Trump to win Presidency prop now at -150

[khicks26]

It really is a good test of whether or not someone has a grip on what's been happening here, on whether or not there is a clue of the pulse of the country.

"If Bernie had won the nomination, he would have beat Trump."

Agree, or disagree?

Anyone who thinks that it is remotely possible, I would suggest, has a narrow view of the pulse of the country and the electoral college.

Extremely narrow. Also, probably not on point with critical thinking when dealing with statistics, at least for this topic.

Were do live? Where do you fall in the economic status of society? So you know enough to speak for everyone across all classes?

That kind of narrow thinking wouldn't you say?

[KVB]

Many people didn't vote. 1/2 the country. Some that did vote left the presidential spot blank. People hated both Trump & Hillary, Sanders would have given them something to vote for...

N offense, but I dare say it's a good thing you weren't running the DNC when they were unfairly fixing the nomination for a candidate, you might have made this even worse for them...

[khicks26]

We know that trump won pa, mich and wisc by a combined 77,000 votes. That’s with the “lock her up” lie, Russian assistance, idiots relying on Facebook for news. Anybody but Hillary would have beaten trump, including Bernie. The Comey announcement and the widespread lies about Clinton was the death of her. Trumptards should carry Comey around on their shoulders.

All relevant facts.

[JohnGalt2341]

It really is a good test of whether or not someone has a grip on what's been happening here, on whether or not there is a clue of the pulse of the country.

"If Bernie had won the nomination, he would have beat Trump."

Agree, or disagree?

Anyone who thinks that it is remotely possible, I would suggest, has a narrow view of the pulse of the country and the electoral college.

Extremely narrow. Also, probably not on point with critical thinking when dealing with statistics, at least for this topic.

My answer is I DON'T KNOW.

If you're suggesting that Trump would have definitely beat Bernie... you're no better than the people that suggest that Bernie would have definitely beat Trump.

NOBODY KNOWS. That's the only objective answer.

[khicks26]

Bernie would be crushed in the electoral college. Dims know that and are already plotting.

Socialism is a no go.

I hope we get to find out.

[vitterd]

If Trump and Bernie were to take a head to head IQ test. What would you set the line at?

I don't think most voters care about intelligence much... if at all. If they did, Buttigieg would be the front-runner right now.

Instead... I think most voters vote for who they most identify with. This is very evident in the political forum on SBR. Virtually all the Trump supporters over there act just like Trump.

Trump is not bright. His supporters are very dim. Trump is smart that he knows his audience is dumb. Those people at his rallies, trump wouldnt piss on them if they were on fire.

[khicks26]

N offense, but I dare say it's a good thing you weren't running the DNC when they were unfairly fixing the nomination for a candidate, you might have made this even worse for them...

You do know that all that red is still less people than the blue right?

[jjgold]

Lol

No president has ever done more in a three-year. Facts are facts let’s stop

[KVB]

Were do live? Where do you fall in the economic status of society? So you know enough to speak for everyone across all classes?

That kind of narrow thinking wouldn't you say?

I'm not speaking for anybody, and don't claim to.

Understand that we're getting there, but the country isn't lurching that far yet and certainly would not have in 2016. Be realistic, it didn't even have momentum. There was even a movement to stop Bernie within the Democratic pary itself.

Not to mention several campaigns worldwide have aided in stalling the movement on a more global level. All of them, including Trump's, were related.

Why even try to give Bernie a chance in 2016, his own party didn't. Unreal.

Maybe you are just trolling, or maybe you have a political preference and it's clouding the obvious for you, after all the notion for 2016 is pretty ridiculoius.

I'm not speaking from any type of political preference, maybe that's why it's hard to find any ground, even obvious ground, with the political posters. They are all so jaded with there own ideology.

[khicks26]

My answer is I DON'T KNOW.

If you're suggesting that Trump would have definitely beat Bernie... you're no better than the people that suggest that Bernie would have definitely beat Trump.

