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  • jjgold
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    • 07-20-05
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    #106
    Working people get penalized to support lazy people
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    • EmpireMaker
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      • 06-18-09
      • 15582

      #107
      Originally posted by guitarjosh
      The only problem is he isn't proposing the Nordic model. In that model, the non rich share a much bigger share of the ta burden than they do in America now and in Bernie's utopian vision. Bernie is proposing a land where 95% of the population is taken care of by 5%.
      Bullshit, our tax money goes to Weapons companies, insurance companies, billionaires tax cuts. Bernie is going to spend the tax money
      to benefit all of the people that pay the taxes. Healthcare for all of us (no more premiums, co-pays, deductibles), better schools for our kids, improved infrastructure, a shift to green energy that will help to save our planet and create good paying jobs for the middle class. Paid for by Billionaires paying their fair share, health insurance companies out of the equation, small transaction tax on day traders, cutting back military budget, getting out of imperialistic regime change wars, ensuring working folks wages that can afford to pay for rent, food, new clothes, maybe saving up to buy a house, these new wages will cause rounds of spending in our economy which will boost the economy in a sustainable way.
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      • EmpireMaker
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        • 06-18-09
        • 15582

        #108
        Right Now, Working people are supporting Billionaires and Oil companies, Weapons Manufactures, Health Insurance companies bottom lines, far more than they are supporting "lazy people". Are people that work 70-80 hours a week at low wage jobs just to eat and keep a roof over their heads lazy ? Are Senior citizens that paid into Social Security and Medicaid throughout their entire careers and want now what they paid for when they are too old to work any more, "Lazy" ???

        Originally posted by jjgold
        Working people get penalized to support lazy people
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        • guitarjosh
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          • 12-25-07
          • 5797

          #109
          Originally posted by EmpireMaker
          Bullshit, our tax money goes to Weapons companies, insurance companies, billionaires tax cuts. Bernie is going to spend the tax money
          to benefit all of the people that pay the taxes. Healthcare for all of us (no more premiums, co-pays, deductibles), better schools for our kids, improved infrastructure, a shift to green energy that will help to save our planet and create good paying jobs for the middle class. Paid for by Billionaires paying their fair share, health insurance companies out of the equation, small transaction tax on day traders, cutting back military budget, getting out of imperialistic regime change wars, ensuring working folks wages that can afford to pay for rent, food, new clothes, maybe saving up to buy a house, these new wages will cause rounds of spending in our economy which will boost the economy in a sustainable way.
          Well you can parrot the talking points, but you're completely wrong. Turns out that America already has the most progressive tax code in the world, and if we're going to be more like Sweden, we'll have to lower the tax burden on the rich and raise it on everyone else:

          I don't know any country health care system anywhere where there are no direct costs to the consumer. All of them have some form of premiums, co-pays or deductibles.

          You ought to check this one out too, it shows that the top 20% of American income earners are the only income quintile to have their share of the tax burden be higher than their share of the income, and you still think they're taking too much and not giving enough! https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fi...ap-mt7_rUGHxns
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          • khicks26
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            • 09-16-06
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            #110
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            • DABOOK
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              • 03-02-11
              • 3662

              #111
              Originally posted by guitarjosh
              Well you can parrot the talking points, but you're completely wrong. Turns out that America already has the most progressive tax code in the world, and if we're going to be more like Sweden, we'll have to lower the tax burden on the rich and raise it on everyone else:

              I don't know any country health care system anywhere where there are no direct costs to the consumer. All of them have some form of premiums, co-pays or deductibles.

              You ought to check this one out too, it shows that the top 20% of American income earners are the only income quintile to have their share of the tax burden be higher than their share of the income, and you still think they're taking too much and not giving enough! https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fi...ap-mt7_rUGHxns
              Now add up those countries military spending and you will see why we are getting ripped off. The last people to seriously attack us used box cutters and mace on an airplane. Not sure we need higher % of money now after cold war cuban missile crisis is over.

              Shite. I still dont think we should have been bailing out Saudi Arabia when Saddam went to Kuwait in 1993.
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              • RoyBacon
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                • 09-21-05
                • 37074

                #112
                Originally posted by DABOOK
                Now add up those countries military spending and you will see why we are getting ripped off. The last people to seriously attack us used box cutters and mace on an airplane. Not sure we need higher % of money now after cold war cuban missile crisis is over.

