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  • Shute
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-20-17
    • 11835

    #1
    Stocks recover by winter
    Going to get a big loan with minimal interest
    Invest all of the loan into the market
    When market recovers then take it out
    Then play a Super Bowl bet next year
    Win that and retire
  • cincinnatikid513
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-23-17
    • 45360

    #2
    yah buy low sell high
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    • Shute
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-20-17
      • 11835

      #3
      All real gamblers need to get on the plan
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      • Waterstpub87
        SBR MVP
        • 09-09-09
        • 4108

        #4
        I think you are correct on this one, Shute. Be careful though, not pleasant to catch a falling knife.
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        • gojetsgomoxies
          SBR MVP
          • 09-04-12
          • 4222

          #5
          i'm torn.

          stocks were already at a very high valuation before this.

          this is going to have a major negative effect on the economy. this is "real" and will cause a significant recession.

          problem with a virus is the government can't fix it........ government could fix credit crisis. question was whether getting main street to bail out wall street (and others) was politically fair......... there's gonna be negative news on this for months still. i am perplexed as to what the market discounts. not sure the market knows.

          i think you may be right........ choose stocks wisely. don't go overboard on stuff like airlines and casinos. something like amazon is good as it might partially benefit from people staying home.............. and don't do an investment strategy with time decay like an option. i think you will make $$$ but it might take longer than you think.
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          • Cuse0323
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 12-09-09
            • 30169

            #6
            Flawless plan. As long as you’re on the same side as me in the SB. Unless it’s a total, then that’s all you. GL, pal.
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            • Waterstpub87
              SBR MVP
              • 09-09-09
              • 4108

              #7
              Originally posted by gojetsgomoxies
              i'm torn.

              stocks were already at a very high valuation before this.

              this is going to have a major negative effect on the economy. this is "real" and will cause a significant recession.

              problem with a virus is the government can't fix it........ government could fix credit crisis. question was whether getting main street to bail out wall street (and others) was politically fair......... there's gonna be negative news on this for months still. i am perplexed as to what the market discounts. not sure the market knows.

              i think you may be right........ choose stocks wisely. don't go overboard on stuff like airlines and casinos. something like amazon is good as it might partially benefit from people staying home.............. and don't do an investment strategy with time decay like an option. i think you will make $$$ but it might take longer than you think.
              The issue isn't time decay on an option. The issue is that you are going to be paying through the nose because implied vol is so high.

              If you are confident, take the December E-mini future. 8,360 dollars down, 50x S&P 500 exposure. 2800 last trade.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                they could man
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                • pologq
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-07-12
                  • 19899

                  #9
                  anyone with a solid stock right now that has gone down but will go back up that is not an airline or cruise ship and besides amazon?
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                  • d2bets
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 39995

                    #10
                    Be selective. Some stocks will recover, others won't. Tech stocks remain good. Get in on NVDA on sale. AI will probably help solve this crisis.
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                    • carolinakid
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-12-11
                      • 19106

                      #11
                      that why you put some money in stocks themselves and then put some in the indexes so you will not miss the move back
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                      • adila1401
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-16-11
                        • 2014

                        #12
                        what could possibly go wrong
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                        • Sanity Check
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-30-13
                          • 10962

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Shute
                          Going to get a big loan with minimal interest
                          Invest all of the loan into the market
                          When market recovers then take it out
                          Then play a Super Bowl bet next year
                          Win that and retire

                          Terrible idea.

                          How many years did it take the US economy to recover from the 2008 crisis.

                          This could easily be worse than that.

                          Many banks are weak atm. If you see them start to drop dead off economic slowdown. And the deficit stressed government tries to bail them out. That could begin a chain reaction of bankruptcy and breakdown that persists for years, if not decades. Not to mention the dangers associated with the virus coming in waves which take years to burn itself out.

                          People don't understand how bad things could get, or how long it might last, even though the US economy was doing well only a short time before.
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                          • Sanity Check
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-30-13
                            • 10962

                            #14
                            Originally posted by d2bets
                            Be selective. Some stocks will recover, others won't. Tech stocks remain good. Get in on NVDA on sale. AI will probably help solve this crisis.