NOBODY KNOWS. That's the only objective answer.

OK lets put it this way. Who had a better chance of beating Trump in 2016 in your opinion. Bernie or Hillary?

[KVB]

You do know that all that red is still less people than the blue right?

You sound like another one who wants to hate the player. Try hating the game for once.

[KVB]

My answer is I DON'T KNOW.

If you're suggesting that Trump would have definitely beat Bernie... you're no better than the people that suggest that Bernie would have definitely beat Trump.

NOBODY KNOWS. That's the only objective answer.

My suggestion is that any poll Bernie would beat Trump is made in a world where Trump never campaigned against Bernie.

Acting like it's a toss up of some kind ignores so much.

Foolish to even bring it up, and to say "nobody knows" shows a gross lack of insight into what happened in the 2016 election.

That's what I'm suggesting.

[khicks26]

I'm not speaking for anybody, and don't claim to.

Understand that we're getting there, but the country isn't lurching that far yet and certainly would not have in 2016. Be realistic, it didn't even have momentum. There was even a movement to stop Bernie within the Democratic pary itself.

Not to mention several campaigns worldwide have aided in stalling the movement on a more global level. All of them, including Trump's, were related.

Why even try to give Bernie a chance in 2016, his own party didn't. Unreal.

Maybe you are just trolling, or maybe you have a political preference and it's clouding the obvious for you, after all the notion for 2016 is pretty ridiculoius.

I'm not speaking from any type of political preference, maybe that's why it's hard to find any ground, even obvious ground, with the political posters. They are all so jaded with there own ideology.

You do know that Sanders closed a 63% gap against Hillary & the party had to cheat to get her the win.


Yea Sanders is my guy, not trolling anyone. I'm just talking here.


By the way you post, I would say your preference is Trump. Yes you did speak for everyone.

[Optional]

Polls showed (A Fox News poll) that if Bernie got the nod in 16. He would have beat Trump. Bernie's problem is, he has to fight both parties Dem & Rep.

In 2016 maybe, but can imagine the attacks over being socialist might have taken him down too.

If Trump and Bernie were to take a head to head IQ test. What would you set the line at?

I don't think most voters care about intelligence much... if at all. If they did, Buttigieg would be the front-runner right now.

Instead... I think most voters vote for who they most identify with. This is very evident in the political forum on SBR. Virtually all the Trump supporters over there act just like Trump.

I'm guilty of thinking Trump was a bit dumb when it came to lots of subjects. But I think his IQ would probably turn out to be pretty high now in hindsight. Not that I like his tactics or his way, but it's become clear he really did have more of a plan than many realized and that what he wanted to happen really is happening in many areas.

Bernie obviously a smart guy too. But part of his appeal is his belief in his ideology, and when he gets questioned about it his answers too often come across as like someone relying on faith he is correct than having hard evidence to base his ideas on. I think he kind of waffles a lot basically. And if you aren't already behind him as a person, he comes across as a bit flaky. I am sure he is smart to have achieved what he has but he does not present well.

[khicks26]

You sound like another one who wants to hate the player. Try hating the game for once.

So what happens to this country is just a game for you? I don't hate anyone.

[JohnGalt2341]

N offense, but I dare say it's a good thing you weren't running the DNC when they were unfairly fixing the nomination for a candidate, you might have made this even worse for them...

Trump and his supporters are very proud of this map. It looks impressive. Trump won a lot of counties... approximately 84% of them I believe. Yet... he somehow lost the popular vote. What does this tell you? It tells you that Trump won all the rural areas... BUT... we know he didn't win the popular vote... so that means he lost the more densely populated areas. That's all this map says. That's it.

There's a theory that cities tend to attract more intelligent people because that's where good schools and good jobs tend to be. IF... this theory is true... it explains why Trump loves uneducated voters.

[JohnGalt2341]

OK lets put it this way. Who had a better chance of beating Trump in 2016 in your opinion. Bernie or Hillary?