                Shite. I still dont think we should have been bailing out Saudi Arabia when Saddam went to Kuwait in 1993.
                Wow, talk about weaving to a new diversion.

                I guess the talk of needing a tax hike on the millionaires and billionaires died a quiet death. Up this sleeve is....wait for it....military spending!
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                • DABOOK
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                  • 03-02-11
                  • 3662

                  #113
                  Originally posted by RoyBacon
                  Wow, talk about weaving to a new diversion.

                  I guess the talk of needing a tax hike on the millionaires and billionaires died a quiet death. Up this sleeve is....wait for it....military spending!
                  I got 1000 post here against the military ripping us off. I am also against billionaires Bezos and walmart waltons.

                  Too much fumes from welding ? Too much time on SBR. Turning your brain to mush. Go outside. Get some air.
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                  • RoyBacon
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                    • 09-21-05
                    • 37074

                    #114
                    Originally posted by DABOOK
                    I got 1000 post here against the military ripping us off. I am also against billionaires Bezos and walmart waltons.

                    Too much fumes from welding ? Too much time on SBR. Turning your brain to mush. Go outside. Get some air.
                    The irony? You same tards were criticizing The Man of the People for insisting that our beloved "friends" pay their fair share of defense. Then the same retards complain we spend too much. You really can't make this retardedness up.

                    America has lost it's backbone. Trump was a God-send but we need an even tougher Man of the People.

                    I agree, we spend double what we should. If our "friends" would pay their fair share we could cut our military budget in half.
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                    • jjgold
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                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #115
                      Lol democrats weak bastards
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                      • Sam Odom
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                        • 10-30-05
                        • 58063

                        #116
                        Bernie might win the DEM's whole enchilada
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                        • 15805
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                          • 06-10-12
                          • 3604

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Sam Odom
                          Bernie might win the DEM's whole enchilada
                          Bernie -395 at Bookmaker & -320 at 5dimes. Dems in a really weird campaign season with
                          2 now two leaders for the nomination are Bernie & Bloomy.

                          Bloomy first became mayor of NY running as a Republican leaving heavily on the endorsement of Giuliani now president
                          Trump's personal attorney to win that post, trumpeting his support of Rudy by chastising his Democratic
                          opponent for being 'no friend of Rudi Giuliani'! Furthermore he formally endorsed George Bush in 2004 &
                          contributed heavily the McCain in 2008.

                          As a Democratic candidate for president, he makes an excellent Republican donor.

                          Bernie is an Independent not a democrat either although he caucus with the Dems in the Senate.
                          Certainly most of Bernie's supporters have little allegiance to the Democratic party & will bolt
                          the party if Bloomberg becomes the nominee. I'd say the doctrinaire Democrat voter have a confusing
                          situation to deal with.


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                          • Sam Odom
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                            • 10-30-05
                            • 58063

                            #118
                            Bloomberg is floating Hillary as his VP

                            guy is desperate
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                            • 15805
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                              • 06-10-12
                              • 3604

                              #119
                              Originally posted by Sam Odom
                              Bloomberg is floating Hillary as his VP

                              guy is desperate
                              If he really intends to put Hillary on the ticket he better employ a food taster if he wins.
                              Mrs. Clinton craves the presidency more than starving Pit Bulls crave meaty bones.
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                              • stacyleighhanson
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                                • 11-02-19
                                • 1109

                                #120
                                Yeah Biden's best bet anyway is to skip over Nevada and go straight for the southern states where he's strong with the African American vote. Nevada should easily go to Bernie.
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                                • jjgold
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                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #121
                                  Nevada pure trash like Bernie

                                  Nothing new
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                                  • louisvillekid
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                                    • 08-14-07
                                    • 9262

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                    I like Bernie but his damn policies are to far left and completely unsustainable and or realistic. Everyone wants freebies and free healthcare but how are you gonna pay for that Bernie? Dems and Obama tried it already with Obamacare and we all know how that worked out.
                                    The country didn't go broke getting more people access to healthcare. The deficit was shrinking.
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                                    • louisvillekid
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                                      • 08-14-07
                                      • 9262

