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  • shadymcgrady
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-27-12
    • 10036

    #36
    Originally posted by Darkside Magick
    I get all that.. At least bring back hand checking.. What so wrong with putting a hand on the body.. Anybody on every court anywhere hand check.. It's a staple of the game except in the NBA.

    Just think what Jordan would average in this era
    They got rid of hand checking bc of Bruce Bowen abusing the rules and loopholing the system. Specifically against Nash in the late 2000s. Phx was robbed of a title
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    • shocka1212
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-06-12
      • 16788

      #37
      I had pacers -7 back in December. this sabonis asshole missed like 4 free throws in the final 30 seconds to lose the bet. haven't touched a game since. its like getting some bad pussy. have to take a break and re evaluate what you're doing.
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      • sosawestbrook
        SBR MVP
        • 12-10-16
        • 3135

        #38
        Originally posted by Darkside Magick
        I get all that.. At least bring back hand checking.. What so wrong with putting a hand on the body.. Anybody on every court anywhere hand check.. It's a staple of the game except in the NBA.

        Just think what Jordan would average in this era
        Jordan would be the best in any era but I dont think he would be any BETTER specifically because of the rules. he took a lot of midrange jumpers. the best scorers in the game today shoot a ton of threes and get to the free throw line a lot. but thats just superfluous data. my point being that there is not one defender in the entire league that can shutdown Luka, Giannis, James, Trae young, etc. you can only bother them some but they are unguardable.
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        • sosawestbrook
          SBR MVP
          • 12-10-16
          • 3135

          #39
          Originally posted by shadymcgrady
          You've obviously never watched 80s or 90s bball. Were you even born yet junior?
          you could be right. thats not my era.
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          • sosawestbrook
            SBR MVP
            • 12-10-16
            • 3135

            #40
            I think the best strategy to employ for NBA betting would be to take advantage of the scheduling. Ive never bet an entire NBA season like I am doing now but I see no advantages in trying to break down matchups for a regular season game. anything can happen but there are certain instances where fatigue is an underrated X factor that oddsmakers have not taken into consideration.
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            • MrSink
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-30-08
              • 8087

              #41
              Originally posted by Darkside Magick
              Look I watch all the games... It's not the jacking of three's that concerning.. It is none of these teams play any defense at all.

              Yes the NBA change the rules with no hand checking and flow of offense. But James Harden should not have wide open lanes to the basket or Luka saying NBA is too easy to score than Europe.
              thats true. noone cares about defense. they are defending few possesions in crunch time
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              • Darkside Magick
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-28-10
                • 12638

                #42
                Originally posted by sosawestbrook
                I think the best strategy to employ for NBA betting would be to take advantage of the scheduling. Ive never bet an entire NBA season like I am doing now but I see no advantages in trying to break down matchups for a regular season game. anything can happen but there are certain instances where fatigue is an underrated X factor that oddsmakers have not taken into consideration.

                I think right now the best strategy is take a position on the game you like and hedge live betting
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                • Emily_Haines
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-14-09
                  • 15917

                  #43
                  I haven't looked in a while

                  Is morino still crushing the NBA?
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                  • IBetYou
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 07-03-15
                    • 8158

                    #44
                    Teams give good effort on defense they just have too much working against them...

                    You see players defending with their hands behind their back as if handcuffed so that the scorer doesn't get the rip-through move -imagine trying to defend a quality scorer and stay on balance with you arms that way. Ridiculous.

                    Then there's the contest of 3pt shots -the NBA effectively tells players don't bother. If you leave your feet it's going to be 3 FTs and the colour commentator and every American in his living room will be calling said player an idiot ...so they have to just jog out there with the hands up like dick.
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                    • sosawestbrook
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-10-16
                      • 3135

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                      I think right now the best strategy is take a position on the game you like and hedge live betting
                      if the strategy behind the bet is strong enough it shouldn't require hedging. just taking note so far on this season I would say the best strategies to employ (or at least what I have been employing; Im up 7u so far) is 1: taking advantage of scheduling 2: riding teams that play harder because they lost a star player 3: statement games
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                      • Darkside Magick
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-28-10
                        • 12638

                        #46
                        Originally posted by IBetYou
                        Teams give good effort on defense they just have too much working against them...

