What effect will the three batter minimum rule have on MLB scoring?

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  • JayLA
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    • 09-11-12
    • 7806

    #1
    What effect will the three batter minimum rule have on MLB scoring?
    If at all...

    In addition to the three-batter minimum for relief pitchers, other MLB rules to take effect in 2020 include 26-man rosters through Aug. 31 and a 15-day injured list for pitchers.
  • cincinnatikid513
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-23-17
    • 45360

    #2
    dont like this rule at all

    so much for left handed specalist
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    • slayer14
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      • 08-12-13
      • 22022

      #3
      Why bring in this rule
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      • cincinnatikid513
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 11-23-17
        • 45360

        #4
        wonder when they ban infield shefting because players cant hit the ball opposite field
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        • Otters27
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          • 07-14-07
          • 30760

          #5
          Wow dumbest rule they ever could have made. Pandering to the inpatient fan
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          • Fishhead
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            • 08-11-05
            • 40179

            #6
            Hopefully will never happen
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            • Mr KLC
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              • 12-19-07
              • 31097

              #7
              It's not going to make a difference in whether millennials start watching the game or not.
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              • FullStrength
                SBR High Roller
                • 11-05-14
                • 146

                #8
                The dumbest thing MLB did was bring in Instant Replay.
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                • slayer14
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                  • 08-12-13
                  • 22022

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                  wonder when they ban infield shefting because players cant hit the ball opposite field

                  Run scoring was not reduced really
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                  • JayLA
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-11-12
                    • 7806

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                    Hopefully will never happen
                    From what I understand
                    , It's already been Put in place
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                    • JoeCool20
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-31-18
                      • 4440

                      #11
                      Wow.I just don't like it. Putting in a lefty specialist to face a lefty batter late in the game

                      now means the pitcher will have to stay in and face at least 3 batters! I don't like it.


                      It is no different than making a rule saying a new QB in Football has to stay in and play 3 plays.

                      So if it was 4th and 1 and you sub out your QB for a guy to run the wildcat, then

                      if you get the 1st down, he has to stay in 3 plays and you can't sub back in your QB for 3 plays!

                      They'd never make that rule. And this one doesn't make sense to me either.
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                      • Big Bear
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 11-01-11
                        • 43253

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JayLA
                        probably not much at all.
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                        • Big Bear
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 11-01-11
                          • 43253

                          #13
                          Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                          wonder when they ban infield shefting because players cant hit the ball opposite field
                          that’s actually not true either.

                          many players can and do.

                          baseball always has been and always will be about adjustments and counter adjustments
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                          • pologq
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                            • 10-07-12
                            • 19899

                            #14
                            going to create a lot more mismatches now
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                            • 19th Hole
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                              • 03-22-09
                              • 18954

                              #15
                              Pussification of baseball.
                              If the games are to lengthy for the taste and lifestyle of the modern milquetoast
                              game-watchers (hardly fans), then let them stay home and watch 1/2 hour sitcoms.
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                              • cincinnatikid513
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 11-23-17
                                • 45360

                                #16
                                Originally posted by JoeCool20
                                Wow.I just don't like it. Putting in a lefty specialist to face a lefty batter late in the game

                                now means the pitcher will have to stay in and face at least 3 batters! I don't like it.


                                It is no different than making a rule saying a new QB in Football has to stay in and play 3 plays.

                                So if it was 4th and 1 and you sub out your QB for a guy to run the wildcat, then

                                if you get the 1st down, he has to stay in 3 plays and you can't sub back in your QB for 3 plays!