I still don't know. Pre-election I would have said Hillary.

[khicks26]

My suggestion is that any poll Bernie would beat Trump is made in a world where Trump never campaigned against Bernie.

Acting like it's a toss up of some kind ignores so much.

Foolish to even bring it up, and to say "nobody knows" shows a gross lack of insight into what happened in the 2016 election.

That's what I'm suggesting.

Basically both Trump & Bernie were bricks that people wanted to throw at the DC establishment.

If you gave the people a choice of which brick to throw. IMO its Sanders.

Quote from a W.V voter. We knew that Trump was a Yankee that needed his ass beat a long time ago. But Hillary offered us nothing.

[JohnGalt2341]

My suggestion is that any poll Bernie would beat Trump is made in a world where Trump never campaigned against Bernie.

Acting like it's a toss up of some kind ignores so much.

Foolish to even bring it up, and to say "nobody knows" shows a gross lack of insight into what happened in the 2016 election.

That's what I'm suggesting.

I'm suggesting, to pretend to know the unknowable shows a lack of insight in understanding anything.

But we are on a sportsbetting forum... people pretend to know unknowable things all day every day. This is why we see clowns on here with "Guaranteed lock" type picks. They're completely broke but they pretend to know more than the sharpest sportsbooks that are worth billions. Makes perfect sense.

The Dunning Kruger effect is always running rampant on SBR.

[khicks26]

In 2016 maybe, but can imagine the attacks over being socialist might have taken him down too.




I'm guilty of thinking Trump was a bit dumb when it came to lots of subjects. But I think his IQ would probably turn out to be pretty high now in hindsight. Not that I like his tactics or his way, but it's become clear he really did have more of a plan than many realized and that what he wanted to happen really is happening in many areas.

Bernie obviously a smart guy too. But part of his appeal is his belief in his ideology, and when he gets questioned about it his answers too often come across as like someone relying on faith he is correct than having hard evidence to base his ideas on. I think he kind of waffles a lot basically. And if you aren't already behind him as a person, he comes across as a bit flaky. I am sure he is smart to have achieved what he has but he does not present well.

Trump and his supporters are very proud of this map. It looks impressive. Trump won a lot of counties... approximately 84% of them I believe. Yet... he somehow lost the popular vote. What does this tell you? It tells you that Trump won all the rural areas... BUT... we know he didn't win the popular vote... so that means he lost the more densely populated areas. That's all this map says. That's it.

There's a theory that cities tend to attract more intelligent people because that's where good schools and good jobs tend to be. IF... this theory is true... it explains why Trump loves uneducated voters.

I still don't know. Pre-election I would have said Hillary.

Fair enough, thanks for your input. I still say the poll of Sanders beating Trump matters. Lets not forget he was the 2nd most disliked candidate at the time in the history of U.S. voting. Right behind Hillary Clinton.

[chico2663]

All I know is if they give him a pass...it will be BLUE WAVE. E BETTER PRAY BLOOMIE Doesn’t win because trump won’t have a chance.

[Optional]

Fair enough, thanks for your input. I still say the poll of Sanders beating Trump matters. Lets not forget he was the 2nd most disliked candidate at the time in the history of U.S. voting. Right behind Hillary Clinton.

Right after the election I thought any Dem but Hilary would have won come to think.

[KVB]

I'm suggesting, to pretend to know the unknowable shows a lack of insight in understanding anything.

But we are on a sportsbetting forum... people pretend to know unknowable things all day every day. This is why we see clowns on here with "Guaranteed lock" type picks. They're completely broke but they pretend to know more than the sharpest sportsbooks that are worth billions. Makes perfect sense.

The Dunning Kruger effect is always running rampant on SBR.

What I'm more referring to is the campaign itself and the predicitbilty to which it is effective. When it comes down to those analytics, bernie stood no chance.

No candidate stood a chance.

But you're right, we don't know. But to think it would even be a toss up ignores simply too much.

And as a gambler, yes, I understand more than most the effectiveness of the tools used.

