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  • big joe 1212
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 06-01-08
    • 19380

    #1
    International Horse Racing
    Why don’t they use colored clothes so we know who’s who?

    Better question is why am I betting on this?
  • StackinGreen
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-09-10
    • 12140

    #2
    Good questions, you know the answer to question 2, biggie

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    • big joe 1212
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 06-01-08
      • 19380

      #3
      Originally posted by StackinGreen
      Good questions, you know the answer to question 2, biggie

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      • slayer14
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 08-12-13
        • 22022

        #4
        Which racing you betting on
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        • trytrytry
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-13-06
          • 23652

          #5
          JApan? Australia?
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          • big joe 1212
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 06-01-08
            • 19380

            #6
            Everything on TVG
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            • littlekona
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 11-19-15
              • 5242

              #7
              they are old school the silk colors have much tradition in the UK.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                Play telephone numbers any form of horse racing have a much better chance than the guided reading the form
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                • big joe 1212
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 06-01-08
                  • 19380

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  Play telephone numbers any form of horse racing have a much better chance than the guided reading the form
                  Do you even read what’s going on in these threads?
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                  • cecil127
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-19-09
                    • 7310

                    #10
                    Originally posted by big joe 1212
                    Do you even read what’s going on in these threads?
                    not a phuckin chance the bald prick even bothers...
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Just throw three numbers out and you have a great chance of a score here and there

                      Don’t worry about cloth’s
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                      • DrunkHorseplayer
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 05-15-10
                        • 7719

                        #12
                        Aussie racing is way better; juice free.
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                        • pilebuck13
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-15-15
                          • 17918

                          #13
                          I feel I was just ripped off I had a 1k account balance and bet 800 on a race for a horse to show and 200 on another race for a horse to show and returned 1050 lol those odds can not be correct... so my balance after both those wins was 1050 lol not winning 1050 total I won 50 dollars one horse won and other got second no way this is correct first horse I put up 800 odds for a 40 dollar win would be 1/20 lol no way
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                          • littlekona
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-19-15
                            • 5242

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pilebuck13
                            I feel I was just ripped off I had a 1k account balance and bet 800 on a race for a horse to show and 200 on another race for a horse to show and returned 1050 lol those odds can not be correct... so my balance after both those wins was 1050 lol not winning 1050 total I won 50 dollars one horse won and other got second no way this is correct first horse I put up 800 odds for a 40 dollar win would be 1/20 lol no way
                            post the bet-track-race and what site you bet on and we can check it
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                            • str
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-12-09
                              • 11806

                              #15
                              Originally posted by big joe 1212
                              Why don’t they use colored clothes so we know who’s who?

                              Better question is why am I betting on this?
                              Until about 1996, most of the U.S. race tracks did not use colored saddle towels consistently. Tracks that raced at night , in my case, Charlestown and Penn National did use colored saddle towels in the 70's and I think earlier than that in C.T.'s case.
                              Some tracks, Bowie for sure, played with things like white saddle towels with black numbers but they reverted back to the black towel with white numbers shortly thereafter.
                              Most tracks got on the same page around the same time and coordinated the color scheme so as not to confuse the player.

                              I think Kona's answer about the UK using all the same color is accurate. Colors were a real big deal back in the day. The fans used to watch colors or the caps on the riders helmets to see their horses back in the day. Tradition wins out still over there I guess.
                              Colors had to be registered with the jockey club prior to using. Don't know if they still do or not but if they still are, no way it's as complex a task as it once was. It was a real pain in the butt.
                              Simulcasting no doubt had a lot to do with the colored towels.
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                              • big joe 1212
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 06-01-08
                                • 19380

                                #16
                                Originally posted by str
                                Until about 1996, most of the U.S. race tracks did not use colored saddle towels consistently. Tracks that raced at night , in my case, Charlestown and Penn National did use colored saddle towels in the 70's and I think earlier than that in C.T.'s case.
                                Some tracks, Bowie for sure, played with things like white saddle towels with black numbers but they reverted back to the black towel with white numbers shortly thereafter.
                                Most tracks got on the same page around the same time and coordinated the color scheme so as not to confuse the player.

                                I think Kona's answer about the UK using all the same color is accurate. Colors were a real big deal back in the day. The fans used to watch colors or the caps on the riders helmets to see their horses back in the day. Tradition wins out still over there I guess.
                                Colors had to be registered with the jockey club prior to using. Don't know if they still do or not but if they still are, no way it's as complex a task as it once was. It was a real pain in the butt.
                                Simulcasting no doubt had a lot to do with the colored towels.
                                Oh yea, I remember those days when we had no colors. I just looked for the jockey silks. I also noticed some of these tracks don’t put the horses in the gate in numerical order, making it even harder to track.
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                                • littlekona
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-19-15
                                  • 5242

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                  Oh yea, I remember those days when we had no colors. I just looked for the jockey silks. I also noticed some of these tracks don’t put the horses in the gate in numerical order, making it even harder to track.
                                  Most International tracks number by weight assignment. I remember the days when Keenland had no track announcer pre Kurt Becker
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                                  • big joe 1212
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 06-01-08
                                    • 19380

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by littlekona
                                    Most International tracks number by weight assignment. I remember the days when Keenland had no track announcer pre Kurt Becker
                                    Oh, good to know. I was wondering why they did that.
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                                    • DrunkHorseplayer
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 05-15-10
                                      • 7719

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                      I feel I was just ripped off I had a 1k account balance and bet 800 on a race for a horse to show and 200 on another race for a horse to show and returned 1050 lol those odds can not be correct... so my balance after both those wins was 1050 lol not winning 1050 total I won 50 dollars one horse won and other got second no way this is correct first horse I put up 800 odds for a 40 dollar win would be 1/20 lol no way
                                      I believe some of the tracks in Asia don't allow minus pools. If too much is bet on a horse, the return will simply be $2.00; this can happen with show bets on huge favorites.
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                                      • big joe 1212
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 06-01-08
                                        • 19380

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                        I believe some of the tracks in Asia don't allow minus pools. If too much is bet on a horse, the return will simply be $2.00; this can happen with show bets on huge favorites.

                                        wow, so risk with zero reward, unreal
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                                        • littlekona
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-19-15
                                          • 5242

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                          I believe some of the tracks in Asia don't allow minus pools. If too much is bet on a horse, the return will simply be $2.00; this can happen with show bets on huge favorites.
                                          they pay 2.04 instead of the 2.10 here in states and also at times the ADW sites that take those tracks will also do the 2.04. Any time you want to be big on a favorite to show on international use the exchanges so you can lock in price
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                                          • big joe 1212
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 06-01-08
                                            • 19380

                                            #22
                                            Littekona is the SBR horse expert

                                            Should take JJ’s job as the moderator

                                            Thanks for all the info!
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