                                      #123
                                      I'm sure all the betting people for the Nevada primary/caucus, are aware that a woman who was employed by the Buttigeig Iowa caucus campaign was recently hired by the Democratic Party of Nevada as some Voter Security Fraud Integrity person, or some ridiculous bs.
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                                      • guitarjosh
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                                        • 12-25-07
                                        • 5797

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by DABOOK
                                        Now add up those countries military spending and you will see why we are getting ripped off. The last people to seriously attack us used box cutters and mace on an airplane. Not sure we need higher % of money now after cold war cuban missile crisis is over.

                                        Shite. I still dont think we should have been bailing out Saudi Arabia when Saddam went to Kuwait in 1993.
                                        I agree we spend to much on the military, but you're getting off topic. The issue is that despite claiming that you just want to be more like Sweden, you don't want to tax the way Sweden does. They have a much more regressive tax code that basically makes people pay for their benefits, while you're trying to create a land where 95% is taken care of by 5%.
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                                        • thomorino
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                                          • 06-01-17
                                          • 45842

                                          #125
                                          The media doesnt like to remind people of the millions Obama deported but Hispanics remember, which is a big part of the reason Biden isn't as strong in the Latino community.
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                                          • louisvillekid
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                                            • 08-14-07
                                            • 9262

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by thomorino
                                            The media doesnt like to remind people of the millions Obama deported but Hispanics remember, which is a big part of the reason Biden isn't as strong in the Latino community.
                                            Yeh, it was like 18 million or so. Obama did it the slick way by not making it a big scene and bragging about it to appease a certain base of people.
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                                            • khicks26
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                                              • 09-16-06
                                              • 45704

                                              #127
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                                              • Fishhead
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                                                • 08-11-05
                                                • 40179

                                                #128
                                                Bernie is a fruitloop

                                                Lets be honest
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                                                • Sam Odom
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                                                  • 10-30-05
                                                  • 58063

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by Fishhead


                                                  Bernie is a fruitloop

                                                  Lets be honest


                                                  -FH- is SBR's Greater Las Vegas on the ground Reporter
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                                                  • darrell74
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                                                    • 04-16-07
                                                    • 14648

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                    LOL how the fukk could a socialist win in a State w no income tax?
                                                    Las Vegas is plagued with relocated Californians dems.
                                                    State has gone all blue
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                                                    • rkelly110
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                                                      • 10-05-09
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                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                      The irony? You same tards were criticizing The Man of the People for insisting that our beloved "friends" pay their fair share of defense. Then the same retards complain we spend too much. You really can't make this retardedness up.

                                                      America has lost it's backbone. Trump was a God-send but we need an even tougher Man of the People.

                                                      I agree, we spend double what we should. If our "friends" would pay their fair share we could cut our military budget in half.
                                                      In another universe with a person who will follow through, not with this ass wipe.
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                                                      • thomorino
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                                                        • 06-01-17
                                                        • 45842

                                                        #132
                                                        Heritage has now moved Bernie in Nevada to -300.
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                                                        • RoyBacon
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                                                          • 09-21-05
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                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                          In another universe with a person who will follow through, not with this ass wipe.
                                                          How did the last ass wipe do?

                                                          If Trump was a Dem you would consider him the best POTUS ever.
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                                                          • jjgold
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                                                            • 07-20-05
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                                                            #134
                                                            If you vote
                                                            For sanders you have to be a 10x loser
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                                                            • Sam Odom
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                                                              • 10-30-05
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                                                              #135
                                                              Libs fave Pollster: fivethirtyeight


                                                              Nevada

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                                                              • EmpireMaker
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                                                                • 06-18-09
                                                                • 15582

                                                                #136
                                                                Your a rube that believes every GOP talking point and EVERY lie Trump throws out there.
                                                                Amazon paid ZERO taxes last year they actually paid negative taxes (got money from the government).

                                                                Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                                Well you can parrot the talking points, but you're completely wrong. Turns out that America already has the most progressive tax code in the world, and if we're going to be more like Sweden, we'll have to lower the tax burden on the rich and raise it on everyone else:

                                                                I don't know any country health care system anywhere where there are no direct costs to the consumer. All of them have some form of premiums, co-pays or deductibles.