It wasn't fair and Hillary was vulnerable. Shit, anyone is vulnerable with enough lies or "truth bends"

[JIBBBY]

Can't see Bernie getting enough widespread support to win.

Trump haters love him, but I think the average casual interest voter sees him as a bit extreme and not that bright.

I actually like Bernie, I think he's an honest guy for the most part.. Damn shame he's out of his mind with his far left policy that will never fly.

Democratic party really doesn't like Bernie as a whole, they will find a way to rail road him again like in 2016. I kinda feel sorry for the old fart to be honest..

If you think he has a chance here you go -

303 Bernie Sanders is Democratic Nominee

+250

105 B.Sanders wins Presidential Election

+500

[khicks26]

What I'm more referring to is the campaign itself and the predicitbilty to which it is effective. When it comes down to those analytics, bernie stood no chance.

No candidate stood a chance.

But you're right, we don't know. But to think it would even be a toss up ignores simply too much.

And as a gambler, yes, I understand more than most the effectiveness of the tools used.

It wasn't fair and Hillary was vulnerable. Shit, anyone is vulnerable with enough lies or "truth bends"

See, you want it both ways. Many said Trump had no chance against Hillary. Now your saying Bernie had no chance against Trump.


I think your bias is showing.

[JIBBBY]

I think the Joe Biden DEM NOM prop still has good value right now.. Get sum!! Bernie ain't gonna take him.. Unless Joey says something really stupid or TOTALLY BRAIN FARTS in the finals upcoming debates he is gonna take it..

Odds now..

301 Joe Biden is Democratic Nominee

+160

[chico2663]

Many people didn't vote. 1/2 the country. Some that did vote left the presidential spot blank. People hated both Trump & Hillary, Sanders would have given them something to vote for.


Just what would Trump say in a campaign with Sanders? Hell Trump stole half his agenda & ran to the left of Hillary.

I wrote in kasich

[chico2663]

I think Bloomberg wins dem. Bernie and Biden are like Edwards and Dean! 6 furlong horses in a mile race.

[darrell74]

I think Bloomberg wins dem. Bernie and Biden are like Edwards and Dean! 6 furlong horses in a mile race.

nice horse racing reference

[Brooklyn Dick]

Bloomberg is the only one that can beat Trump.

[jjgold]

Bloomberg is the only one that can beat Trump.

stop he is weak as a pussy

America would sink and be taken over

STOP MAN

[chico2663]

stop he is weak as a pussy

America would sink and be taken over

STOP MAN

Good thing you play a character to a tee on this site. Shame knowledge isn't one of the values your persona portrays.

[BOA12]

Right after the election I thought any Dem but Hilary would have won come to think.

Let's not forget MAGA started Day 1 of Obama"s Presidency. Somebody had to pay for the travesty of a Black President. In this case, it was Hillary. Trump maybe has a 5th grade vocabulary and a Masters in deception and bullshit, a true grifter. How the mainstream Republicans crucified the chosen one, or in this case the cloven one and ewe guys who follow blindly, was savage. Trump or any other jerk off They Chose is their to complete Phase III, steal the Justice System . Impeachment trial will be a good example of The New World Order in action. hope all 129,000,00 Voters from 2016 and new recruits, Republicans only fear, are watching closely. out don't out.
Great Universe, God and Mankind are the real jurors, not sold out "R" Cult Members.

[BOA12]

nice horse racing reference

Bloomberg going 21:50 43:40 109:30. Suicide fractions in a route. Money and speed to burn. Cabinet position in his future.

[BOA12]

I think Bloomberg wins dem. Bernie and Biden are like Edwards and Dean! 6 furlong horses in a mile race.

A successful business man, could run The USA. Why I don't like Trump, uses bankruptcies as his profit maker. Can't get a loan in The USA? Ridiculous! Trump a Quarter Horse among Thoroughbreds. Draft Dodger/Commander In Chief? Make up your mind donnie.