Horse Racing Experts!

[SBR Genie]

Hi guys,

We are looking for horse racing experts to share their ideas with our team.

For anyone who is interested, please feel free to send us a message to our forum address forum@sportsbookreview.com or send me a direct private message.

We can give an extra betpoints for someone who can give us a good feedback!

[Easy-Rider 66]

NO expert here but what kind of ideas are you looking for. Thx.

[chico2663]

not an expert but have lost over250,000 or more to the ponies in my illustrious career. Ever want to hear of bad beats i.m me.

[SBR Genie]

NO expert here but what kind of ideas are you looking for. Thx.

You can share anything, Easy- Rider. You're one of the players I think of when creating this thread, I believed you love horse racing.

[SBR Genie]

not an expert but have lost over250,000 or more to the ponies in my illustrious career. Ever want to hear of bad beats i.m me.

Feel free to message us, Chico.

[Easy-Rider 66]

You can share anything, Easy- Rider. You're one of the players I think of when creating this thread, I believed you love horse racing.

OK Genie. Really like the game. If I think of anything will hit you back.

[SBR Genie]

OK Genie. Really like the game. If I think of anything will hit you back.

Thank you, Easy-Rider!

[pimike]

I know 2 guys. I’ll forward them this.

[pimike]

I know 2 guys. I’ll forward them this.

Brock ( Not Landers)
And
Blackbart

[SBR Genie]

Brock ( Not Landers)
And
Blackbart

Thank you, Mike. We will wait for their message.

[big joe 1212]

Guys, hanging out at tracks and OTB’s does not qualify you to be an expert.

[cincinnatikid513]

i am an expert at losing money at horses

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Guys, hanging out at tracks and OTB’s does not qualify you to be an expert.

Joey remember the good old days of Garden State Park and Atlantic City Racetrack

Genie you have my number

[littlekona]

since wagering has been moving more and more towards muti race wagers like pick 4-5-6 I would love to see some "community" tickets on some muti race wagers from some of the great posters/handicappers here.

another is i would like to see some posts of "beatable Chaks" we know there are many many bad chalks and to have some of the top guys here give a few of their bad favorites for day would be great esp if "laying" ever becomes available again

[Easy-Rider 66]

since wagering has been moving more and more towards muti race wagers like pick 4-5-6 I would love to see some "community" tickets on some muti race wagers from some of the great posters/handicappers here.

another is i would like to see some posts of "beatable Chaks" we know there are many many bad chalks and to have some of the top guys here give a few of their bad favorites for day would be great esp if "laying" ever becomes available again

Hey Kona: you seem like a sharp player. Would be cool to see you post more picks. GL.

[SBR Genie]

Don't forget to send us a message guys! forum@sportsbookreview.com

[jw]

I only play UK tracks nowadays, I also trade pre race and in-play using Betfair and Betdaq.
Happy to give feedback on UK if its needed.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

trytrytry would probably be helpful with this

[chidondollars]

Genie your crush is NBA and soccer expert,let me know if am needed

[SBR Genie]

Thank you guys, I already answered to some of you who PM'd me.

[SBR Genie]

Genie your crush is NBA and soccer expert,let me know if am needed

I will definitely remember this, Cin! Thank you.

[RudyRuetigger]

in my HUMBLE opinion, horse racing is for old guys


focus on new upcoming....EGAMES

[Alright Alright]

trytrytry


JimmytheBag

[jjgold]

Genie what do you want to know??

I am expert

[darrell74]

Bring Mohawk woodbine to the racebook

[chico2663]

good place to buy a horse and bring it to the states.

[eaglesfan371]

Can you please send an SBR agent to the Westgate for a couple weeks. Have him determine a couple sharps and interview them. Posts like this will only get the bums who wish with all their dreams they could be a professional gambler. Hell the addiction probably convinces them that they are, despite losing year over year.

Get SBR to be reputable again. Get someone who actually builds monte carlo simulations and models and has reputation. There are several podcasts that sharps do, the SBR one is a joke tbh.

Oh and finally, there are no sharps in horse racing. 15-20% hold? Just stop. Who the heck are you trying to attract to SBR? The degenerates gambling social security checks at the track daily??? Actually wait...SBR makes % of losses from referred players so actually yes...they do want those types.

[Easy-Rider 66]

Can you please send an SBR agent to the Westgate for a couple weeks. Have him determine a couple sharps and interview them. Posts like this will only get the bums who wish with all their dreams they could be a professional gambler. Hell the addiction probably convinces them that they are, despite losing year over year.

Get SBR to be reputable again. Get someone who actually builds monte carlo simulations and models and has reputation. There are several podcasts that sharps do, the SBR one is a joke tbh.

Oh and finally, there are no sharps in horse racing. 15-20% hold? Just stop. Who the heck are you trying to attract to SBR? The degenerates gambling social security checks at the track daily??? Actually wait...SBR makes % of losses from referred players so actually yes...they do want those types.

agree the rake is a killer. no doubt. Some of the sharks now swim in tourney play waters where rake is lower. About 11.5%. some guy just scored a 88K payday this past weekend on horse tourneys.