                                They'd never make that rule. And this one doesn't make sense to me either.
                                yah its a stupid rule if rhey wanted speed up game make a rule where pitcher has be ready when called in no warm up pitches, rhen rhey wouldnt even have go,commercial break whats gonna happen when reliever comes in gets shelled or cant throw a strike cant get an out ,,sorry he has stay in game even if hes doing terrible
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                                • Fishhead
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                                  • 08-11-05
                                  • 40179

                                  #17
                                  Complete fuking joke
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                                  • Fishhead
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                                    • 08-11-05
                                    • 40179

                                    #18
                                    What's preventing a reliever from faking an injury after one or two batters???
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                                    • Chi_archie
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-22-08
                                      • 63172

                                      #19
                                      It won't be that big of deal

                                      Relievers don't have to face the 3 batter minimum if they complete the inning

                                      so If a lefty specialist came in with 2 outs. He just needs that 1 out and then the next inning a new reliever can start the inning

                                      if there are 1 outs, he might get a double play, or he might just need to get two outs.

                                      if you are bringing in a guy with 0 outs, the majority of the time its not to just get that one lefty or one tough guy out, you typically are bringing in someone to hopefully complete the whole inning.
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                                      • JIBBBY
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 12-10-09
                                        • 83686

                                        #20
                                        Relievers gonna get lit up more with this rule.
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                                        • Chi_archie
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-22-08
                                          • 63172

                                          #21


                                          Short Relief Appearances
                                          Indians 42
                                          Nationals 31
                                          Cubs 30
                                          Cardinals 28
                                          Diamondbacks 27
                                          White Sox 25
                                          Dodgers 25
                                          Rays 24
                                          Reds 24
                                          Phillies 20
                                          Brewers 18
                                          Athletics 18
                                          Padres 18
                                          Braves 17
                                          Tigers 16
                                          Mets 16
                                          Blue Jays 15
                                          Rockies 15
                                          Royals 14
                                          Orioles 10
                                          Twins 10
                                          Marlins 10
                                          Mariners 8
                                          Angels 6
                                          Giants 6
                                          Pirates 5
                                          Rangers 4
                                          Yankees 3
                                          Red Sox 3
                                          Astros 1




                                          Short-Stint Standouts


                                          here is a breakdown of last year's team totals of how many times a reliever came in and faced two or less hitters and left before the inning ended, and the leaders in that filter by player.
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                                          • unde0087
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                                            • 03-27-08
                                            • 28958

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                            dont like this rule at all

                                            so much for left handed specalist
                                            Most of these so called "specialists" can't get a fukin out if they were facing a 90 year old grandma in a wheel chair. So then we have to watch the manager walk his fat ass out to the mound 5 times an inning and then wait another 10 minutes for each loser of an arm to warm up to pitch 4 pitches.
                                            I love baseball and I don't really care how long the games are. Hell if I go to a game I want it to last a longtime. But baseball was much better 20 years ago when pitchers actually could pitch. This seeing 15 pitchers warm up per game because no one can get an out when they are supposed to be a "specialist" for this and that. It is embarrassing and quite frankly needs to be taken from the game, IMO.
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                                            • rm18
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                                              • 09-20-05
                                              • 22291

                                              #23
                                              They will just face one batter then flop or fake strokes it will take longer.
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                                              • DrunkHorseplayer
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-15-10
                                                • 7719

                                                #24
                                                It's a great rule and about time; I like the change in Sept. rosters to 28 even more.
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                                                • Chi_archie
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-22-08
                                                  • 63172

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by unde0087
                                                  Most of these so called "specialists" can't get a fukin out if they were facing a 90 year old grandma in a wheel chair.
                                                  There are literally only 10 guys in the entire league last year that did this "Specialist" role 10 times or more last year

                                                  the leader, old man Oliver Perez had 19 short appearances but he had 48 Other appearances that wouldn't have been affected by the rule.

