threw to some of the tallest receivers in his career than most. Gates, V Jackson, Mike Williams, Kenan, to name a few

[jtoler]

lol wow nobody questions montana’s greatness or any other qb because they had weapons redic

[jtoler]

tua has a weak arm he's the left handed phillip rivers

[hawkeye 16]

i can't stand Tua and can't wait until the Phins move on from him

I'm 50/50 on Tua, but at least the Phins got that extra 2023 first rounder in their back pocket. If he still can't do well with Fuller and Waddle, then it might be time to move on.

It seemed like he has had a hard time learning NFL offenses and reading NFL defenses. However, he was a rookie coming off a major injury.

We shall see.

[seaborneq]

Dilfer also said mark sanchez was an alpha male of his draft’s qb class. I hadn’t listened to him since

[jtoler]

accuracy

2nd in league in completion percentage at 70.9%

[BeatTheJerk]

accuracy

2nd in league in completion percentage at 70.9%

90% of his throws are 10 yards or less.

[seaborneq]

accuracy

2nd in league in completion percentage at 70.9%

Tight Ends and check downs are his friends. He definitely is not pushing the ball down the field.

[jtoler]

90% of his throws are 10 yards or less.

that goes for every qb

[BeatTheJerk]

that goes for every qb

Not too far from the truth now a days.