                        You see players defending with their hands behind their back as if handcuffed so that the scorer doesn't get the rip-through move -imagine trying to defend a quality scorer and stay on balance with you arms that way. Ridiculous.

                        Then there's the contest of 3pt shots -the NBA effectively tells players don't bother. If you leave your feet it's going to be 3 FTs and the colour commentator and every American in his living room will be calling said player an idiot ...so they have to just jog out there with the hands up like dick.
                        Great observation

                        Shooters have free looks at the basket.. The defender can't leave his freaking feet... I know Lawhi got hurt hurt and they changed the rules but this is getting out of hand
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                        • Darkside Magick
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-28-10
                          • 12638

                          #47
                          Originally posted by sosawestbrook
                          if the strategy behind the bet is strong enough it shouldn't require hedging. just taking note so far on this season I would say the best strategies to employ (or at least what I have been employing; Im up 7u so far) is 1: taking advantage of scheduling 2: riding teams that play harder because they lost a star player 3: statement games
                          What I meant was in a just in case scenario.. Yes the bet you make shouldn't require hedging
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #48
                            I bet a few games here and there per week but as you know everybody loses

                            Bet every day and you get destroyed But we all bet to lose
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                            • shocka1212
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-06-12
                              • 16788

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                              I think right now the best strategy is take a position on the game you like and hedge live betting
                              did this last year and made a ton. NBA lines so rigged and sharp. honestly haven't had the time with the way works been going lately (also a blessing)
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                              • IBetYou
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 07-03-15
                                • 8158

                                #50
                                Betting IP sounds like a wonderful idea after a night like last night, but then you prepare to do it the next night and every frontrunner leads start to finish

                                Good idea in principal though, just a bit harder to stay disciplined since if you're sat in front of a screen for hours you're going to want action.
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                                • MrSink
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 12-30-08
                                  • 8087

                                  #51
                                  Teams give good effort on defense they just have too much working against them...
                                  I disagree. Every single team , every night you can see many spots when they clearly walking down the court , poor rotation , poor transition defense , no box out at all , just jumping for the ball , poor defense at pick and roll , just switch or going under without any pressure . Man this has nothing to do with good defense .

                                  Schedule is too packed for them to play defense .
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                                  • MrSink
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-30-08
                                    • 8087

                                    #52
                                    no ball pressure at all . it is hard to play 30 mins with active defense and being key option in the ofense for the player
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                                    • pologq
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-07-12
                                      • 19899

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                      Almost pull trigger on Knicks +11 yesterday on that same line of thinking.. If you don't have a real concrete idea on a game. I would not play at all
                                      i stayed away cause i was afraid the lakers would play down to the competition. of course they end up blowing them out.
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                                      • IBetYou
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-03-15
                                        • 8158

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by MrSink
                                        I disagree. Every single team , every night you can see many spots when they clearly walking down the court , poor rotation , poor transition defense , no box out at all , just jumping for the ball , poor defense at pick and roll , just switch or going under without any pressure . Man this has nothing to do with good defense .

                                        Schedule is too packed for them to play defense .
                                        A lot of that just comes back to difficulty in defending the 3pt line with the given rules. So switching & going under are popular tactics to prevent an open 3pt shot that you can't properly contest.
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                                        • paco
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-07-09
                                          • 62873

                                          #55
                                          Just blind bet overs in nba. U would hit 75%
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                                          • shadymcgrady
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-27-12
                                            • 10036

                                            #56
                                            I guess no one here has kids that may play D1 or any collegiate ball or have not gone through the landscape themselves.

                                            The piss poor defense and lack of solid fundamentals in players today is strictly a by product of AAU. They have molded and produced the next generation of NBA players for decades now.

