PA now has seven sports books

[thomorino]

The only book that doesn't process PayPal withdrawals is parx, ridiculous, every other pa book does.

[jjgold]

Bet American not bad

My only complaint is ML betting juice is very wide

[stevex]

Offshore has constant reload bonuses and better lines.

[CanuckG]

BetAmerica has awesome odds for the Daytona 500.

There has not been a book that even comes close to 5Dimes for low juice on NASCAR win markets since The Greek closed.





(bold means odds are best in entire market)

Nice info here

[jjgold]

Offshore has constant reload bonuses and better lines.

Yes much bigger ones than USA

BetAmerica stand alone which is good unlike many PA books that have the same lines

[Natty68]

Agree with opti here. Once they figure out the ones that actually know what they're doing the sledding will get a lot tougher. I'm already hearing rumblings along those lines with Will Hill in Rhode Island. The worst part is I can see some states making it not worth it for great offshores to offer services there so then you won't have those outs either. Offshore still best with bitcoin payouts being so seamless and easy.

[jjgold]

It’s seems like 60-40 vote offshore overall


Pa books love making spreads -112

[Believe_EMT]

think we are up to 12 books, 8 of them online/mobile. the lack of a reload bonus of any sort indeed sucks.

Parx, DK (meadows), Unibet, Rivers and Sugarhous all use same odds service. so you just need a single account with one of them. Unibet had a friggin fantastic 50% bonus on a single wager daily with $50 max and they fukkers ended it. simple way to Arb few thousand bucks a year. dikks.

Fox Bet (mount airy) and Fanduel (valley forge) seem to offer the best lines on most things, but they lack enough offerings at times.

so for now i'm just using those three, Fox, DK and FD, although will probably add Bet America to the mix soon.

Hollywood was supposedly teaming up with William Hill, but i don't see any mobile or online presence yet.

Unibet is the worst for college hoops, friggin 28 cent lines?! c'mon fukks.

[jjgold]

EMT summed it very well

[Mrtop7]

usa books a money maker

they are ripping people off with juice but gamblers do not care

Take free stuff and NEVER BET THERE

resorts new jersey reduced vig 16 cents nba and ncaa

[Crusherrr]

Amazing how in NJ Betamerica gives $1,000 risk free bet with 5x rollover. PA only gets $100 match bonus and $25 free play. How lame.

[CanuckG]

Amazing how in NJ Betamerica gives $1,000 risk free bet with 5x rollover. PA only gets $100 match bonus and $25 free play. How lame.

Betamerica's 1k risk free A+ promo

[thomorino]

Betamerica's 1k risk free A+ promo

Doesn't surprise me there is far more competition I new jersey right now.

[matrix1022]

My buddy and I took I ride. Open all and got all bonuses Bet both sides and made roughy 800 for the ride. Good deal but long day but worth it !

[Crusherrr]

My buddy and I took I ride. Open all and got all bonuses Bet both sides and made roughy 800 for the ride. Good deal but long day but worth it !

Should have done NJ. You could have made 4x that amount.

[jjgold]

would’ve made the same or more
Betting one side

[Believe_EMT]

Pa books love making spreads -112

i'm actually pretty concerned about MLB lines being too shate to make money

these books have some good rewards program for constant action though.

[thetrinity]

Unibet pa has a bonus this weekend deposit 100 get 50 25x rollover lmao. What a fuckin joke

[thomorino]

Unibet pa has a bonus this weekend deposit 100 get 50 25x rollover lmao. What a fuckin joke

Yeah that is bad, sugar House and betrivers usually just have a. 1x rollover on bonus money.

[thetrinity]

Yeah that is bad, sugar House and betrivers usually just have a. 1x rollover on bonus money.

Yeah usually they do. As a comparison bovada has 500 for 250 bonus 10x so you have to bet 7500, unibet you have to bet 3750 for a whole extra 50 bucks. That’s as bad as foxbets nfl playoff promo 12k for 600. A 5x should be the max on that one from unibet. It’s actually an insult to even offer that.

[jjgold]

Bonuses terrible Nj and pa

[rodgethat]

Making a trip down to New Jersey and figured i might as well clear the welcome bonuses while i am there.
Can i deposit to every app in person at the casino cages or should i be prepared to have lots of $$ on paypal before i go?

Thanks for the help

[jjgold]

You can deposit in person

[Fishhead]

PA down the list as best states for sportsbetting here on the mainland.

Current top three...….

NEVADA
IOWA
JERSEY

[jjgold]

Lines are terrible pa

40-60 money lines

It’s the same as uk

[rodgethat]

To collect the sign up bonuses should i bet the other side with offshore books? Or is it pretty safe to bet the other side with another bonus book? Not sure if they would be able to find out you are arbing the bonuses if you bet with another casino book in New Jersey.

[jjgold]

Lose a lot of juice money betting other side

Pa lines too wide to break even other side

[im over here now]

Crying over -112 vs -108?

Stating US books will limit?

1-Offshore moving to crypto based deposit, what wouldn’t they no take backs..Yet your paying at least a combined fee of 8% to deposit and withdraw with crypto.. So that -104-108 juice is really -112-116.. Add in what ever % you want having to sweat your online withdraw and US books are neck and neck if not in front..