                                                  so even the most LOOGY guy in the league, would only be affected by this rule 28% of the time and he was way above the other leaders.
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                                                  • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 11-30-08
                                                    • 81450

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                    What's preventing a reliever from faking an injury after one or two batters???
                                                    They should put that motherfukker on the IR.
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                                                    • MinnesotaFats
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-18-10
                                                      • 14758

                                                      #27
                                                      Of MLB wants to speed up games have the strike zone be as it was 00s- 90s and get rid of warm- ups / TV timeouts between innings. Shave 30 minutes off each game.
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                                                      • Chi_archie
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-22-08
                                                        • 63172

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                        get rid of warm- ups / TV timeouts between innings. Shave 30 minutes off each game.
                                                        the TV contracts are Billions and Billions of dollars, some of them go for close to 10 more years. MLB can't just decided to speed up that portion and not have the alotted time for commercials or they would be in breach of contract and not get any new ones.

                                                        No baseball would be on TV anymore, especially regionally and a ticket would cost about 250,000 each with hot dogs at 25,000 just to keep a team's lights on
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                                                        • unde0087
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                                                          • 03-27-08
                                                          • 28958

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                          There are literally only 10 guys in the entire league last year that did this "Specialist" role 10 times or more last year

                                                          the leader, old man Oliver Perez had 19 short appearances but he had 48 Other appearances that wouldn't have been affected by the rule.

                                                          so even the most LOOGY guy in the league, would only be affected by this rule 28% of the time and he was way above the other leaders.
                                                          I am not just talking about "Specialists". I am referring to the massive rise in pitchers per game in baseball. Bullpens and how they are used, these days, are a real problem for the game. Again, I don't really care how long games are. I will watch every Mets game I can, whether the game is 3 hours long or 5.
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                                                          • Big Bear
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 11-01-11
                                                            • 43253

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                            Relievers gonna get lit up more with this rule.
                                                            quite possibly
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                                                            • cybersharp
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 04-17-20
                                                              • 244

                                                              #31
                                                              I think it's an excellent rule. Sometimes baseball managers over-think these
                                                              pitcher/batter matchups, to the detriment of the game. The limiting of managers'
                                                              mound visits is ANOTHER huge step forward.

                                                              Build your pitching staffs to include guys who can demonstrate an ability to get
                                                              BOTH RH & LH hitters out. It ain't that goddamn hard!

                                                              I am reminded of the Cubs' World Series victory a few years ago....in one game,
                                                              ONE SINGLE INNING LASTED AN HOUR!

                                                              Ridiculous.

                                                              This sport has had a TWENTY SECOND PITCH CLOCK for absolutely forever. Too
                                                              bad they're too lame to enforce it.
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                                                              • SBR_Guest_Pro
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-10-15
                                                                • 3955

                                                                #32
                                                                this is a joke
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                                                                • stevenash
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                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 65661

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                                  wonder when they ban infield shefting because players cant hit the ball opposite field
                                                                  A professional hitter that gets paid millions to play for pay should be able to hit to all fields or go to the minors and learn.
                                                                  I could see an exception for a hitter with exceptional power and by exceptional I mean 50 HR a year power.

                                                                  When I played I had trouble going to the opposite field but I spent several hours a week in the cage learning how to wait on the pitch and transferring the weight to the back foot and all that, I became a decent opposite field hitter, not great, but decent.

                                                                  I'm sorry but I maintain that if you can't go opposite field in the pros you better learn.
                                                                  Same goes for bunting, if your'e not that 50 HR a year guy, learn how to bunt and move the runner over.
                                                                  The game hasn't changed in 150 years, you can't win if you don't score, move the runners along.
                                                                  Look at the 2015 KC Royals, they won a ring playing move the runner along ball.
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                                                                  • Kermit
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                                                                    • 09-27-10
                                                                    • 32555

                                                                    #34
                                                                    All they have to do is fake an injury. NFL players do it all of the time to save time outs.
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                                                                    • sosawestbrook
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-10-16
                                                                      • 3135

                                                                      #35
                                                                      great rule. this will weed out the weak pitchers who feasted off same sided hitters for a while in the league. they must now add to their arsenal of weapons or they will die off. also bails out managers who like to do too much with the substitutions, like Roberts, often shooting themselves in the foot with such decisions anyway.
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