                                            The NBA also has moved away from defense and penalizes elite defenders while heaping more rewards onto offensive players. It's a double edged blade
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                                            • lakerboy
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-02-09
                                              • 94379

                                              #57
                                              So no one is Betting it i guess
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #58
                                                -110 odds daily it statically impossible to beat without monthly bonuses, rebates, ect
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                                                • MrSink
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 12-30-08
                                                  • 8087

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by IBetYou
                                                  A lot of that just comes back to difficulty in defending the 3pt line with the given rules. So switching & going under are popular tactics to prevent an open 3pt shot that you can't properly contest.
                                                  how you can prevent wide open 3 by going under the screen ? I do not get that man .

                                                  How you can prevent wide open 3 by switching without any pressure that 2nd defender waiting below the screen for ofensive player ?


                                                  There is another solution to not faul 3 pt shooter. Just do not jump to every single shot fake or shot , close out with hand up without jumping into defender .

                                                  Barely anyone is giving some efforts in defense. Others do not care .
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                                                  • MrSink
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 12-30-08
                                                    • 8087

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    -110 odds daily it statically impossible to beat without monthly bonuses, rebates, ect
                                                    sites offering alternative spreads
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                                                    • asiagambler
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 07-23-17
                                                      • 6827

                                                      #61
                                                      Bulls give lots of effort on defense. Very aggressive
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                                                      • IBetYou
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 07-03-15
                                                        • 8158

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by MrSink
                                                        how you can prevent wide open 3 by going under the screen ? I do not get that man .

                                                        How you can prevent wide open 3 by switching without any pressure that 2nd defender waiting below the screen for ofensive player ?


                                                        There is another solution to not faul 3 pt shooter. Just do not jump to every single shot fake or shot , close out with hand up without jumping into defender .

                                                        Barely anyone is giving some efforts in defense. Others do not care .
                                                        1. Well of course you go under on players that can't shoot
                                                        2. Teams don't give up threes to the ball handler on a switch
                                                        3. If players didn't jump to contest shots the game would be a bit more enjoyable but shooting percentages would sky rocket. If running out with the hand up was enough then all coaches would drill it into their guys to stay down.
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                                                        • lakerboy
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 04-02-09
                                                          • 94379

                                                          #63
                                                          Guys post plays.
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                                                          • Easy-Rider 66
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 02-14-12
                                                            • 36386

                                                            #64
                                                            Like to play stats not teams. Maybe a point bet or 2 here or there. But the daily grind for real coins spread wise. Those days are done here.
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                                                            • leetreaper
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 10-23-10
                                                              • 34841

                                                              #65
                                                              amateur hour
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                                                              • Darkside Magick
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 05-28-10
                                                                • 12638

                                                                #66
                                                                Orlando Magic -11.5 +127 vs Washington Wizards
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #67
                                                                  NBA comes down the shooting percentages every night

                                                                  Track it and make decisions
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                                    • 83686

                                                                    #68
                                                                    I love betting the NBA. Props especially. I do just fine every year.

                                                                    You boys just don't know how to cap and bet the NBA day to day, gotta see those trends, see what teams are hot and not, injuries impacting team play, what teams are coming off an embarrassing loss and then playing back at home after rest.

                                                                    For player props and O/U's it's all about whats trending lately.. What teams are hot and cold, what players are hot and cold.. Player match ups and some play better on the road or at home..

                                                                    GOTTA DO YOUR CAPPING HOMEWORK!


                                                                    NFL is a different story for me, I usually lose money every year betting that crap!!!.. ..
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                                                                    • krk1030
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 08-13-08
                                                                      • 17610

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Too hard to keep track of who is even playing or how good the replacements are. Way too many injuries.
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                                                                      • paco
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 05-07-09
                                                                        • 62873

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by paco
                                                                        Just blind bet overs in nba. U would hit 75%
                                                                        And another day looks like 80% over easy
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