2- Limits. A+ book just limited me on in Game NBA.. 100 dollar max in game bet.. No book wants winners around online or USA

3-Black Friday is coming to offshore.. Be warned.. Online books are going to start to bleed money.. Keep balances low, because 85-90% are going down in about 5 years.. Crying to SBR isn’t going to help “..

[Crusherrr]

Crying over -112 vs -108?

Stating US books will limit?

1-Offshore moving to crypto based deposit, what wouldn’t they no take backs..Yet your paying at least a combined fee of 8% to deposit and withdraw with crypto.. So that -104-108 juice is really -112-116.. Add in what ever % you want having to sweat your online withdraw and US books are neck and neck if not in front..

2- Limits. A+ book just limited me on in Game NBA.. 100 dollar max in game bet.. No book wants winners around online or USA

3-Black Friday is coming to offshore.. Be warned.. Online books are going to start to bleed money.. Keep balances low, because 85-90% are going down in about 5 years.. Crying to SBR isn’t going to help “..

US books are total trash besides bonuses.

Combined 8% to deposit and withdraw? Wrong. Unless you are a degen who is buying bitcoin $100 at a time. My combined fees were always around 1% and considering books are giving 20% cash or better rates for simply using bitcoin you more than make up for it. Plus the majority of people using bitcoin for betting have made money by simply holding it at one point or another.

I'm sure some sites will be weeded out but the bonus offers are going to keep getting better, odds will get better and offshore will almost definitely continue as we know it. I place $1000+ bets on many sites daily. I tried getting a $500 bet down on an NFL game at a casino and they wanted to know source of income, etc etc. That's not any of their business.

The guys betting $5-$25 a game may be happy betting into high juice. The guys who are betting big or wanting a fair price won't even consider it.

[jjgold]

Crusher

[im over here now]

US books are total trash besides bonuses.

Combined 8% to deposit and withdraw? Wrong. Unless you are a degen who is buying bitcoin $100 at a time. My combined fees were always around 1% and considering books are giving 20% cash or better rates for simply using bitcoin you more than make up for it. Plus the majority of people using bitcoin for betting have made money by simply holding it at one point or another.

I'm sure some sites will be weeded out but the bonus offers are going to keep getting better, odds will get better and offshore will almost definitely continue as we know it. I place $1000+ bets on many sites daily. I tried getting a $500 bet down on an NFL game at a casino and they wanted to know source of income, etc etc. That's not any of their business.

The guys betting $5-$25 a game may be happy betting into high juice. The guys who are betting big or wanting a fair price won't even consider it.

No matter if they deposit 100, or 10000 4% fee is 4% fee math doesn’t change...
Curious about that 1%.. Where at? I don’t do coinbase too IRS friendly..

20% give back comes with strings.. And those string are getting worse for the player every day..

You holding Bitcoin and making money is another issue.. Better hope it does crash 50% like a couple of years ago..

Don’t know where you bet but the shithole in Erie Pa has never asked for ID or income when placing bets over 500..

[im over here now]

US books are total trash besides bonuses.

Combined 8% to deposit and withdraw? Wrong. Unless you are a degen who is buying bitcoin $100 at a time. My combined fees were always around 1% and considering books are giving 20% cash or better rates for simply using bitcoin you more than make up for it. Plus the majority of people using bitcoin for betting have made money by simply holding it at one point or another.

I'm sure some sites will be weeded out but the bonus offers are going to keep getting better, odds will get better and offshore will almost definitely continue as we know it. I place $1000+ bets on many sites daily. I tried getting a $500 bet down on an NFL game at a casino and they wanted to know source of income, etc etc. That's not any of their business.

The guys betting $5-$25 a game may be happy betting into high juice. The guys who are betting big or wanting a fair price won't even consider it.

Laughable about betting big do it online.. These guys must not be big time...https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/i...otal-prop-bets

Cali New York and Florida join the fun.. Game over.. Online served its purpose.. No need now

[jjgold]

I bet -105 lines everything heritage
Only use all free stuff USA books

Save 30 -50 cents many dog money lines offshore vs USA

[Crusherrr]

No matter if they deposit 100, or 10000 4% fee is 4% fee math doesn’t change...
Curious about that 1%.. Where at? I don’t do coinbase too IRS friendly..

20% give back comes with strings.. And those string are getting worse for the player every day..

You holding Bitcoin and making money is another issue.. Better hope it does crash 50% like a couple of years ago..

Don’t know where you bet but the shithole in Erie Pa has never asked for ID or income when placing bets over 500..

I've never paid anything close to 4% in fees when buying bitcoin or selling. Not even half of that. I can also usually buy at discount as I have lots of poker friends constantly swapping. Obviously bonuses have rollovers. But if you know what you are doing rollovers are meaningless.

I've placed live wagers in NY and NJ. You had to go to the counter to place $500 bets or more. When I was in NJ they didn't even have kiosks to bet at in Ballys.

[Optional]

No matter if they deposit 100, or 10000 4% fee is 4% fee math doesn’t change...
Curious about that 1%.. Where at? I don’t do coinbase too IRS friendly..

Even Coinbase only charges 2,49% each way for full service, or way less on Coinbase Pro.

But you can only say it costs X% if you are actually buying bitcoin for every bet and selling it again after every win.

If you want to play like that, and pay 8% to avoid legal responsibilities, how can you point fingers at the system as the problem?