[10john10]

I’m an expert on betting on horses THAT get disqualified. Rare breed here

Hahah #VanquishVegas

[harthebar]

What are you after. I got plenty of thought

[littlekona]

rebates 7-14% DAILY or Monthly ALL BETS WIN or Lose
Carryovers on Multi Race Bets
Fixed odds the ability to back and Lay

You are right its a tough game but these are 3 points where you can lower the edge big time

[aggieshawn]

With the dust still settling from Maximum Security’s historic disqualification from the 2019 Kentucky Derby last June, trainer Jason Servis nearly had another controversy on his hands.


According to an indictment handed down Monday by the U.S. District Attorney’s Office of the Southern District of New York, which includes extensive allegations of Servis doping his horses with an illegal substance, Maximum Security had received a shot of SGF-1000 in the days leading up to his return race. But New Jersey regulators wanted a drug test.


The colt, already a winner of the Florida Derby (G1) and first across the wire in the Kentucky Derby, was to make his comeback in the June 16 Pegasus Stakes. In his system was a substance that, per the indictment, “is a customized (performance-enhancing drug) purportedly containing ‘growth factors.’”


Veterinarian Kristian Rhein, named as a defendant, reassured Servis, saying, “There’s no test for it in America.”

RELATED: Wests waiting to hear Servis' side of the story


Still, SGF-1000 could show up as a positive for the anti-inflammatory dexamethasone, more commonly referred to as “dex.” According to the indictment, Servis had another veterinarian falsify records saying Maximum Security was administered dex in case the test flagged it.


The Gary and Mary West homebred was beaten across the wire for the only time in his career in the Pegasus after a stumble at the break. Since then, he went on to earn the Eclipse Award 3-year-old championship with victories in the Haskell (G1) and Cigar Mile (G1). On Feb. 29, Maximum Security debuted as an older horse with a victory in the $20 million Saudi Cup overseas.


As the Wests continued to fight the legalities of the first Kentucky Derby disqualification for interference in the race’s history, Servis was allegedly drugging his star colt.


Servis’ misdoings may have come on federal investigators’ radar when they looked into fellow trainer Jorge Navarro, who the U.S. District Attorney’s Office says conducted a “widespread scheme” to obtain, conceal and use illegal substances on his racehorses.


On March 5, 2019, a call between Servis and Navarro was intercepted during which, according to the indictment, Servis recommended SGF-1000 to Navarro.


“I’ve been using it on everything almost,” Servis said, according to the indictment.


Navarro said he had more than a dozen horses using SGF-100. The conversation didn't last much longer.

"Jay, we'll sit down and talk about this s---," Navarro said. "I don’t want to talk about this s--- on the phone, OK?"


In addition to stabling in New Jersey last summer, Maximum Security spent time in New York as connections mulled a run at the Travers Stakes (G1) at Saratoga. Accordingly, Servis’ New York-based assistant, Henry Argueta, is also named as a defendant in this case.


On May 8, 2019, investigators tapped into a conversation between Servis and Argueta about administering PEDs to World of Trouble, who the next month won Belmont Park’s Jaipur Invitational (G1) in his career finale.


To hide the use of PEDs in horses, Servis enlisted people such as Alexander Chan, who according to his LinkedIn profile has worked as a track veterinarian for the New York Racing Association since October of 2012. According to the indictment, Chan kept “false billing records that did not reflect drugs Chan had injected into racehorses under Servis’ control, and falsified his own prescription records” in an effort to conceal their use from investigators.


There were close calls, too.


Documents detail a Feb. 18, 2019, conversation via text message between Servis and Navarro. Servis warned his peer of a racing official near the barn where PEDs were stored and administered. In an intercepted call Navarro made later that day to another party, Navarro said, "He would've caught our asses f------ pumping and pumping and fuming every f------- horse (that) runs today.”


While legal outside of withdrawal times at racetracks, clenbuterol is another substance that appears in findings about Servis. Chan is said to have provided it to Servis’ horses with a valid prescription. Investigators also heard Servis and his assistant, Argueta, discussing “the illegality” of clenbuterol uses in a horse.


Recently, Hall of Fame finalist Mark Casse advocated for a total ban on the respiratory treatment which when used in excess can act as a steroid. In an op/ed published March 2 by The Thoroughbred Daily News, Casse wrote that clenbuterol “leads to unimaginable form reversals on a weekly basis,” something for which Servis is often chided about by gamblers.

In a July 2018 interview with Horse Racing Nation, Servis denied cheating while on a personal hot streak, winning at the time with 54 percent of starters at Monmouth Park and 49 percent at Belmont Park.


“People are talking a lot of s---,” Servis said, “and I’m really not happy about it.”


He defended his record, saying he spots horses carefully and can thus be expected to win more often.


“If I can’t be 3-1, I don’t really want to be in there,” Servis told Horse Racing Nation.

Indicted on two counts, Servis faces a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison.


That was months before Maximum Security debuted the following December at Gulfstream Park with a $16,000 claiming tag, then ascended to become the world’s best dirt horse in training.






Maximum Security

[Louisvillekid1]

Agree with Kona