                                                                You ought to check this one out too, it shows that the top 20% of American income earners are the only income quintile to have their share of the tax burden be higher than their share of the income, and you still think they're taking too much and not giving enough! https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fi...ap-mt7_rUGHxns
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                                                                • rkelly110
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                                                                  • 10-05-09
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                                  How did the last ass wipe do?

                                                                  If Trump was a Dem you would consider him the best POTUS ever.
                                                                  I seem to remember the last one getting us out of a deep recession while your boy is working hard to put us right back in one. Yes, it's coming.
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                                                                  • EmpireMaker
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                                                                    • 06-18-09
                                                                    • 15582

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Why are you using 2011 charts, is it because you are a deceptive liar like Trump ???? The Trump Tax Scam gave Massive tax breaks to Billionaires and Large corporations, you probably knew that already though, that is why you used a 2011 chart or maybe you are just a sucker that buys everything the corrupt GOP throws out there.

                                                                    Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                                    Well you can parrot the talking points, but you're completely wrong. Turns out that America already has the most progressive tax code in the world, and if we're going to be more like Sweden, we'll have to lower the tax burden on the rich and raise it on everyone else:

                                                                    I don't know any country health care system anywhere where there are no direct costs to the consumer. All of them have some form of premiums, co-pays or deductibles.

                                                                    You ought to check this one out too, it shows that the top 20% of American income earners are the only income quintile to have their share of the tax burden be higher than their share of the income, and you still think they're taking too much and not giving enough! https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fi...ap-mt7_rUGHxns
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                                                                    • EmpireMaker
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 06-18-09
                                                                      • 15582

                                                                      #139
                                                                      There is a vehement and polarized debate going on in this country about our budget deficit.
                                                                      One side argues that America's taxes (revenue) are already much too high and that the budget problem is "just a spending problem."
                                                                      The other side, meanwhile, argues that the deficit is the result of a combination of factors, including economic growth being too slow, spending being too high, and taxes being too low.
                                                                      Obviously, this is a philosophical argument more than anything else.
                                                                      The conservative side of this argument believes that the government should not support poorer, older, sick, or out-of-work Americans--and, therefore, that we should cut a huge portion of our government spending.
                                                                      The liberal side, meanwhile, thinks America should continue to support poorer, older, sick, and out-of-work Americans--and, therefore, that we should continue to have the government spend on these programs.
                                                                      Reasonable people can disagree philosophically.
                                                                      And it is certainly worth having an ongoing national conversation about what sort of country we want America to be.
                                                                      But one fact should be kept in mind during this argument.
                                                                      America is NOT a high-tax country.
                                                                      In fact, America is a relatively LOW-tax country, when compared to almost all other developed countries in the world.
                                                                      What those who are saying that America should continue to cut taxes are arguing, therefore, is that America's government should provide far fewer services than the governments of most developed countries do.
                                                                      Don't believe it?
                                                                      Take a look at these charts.
                                                                      They're from an excellent new KPMG report on global tax rates.
                                                                      These charts are based on 2012 taxes, and some U.S. taxes have increased since 2012, but the U.S. will still rank relatively low.
                                                                      Before you look, here are some key points:
                                                                      • These charts include Social Security taxes. They're the blue part of the bars.
                                                                      • These charts include state taxes (KPMG used New York State tax rates, which are relatively high).
                                                                      • These charts do not income capital gains taxes, which, in the US, are quite low. So, in terms of overall taxation, the US's global ranking may actually be overstated.
                                                                      • These charts do not include "VAT" taxes that appear in many other developed countries. They also don't include state sales taxes, which can be viewed as the same thing as a VAT tax.

                                                                      So here you go.
                                                                      For those who make $100,000 a year, the U.S. is the 55th-ranked country in terms of total taxes (click for larger):

                                                                      KPMG For those who make $300,000 a year, meanwhile, U.S. rates rates are a little more punitive. For these folks, the U.S. is the 53rd highest ranked country:

                                                                      KPMG
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                                                                      • EmpireMaker
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 06-18-09
                                                                        • 15582

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Rates in my article are BEFORE the Trump Tax Scam.
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