                            This won't age well at all.

                            Like everything else you post.


                            If you think "tech stocks remain good".

                            You don't understand anything about what's happening right now.
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                            • yahoonino
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-10-07
                              • 2651

                              #15
                              This virus not goin away soon the economy will suffer stock market will crash scary time
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                              • pologq
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-07-12
                                • 19899

                                #16
                                Originally posted by yahoonino
                                This virus not goin away soon the economy will suffer stock market will crash scary time
                                agreed. it is not like one day this virus just disappears. there has to be things done to combat what is happening with this market.
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                                • no1here
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 03-23-09
                                  • 5914

                                  #17
                                  Stocks are not at their low yet dipping into the teens. Turmoil is here to stay with virus not stoppable being spread by money. All cash purchases will be stop with money being replaced electronically. Weed stocks very good with or w/o virus.
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                                  • Mike Huntertz
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-19-09
                                    • 11207

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by yahoonino
                                    This virus not goin away soon the economy will suffer stock market will crash scary time
                                    The worldwide daily new cases is still rising and the US has just started wide spread testing.
                                    Until the daily new case number flattens out I'm out of going long on anything.
                                    Although I do like gojets idea about Amazon.
                                    IMHO The bounce today is because everybody has been taught to "buy the dips".
                                    There is no good news to warrant an up market but was lots to see the down slide.
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                                    • chico2663
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 09-02-10
                                      • 36915

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pologq
                                      anyone with a solid stock right now that has gone down but will go back up that is not an airline or cruise ship and besides amazon?
                                      Fb down 45 a share,pg 5.50 a share,Cato is 11 a share,bmy 6 a share,aa down 7 a share,cbrl down 50 a share,ibm down 40 a share. Real shit show.
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                                      • chico2663
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 09-02-10
                                        • 36915

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
                                        The worldwide daily new cases is still rising and the US has just started wide spread testing.
                                        Until the daily new case number flattens out I'm out of going long on anything.
                                        Although I do like gojets idea about Amazon.
                                        IMHO The bounce today is because everybody has been taught to "buy the dips".
                                        There is no good news to warrant an up market but was lots to see the down slide.
                                        Watched tv and they said in next 2 yrs everyone will have. If you are sick or old you will die. If young or healthy that you will survive. Good way to get rid of boomers and bring social security rates down. Just hope the heat kills it.
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                                        • harthebar
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-09-11
                                          • 15711

                                          #21
                                          Get out of stocks now ....wait hold your loot then go back in. Going to very negative spin. Stocks plus virus .beware
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                                          • Shafted69
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 07-04-08
                                            • 6412

                                            #22
                                            lots of earnings warnings coming which will lead to a higher P/E which will lead to more corrections.
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                                            • MinnesotaFats
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-18-10
                                              • 14758

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Shute
                                              Going to get a big loan with minimal interest
                                              Invest all of the loan into the market
                                              When market recovers then take it out
                                              Then play a Super Bowl bet next year
                                              Win that and retire
                                              ....and which stock(s) would you purchase?

                                              What PE ratio represents value to you?

                                              Generally I feel the American consumer will lead this economy forward, however what we need to look out for here is a situation of liquidity and personal debt.

                                              Dardin Group just shut down for 2 weeks. That means 1000s of teens and college kids w no jobs. Higher cc debt, student loan debt and jobs that really aren't showing increased wage growth.

                                              Seniors getting cuts in SS going forward and a worthless dollar make equities an investment by force...that's not a good sign.

                                              Bank stocks are a disaster....so I don't know what you could buy that's going to be risk free here.....

                                              I think the biggest rebound stocks might be casinos!
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                Some of these media people or so-called experts just want attention so they have the doom story
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                                                • stake1
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 12-19-18
                                                  • 18116

                                                  #25
                                                  Good time to wait. Then buy
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